Scott Roeder who murdered the Kansas physician who performed late term abortions is every bit as much a terrorist as anyone who flew into the twin towers on 9/11. So is his mouthpiece Bll O'Reilly. As long as Gitmo is open, I say we send them down there, waterboard them and find out who their other allies are.

After I heard about this assassination, my immediate thought was: Did this assassin realize he was making a martyr that will hurt his cause badly in public?

I mean an assassination in the church lobby of a mainstream protestatnt sect....didn't that killer realize one of his bullets could have harmed or killed one of the by-standers?

Anyway, that assassin wrote on the ultra-pro life website for Operation Rescue:

Bless everyone for attending and praying to bring justice to Tiller and the closing of his death camp.

Sometime soon, would it be feasible to organize as many people as possible to attend Tillers church (inside, not just outside) to have much more of a presence and possibly ask questions of the Pastor, Deacons, Elders and members while there? Doesn’t seem like it would hurt anything but bring more attention to Tiller.

and

It seems as though what is happening in Kansas could be compared to the “lawlessness” which is spoken of in the Bible. Tiller is the concentration camp “Mengele” of our day and needs to be stopped before he and those who protect him bring judgement upon our nation.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/arti...eration_Rescue

Of course the same Operation Rescue that wrote this about the slain abortionist: "You may be the difference between life and death for a child." Real vigilante-friendly language, isn't it?"

As for O'Reilly, I always thought of him as a blowhard idiot, like every other TV news pundit, then I read this from a 2007 episode of his about Tiller:

""Yes, I think we all know what this is. And if the state of Kansas doesn't stop this man, then anybody who prevents that from happening has blood on their hands as the governor does right now, Governor Sebelius.""

and variations on 27 other episodes. Can't wait for his response tonight.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/05/31/tiller/index.html

Again...they are TERRORISTS and should be treated as such.

bill o' reilly is a fucking prick...and as much as i dont stand for the late term abortion (unless it is necessary)killing a man in church who is doing something that is legal deserves nothing, but hate. i espically hate those fucking idiots who speak of the doctor like he is satan...the man was killed in church for fucking god sakes.

I pretty much stopped listening to O'Reilly after he made his comment that kidnapped teen Shaun Horbeck may have enjoyed his experience, in part, because he didn't have to go to school and when he allowed the inference that he had been in the US military because he had covered a battle in Columbia as a reporter.

Ed Shultz replayed a collage of O'Reilly's comments about Tiller. They are inflammatory. Of course, since the 1st amendment only constrains government infringement of speech, I wouldn't mind popping O'Reilly for some of his comments and paying the statutory price. Nevertheless, it's important to "hold your enemies closer." So, listen to him at least once in awhile.

i wonder why nobody has ever popped him in the face?

Tiller killed 60,000 babies. 60,000! Do a search of late term abortion pictures to get a sense of his handiwork. The outrage over his murder but the acceptance of the murder of 60,000 people disgusts me. But he was just doing his job, right?

Murder in this country is defined by federal or state statute and not by individual subjectiveness.

Whatever you want to call it, Tiller killed 60,000 human beings. Think about how many that is.

How can one be "pro-life", yet advocate murder? It is YOUR opinion that they were human beings. It is YOUR opinion that it was murder.

According to the law, this doctor did nothing wrong, and this shooter is a killer. If you disagree with the current laws, then work through the LEGAL system to get them changed. Elect representatives that will do so. Get petitions signed; march on Washington. Hold a vigil.

I don't like the lack of gun control, and think it's advocating murder how ridiculously easy it is to buy a gun at a gun show. Should I show up at one with guns blazing??? Should I kill the president of the NRA?

How is it an opinion that they were human beings? What were they then? Cows? Fish? Chickens? Do a google image search of "late term abortion" tell me what those "things" look like.

I'm not advocating his murder, but I think it's hypocritical to be outraged at his single death and just ignore that fact that he had been responsible for 60,000 deaths.

And have you ever noticed how all the people who are pro-abortion have already been born?

There is a difference between "pro-choice" and "pro-abortion". And, by the way, it's not hypocritical to advocate vigilantism while claiming to be pro-life??

What exactly is that difference? It seems like the same exact thing to me. But fine, "Have you ever noticed how all the people who are pro-choice have already been born?

And what are your thoughts on those late term abortion pictures?

It's not my fight. I'm pro-choice. And the difference is that while I may not consider abortion a choice for me PERSONALLY, but I believe that it is a choice that is not mine to dictate.

And Roe v. Wade is not the point. The point is that the law is the law. Dr. Tiller didn't break the law. The crazed gunman did.

freddie by reports he only did the late term if the woman's health is in danger...so really that is one reason of why they have them...and that should be the only reason why they should have late term. regular abortion should just be used for rape victims.

It wouldn't matter if he performed them because the woman's health was in danger or not. While I don't agree with late-term abortions personally, it's not my choice to dictate. Dr. Tiller broke no laws. He performed a legal medical procedure. And was slaughtered, in God's house no less.

As for rape victims, who are you to say? Do you know how many rapes go unreported? How many are date rape? How many are a case of "he said, she said"? Do you know how difficult it can be to prove rape?? And yet, you are asking a rape victim to survive a humiliating, degrading and violent act and then have to PROVE it before she's allowed to make a choice about whether she wants to carry this animal's child??????? What if the rapist decides that he always wanted a kid, the burden of proof hasn't been met, and, using his parental rights, he forces her to have it? What then? No rape victim should have to survive only to be forced to go hat in hand to some judge or jury to beg.

I don't believe there is any woman alive who says to herself, "I think I'll go get pregnant and then have an abortion just for the hell of it." The choice is a hard ne and should be left to the woman. Period. It is not murder as the crazies say.

And as for the righties who are excusing Bill O'Reilly, I am unsure how they can claim (as he does) that rap music is responsible for violence, but that hi rantings are not.

Again Freddie, federal and state statutes define murder.

But Babe, I'm surprised at you: "she wants to carry this animal's child???????" It's her child too and she had it killed because she (and you) devalued its life. She (and you) decided that a child's life is not as valuable as your life. What devalues a human life Babe? What makes a child's life less valuable than any other life? You try to balance (as if you could) someone's emotions against a human life. How stupid!

I've seen better FX. Like IT'S ALIVE that was pretty awesome.



Then why defend the murder? Unless of course you dont mind people getting murdered in a church lobby. Do you?



And why is it that most pro-lifers are men?

With your knee-jerk logic, you should be anti-Death Penalty.

Thankfully I am pro-choice and pro-Death Penalty, so I am Pro-Death.

Scott Roeder: "Tough Luck Lady!"

Hey, olivant, you bend over for some stranger and then tell me how much you would want to bring his child into this world. Oh, that's right, you never have to make that decision, because you're a MAN.

I'm not saying I would abort a child conceived in such a way. I'm not saying I wouldn't. I'm saying that it's a woman's CHOICE. It's up to HER. She's been violated ENOUGH. To say that she has to prove that she's been raped before she can make that choice is beyond cruel.

That's what I was responding to, if you go back and reread my post. What I said was, "...you are asking a rape victim to survive a humiliating, degrading and violent act and then have to PROVE it before she's allowed to make a choice..."

Pro-Lifers like Freddie C. assume Pro-Choice folks like killing babies or something. Maybe that's what FC and DoubleJ talk about when they get together, how those feminists love to abort for kicks on their free weekends or some shit like that.

Then again, if you think about it, Pro-Life as such folks propogate, is anti-religion.

Religion in itself, specifically Christianity, is about your choice to follow the teachings and gospels of Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, or you cast your lot with the Devil and the armies of Hell. You choose the glory of Heaven, and you get to go there and be graced and so forth.

But if you're forced to worship "God"...then how legitimate and honest is your spirituality and faith?

Prove what Babe and prove it to achieve what? A choice? A rationale to destroy a child for your own convenience? You're humiliated, so it's okay for you to arrange to kill a child. So, I still ask you: what devalues a human life?

Or not.

Although I'm amused I'm still being brought up in these discussions. I guess it's true - old soldiers never die.

beer gut?

He doesn't count. He used to be a she.

Has the fetus murdered anyone?

Men should have a say, it's the woman's body but it's also the man (and woman)'s child.

They could murder their mother. Many of these late term abortions are because of this problem.

If a woman doesn't want to carry a fetus, she shouldn't and she wouldn't.

This is ridiculous. A zygote is not a child.