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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: MaryCas] #538004
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now just asking here was their ever a president who wasn't christian or catholic?

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: BAM_233] #538008
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I know JFK was the only Catholic President(and that was a big deal at the time). rolleyes While I can't say for sure, I do believe every other President was of a Christian faith. Do you guys think it should matter?



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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #538009
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
I know JFK was the only Catholic President(and that was a big deal at the time). rolleyes While I can't say for sure, I do believe every other President was of a Christian faith.


Abraham Lincoln was Jewish.

(He was shot in the temple).


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: SC] #538015
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Originally Posted By: SC
Calm down, TIS Horshak. We all know it's "W".



I don't know about that SC. The Peanut Farmer may have the honor of actually being the dumbest that we ever had. No question that he was a good man who probably had good intentions....but he was as dumb as they come! Lest we forget that he "had a discussion with his daughter Amy..."

eek whistle lol



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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: Don Cardi] #538017
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I'm sensing this thread title has a racial tingement to it. If you don't know what I mean, and its clear as day what I mean't, then you better read up on the whole slavery thing.

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: Luchese] #538018
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Originally Posted By: Luchese
I'm sensing this thread title has a racial tingement to it. If you don't know what I mean, and its clear as day what I mean't, then you better read up on the whole slavery thing.


I'm sensing that you're just trying to stir up the shit with your post. I don't see any racial issues in the title or in the thread and I suggest you keep the crap over on your side of the pond.


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: SC] #538021
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Sorry, I just saw the parallels with Lincoln and Obama as being total opposites. I guess the right to opinion has died and yes, I did vote for Obama so I can't be against him.

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: Luchese] #538022
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You voted for Obama? I didn't know they let Brits vote in the U.S. elections.


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: SC] #538024
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Originally Posted By: Luchese
I did vote for Obama so I can't be against him.

Originally Posted By: SC
I didn't know they let Brits vote in the U.S. elections.



You didn't know that SC? Brit citizens were always allowed to vote in U.S. elections. I believe that it was a deal that was made at the conclusion of the Revolutionary war.

They now even allow Aussies citizens, South African citizens, Italian citizens, and Middle Eastern citizens to vote in US elections!



Thousands of non-citizens, especially Brits, are registered to vote in some states, and tens if not hundreds of thousands in total may be present on the voter rolls nationwide. These numbers are significant: Local elections are often decided by only a handful of votes, and now even INTERnational USA elections are being held. There is now legislation being introduced which would allow citizens of Iraq to vote in U.S. Elections!




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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #538036
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
I know JFK was the only Catholic President(and that was a big deal at the time). rolleyes While I can't say for sure, I do believe every other President was of a Christian faith. Do you guys think it should matter?



TIS



i believe not since religion shouldnt even be in politics...the only reason it should do if that person worships the devil.

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: BAM_233] #538040
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Originally Posted By: BAM_233
i believe not since religion shouldnt even be in politics...the only reason it should do if that person worships the devil.



And I believe that Pitchers shouldn't play 1st base and that the Mets got Sheff so that he could hit a game tying HR!


rolleyes



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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #538059
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
I know JFK was the only Catholic President(and that was a big deal at the time). rolleyes While I can't say for sure, I do believe every other President was of a Christian faith. Do you guys think it should matter?



TIS



Considering how they all do some bastardly things, no I dont think it matters that much of a difference in the morality department.

To put it another way, Clinton the Baptist regularly went to church while President.

Just saying...

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #538095
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
I know JFK was the only Catholic President(and that was a big deal at the time). rolleyes While I can't say for sure, I do believe every other President was of a Christian faith. Do you guys think it should matter?



TIS



There is actually doubt about whether Lincoln was a Christian. He frequently attended Presbyterian services with his family. He also was fond of the Bible, but there is debate as to whether he believed in the divinity of Christ. There is virtually no doubt that he believed in God though.

There were several 19th century presidents that were nondenominational. Obama is the first president without a particular religious affiliation since Rutherford B. Hayes. I wonder if Hayes had a Rev. Wright he had to run from?

The most common religious affiliation among US presidents belongs to the Episcopalians, the last of whom was George H.W. Bush.

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: klydon1] #538096
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Doesn't matter what a man's religion is, mind you, but my no is final, and I know you'll be successful in your new venture so long as your interests don't conflict with mine.


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