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(PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family #521203
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Hey guys ,, heres a pic I made for the RATS of the Sopranos family : Adriana LaCerva, Raymond Curto, Carlo Gervasi, Jimmy ALtieri ,Eugene Pontecorvo
& Big Pussy Bonpensiero !

ENJOY wink



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Add carlo. He took tony down in the end.

Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: rearwheelslider] #521219
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Originally Posted By: rearwheelslider
Add carlo. He took tony down in the end.



Um,,, hes up there whistle


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Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Don Dallal] #521228
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Hhaha ok. Sorry.

Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: rearwheelslider] #521510
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Jimmy wasn't a rat.

Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Lompac] #521630
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Originally Posted By: Lompac
Jimmy wasn't a rat.


You must not have seen the first season.

Add Gene Ponecorvo




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Longneck] #521640
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thanx for remindin me about Eugine ..and now i added him

but as for jimmy ive seen season one and he is a rat !

Tony grew suspicious of Jimmy shortly after he was busted. He thought he was released a little too promptly after his arrest. Also, Jimmy began asking Tony, among others, for repeated details of their criminal dealings. Although it was never officially confirmed that Jimmy was a "rat" on the show, his odd behavior was enough for Tony and others to think he was wearing a wire. As such, Uncle Junior sanctioned a hit on Jimmy and said he wanted a message to be sent. Christopher lured Jimmy to a hotel room with a beautiful Russian girl as bait. Once Jimmy was seated in the room, Silvio came in and put a gun to the back of his head. Jimmy realized what was about to happen and went for a gun in his ankle holster but was too late. Christopher and Silvio taunt him by saying he should call for help down his microphone (a wire) - at which point Silvio shot him in the back of his head. Given that he didn't deny being a rat when he was at gun point, it is likely that Jimmy was an informant. As for the message, Jimmy's body was found in an alley with a rat stuffed in his mouth. Christopher even went so far as to call in a bomb threat to Jimmy's wake, to which Dante replied, "See now, that's over the top."


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Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Don Dallal] #521685
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I've seen Season one 5 times!!

Jimmy and Pussy were mixed up by corrupt cop, Vic Makazian. Tony desperately wanted Jimmy to be the rat and not Pussy, as Tony and Pussy were best friends. As for the hotel secene and Silvio saying, "You should call for help down your microphone", Jimmy said, "Oh god" when Silvio put the gun to his head. This isn't a reference to being a rat, this is Jimmys way of saying, "I'm a goner". Jimmy knew that his "friends" had thought that he was a rat and Jimmy went for his gun because he thought that he might have had a chance to kill either Chrissy or Silvio, or both.

After Jimmy was found in the alley, Skip said to Pussy, "Jimmy Altieri ate a bullet for you". This mean't that Jimmy wasn't a rat.

Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Lompac] #521753
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Originally Posted By: Lompac
I've seen Season one 5 times!!

Jimmy and Pussy were mixed up by corrupt cop, Vic Makazian. Tony desperately wanted Jimmy to be the rat and not Pussy, as Tony and Pussy were best friends. As for the hotel secene and Silvio saying, "You should call for help down your microphone", Jimmy said, "Oh god" when Silvio put the gun to his head. This isn't a reference to being a rat, this is Jimmys way of saying, "I'm a goner". Jimmy knew that his "friends" had thought that he was a rat and Jimmy went for his gun because he thought that he might have had a chance to kill either Chrissy or Silvio, or both.

After Jimmy was found in the alley, Skip said to Pussy, "Jimmy Altieri ate a bullet for you". This mean't that Jimmy wasn't a rat.


Watch what Jimmy does when he gets out of jail talking with Tony asking him about the Columbians and the money, then Brenden Filone Hit with Junior, read his body language when he is talking about these things. The actor did a great job of it. Altieri and Pussy were both rats. "He didn't have time to put on anything decent."

Not to mention as Tony said in the first conversation after Jimmy was released how he got out so soon when he was already on parole or something similar.

He was a rat, and it's obvious.




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And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Longneck] #521823
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Originally Posted By: Longneck

He was a rat, and it's obvious.



Yup .. Thank You Longneck


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Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Don Dallal] #527182
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he had a rat in his mouth when they found the body what more proof you need lol


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Hey, I could get killed and a rat put in my mouth. But I'm not a rat.

The rats only there because he was a informer.

What about all the other informers who disappear, they don't have rats in their mouths.

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Rats/Informer is the same thing..

The rat would have been put there as a warning to other members,that that is what they do to you if you inform on them.


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Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: DE NIRO] #527259
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Rats is a tough guy euphmism for government witness.

They don't want to say to their wiseguy chums, "Jimmy was a government witness", they wanna say, "Jimmy was a rat". Makes them feel hard that they got the stool pigeon or yellow canary - there ya go, 2 more for your list!

Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Lompac] #527291
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Jack Massarone was also a rat; as relevant as Adriana, too.


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And Jack Massarone has his hat in his mouth.

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That's because he's a hat, not a rat.

(Seriously, though, that was because the wire was found in his cap.)


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So by being an informer, the rat symbolises the law - FBI?

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I've just remembered that in "Remember When", Tony and Paulie go on vacation because Larry Barese is finally singing to the law.


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Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #527590
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Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
I've just remembered that in "Remember When", Tony and Paulie go on vacation because Larry Barese is finally singing to the law.


But he ended up giving false information.




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Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Longneck] #528400
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"Rat" and "informer" IS the same thing. A person can be a rat and not necessarily end up being a government witness, although it usually leads to that. You have to be an informer before you can be a witness after the RICO charges go down...

I wouldn't call Larry a rat. He may have thought about turning on Tony and the crew but he didn't. He gave false information to score himself points and still protect his pals at the same time.

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christopher was a rat too. see my thread on this

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put christopher on there too!

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Originally Posted By: jimithicke
put christopher on there too!


dude you are talking with the wrong guy ... look at my pic he's my favourite character i saw your thread clever thinking but no way Moltisanti was a rat..

i wouldn't put him up there unless it was stated that he was a rat or actualy seen with an FBI agent..

ciao! and a salut !


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theres a better chance chrissy was a rat then jimmy imo

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Chrissy wasn't a rat. That would have been too big a storyline not to use since Chris has more inside info on Tony than anyone else did

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Originally Posted By: jimithicke
christopher was a rat too. see my thread on this


Get over it man. You think you are the first one who came up with the brilliant hypothesis that Chris was a rat? Well you aren't and most agree Chris was not a rat.

I could start my own thread to saying Paulie was a rat and come up with all kinds of reasons why I believe this. Doesn't make it true though.

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Originally Posted By: Mussolini14
Originally Posted By: jimithicke
christopher was a rat too. see my thread on this


Get over it man. You think you are the first one who came up with the brilliant hypothesis that Chris was a rat? Well you aren't and most agree Chris was not a rat.

I could start my own thread to saying Paulie was a rat and come up with all kinds of reasons why I believe this. Doesn't make it true though.


what about the cat stalking chris non stop? thats gotta mean something right?

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jimmy was not a rat as lompac was saying it was pussy the dirty cop got the two mixed up. He was telling tony what the feds were telling him. The way they did the scene made it seem like jimmy was trying to get tony to say something incriminating but in reality he was telling tony he has a snitch in his crew and telling him what the feds were building on tony. That is all tony needed to wack jimmy. The columbian rip off didnt involve jimmy pussy and paulie were in on that. There is no way jimmy was a rat they (tony&jr)knew they had one but jumped the gun.

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Originally Posted By: matty_mateo13
jimmy was not a rat as lompac was saying it was pussy the dirty cop got the two mixed up. He was telling tony what the feds were telling him. The way they did the scene made it seem like jimmy was trying to get tony to say something incriminating but in reality he was telling tony he has a snitch in his crew and telling him what the feds were building on tony. That is all tony needed to wack jimmy. The columbian rip off didnt involve jimmy pussy and paulie were in on that. There is no way jimmy was a rat they (tony&jr)knew they had one but jumped the gun.

I agree

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I think Jimmy was a rat. When Silvio and Chris had him at gunpoint where they taunt him by saying he should call for help on his microphone(wire), Jimmy never denied it so it is likely that he was an informant. When Jimmy is about to be executed, his reaction is more "Oh no!". I figured if he wasn't a rat, he'd be denying it. Given that he said "Mother of God", and "Oh my God" under his breath in a serious way and didn't deny being a rat when he was at gunpoint, it likely was true that Jimmy was an informant.

Plus the other reasons to support my suspicion include the questions Jimmy was asking Tony about the Colombian heist in the basement after his release, his quick release from jail on bail after being busted when the FBI finds a pool table full of guns and Jimmy had other charges already against him as Tony alludes to, the meeting with the admin/capos where it is apparent to everyone else Jimmy is acting odd, and when Jimmy was trying to get Junior to talk about the Brendon hit is another tipoff.

But this is one of those David Chase things we will never know as it has never been explicitly revealed whether Jimmy was a rat or not.

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This thread is a joke it was just a TV Show lol


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i actually felt bad for most of them,pussy,gene,carlo,even adriana seeing as how the feds conned her into flipping more anything. any body whos been schooled would have known some petty shit like a few os of blow and the thing with the murder,she wouldnt have been looking at thirty years or whatever the feds say.plus in jersey you are eligible for parole after like one fifth of your sentence.i think,worst case scenario shes out in two years...but if she had any brains the story wouldnot have been as entertaining.lol.

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But wasn't Adriana accessory to murder at her club, this is what the feds had on her..


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What about Larry Boy Barese?


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Originally Posted By: vinnietoothpicks26
What about Larry Boy Barese?

Larry Barese was picked up by the feds and was forced to sing about the murder of Willie Overall. Instead of saying it was Tony, he blamed it on Jackie Aprile Sr. who was already dead. Because Larry gave false info to the agents, he was not killed.

Anyway, add Febby Petrulio.

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Forced? What does that even mean? He talked to the fed about a murder. That means he is a rat.


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Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Don Dallal] #706723
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It means he had no other choice in his opinion. I agree with your point and if this was a real life matter, it would be very unlikely that he would be left off the hook. He would have been killed for sure. I'll write what I wrote above again: He could have told the truth and been put into the Witness Protection Program very easily but Larry was dedicated to the mob so he chose to instead say it was someone else who whacked Overall. He straight up lied to the government. I suggest you actually watch The Sopranos though, that way you can see the relationship between Tony and Larry.

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Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: Don Dallal] #706747
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"I suggest you actually watch The Sopranos though, that way you can see the relationship between Tony and Larry."
I am not gonna get into an argument with anyone on this board, becasue it is a waist of time. That being said, I have seen every episode of the sopranos 2 or three times. I know very well the episode with willie overall, it was just on HBO on monday. There are different degrees of rats, I suppose it goes from allocution all the way to full blown WITSEC sammy the bull style. That being said, I think that Larry was a rat, if he talked to the feds about the murder, he did for leniency. It is a slippery slope.


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LCN1987 can seriously give the answer. He's generally spot on when it comes to The Soprano's!

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Re: (PIC) of the RATS!!! of the Sopranos family [Re: vinnietoothpicks26] #706894
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Originally Posted By: vinnietoothpicks26
"I suggest you actually watch The Sopranos though, that way you can see the relationship between Tony and Larry."
I am not gonna get into an argument with anyone on this board, becasue it is a waist of time. That being said, I have seen every episode of the sopranos 2 or three times. I know very well the episode with willie overall, it was just on HBO on monday. There are different degrees of rats, I suppose it goes from allocution all the way to full blown WITSEC sammy the bull style. That being said, I think that Larry was a rat, if he talked to the feds about the murder, he did for leniency. It is a slippery slope.

I appreciate your opinion.

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