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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #518629
11/03/08 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Sarah Palin getting Prank Called




I heard this one on the radio earlier today. The commedian who did it was good. I think there were enough warning signs that Palin should have gotten the hint earlier.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: klydon1] #518630
11/03/08 11:12 AM
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As a follow up, I just heard that there have been postings falsely claiming that anyone with a criminal record will be subject to police interrogation. Also, there have been phone calls to new voters saying they can save time and vote over the phone Press 1 for Obama and 2 for McCain, and my personal favorite, "Please be advised that due to the large number of voters, Republicans will vote on Tuesday and Democrats on Wednesday."

Karl Rove would be proud.

Of course, some Democrats have pulled their share of fraud too. But they now update the obituaries to the voter logs, making it hard for the dead to vote anymore.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: klydon1] #518633
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Nostradamus has apperantly predicted a victory for McCain/Palin, according to some historian from the following quatrain:

At the war's end:
The Feeble Kept One will strike down the Night
And his Imbecile Queen will rise from the snow
Bedecked in finery and the pelt of a wolf.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: klydon1] #518640
11/03/08 01:04 PM
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I like the tuesday/wednesday one.

And again, most importantly, vote for McCain. Who doesn't want to see Palin on TV for the next four years? (The question was directed towards the men wink )

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: svsg] #518641
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SVSG

I know that I am in the minority, but I don't think Palin is "all that." Compared to other female politicans, she's attractive, but she's not "hot" or even "beautiful" IMO. I personally think McCain's wife is much better looking than Palin. And McCain's wife is a good decade older than Palin. One thing that ruins it for me about Palin is that voice. It is like nails on a chalkboard for me. That's not even considering what comes out of it, which I fundamentally disagree with anyway.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: goombah] #518643
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Yeah, it is all subjective. But there is no question, she is hotter than Biden lol

Anyway, though Cindy looks(and is) a bit old, she is pretty good looking still.


Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: goombah] #518645
11/03/08 01:43 PM
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On a pressing issue....Baggy Pants:

"I think people passing a law against people wearing sagging pants is a waste of time. We should be focused on creating jobs, improving our schools, health care, dealing with the war in Iraq, and anybody, any public official, that is worrying about sagging pants probably needs to spend some time focusing on real problems out there. Having said that, brothers should pull up their pants. You are walking by your mother, your grandmother, your underwear is showing. What's wrong with that? Come on. There are some issues that we face, that you don't have to pass a law, but that doesn't mean folks can't have some sense and some respect for other people and, you know, some people might not want to see your underwear — I'm one of them." - Obama

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #518651
11/03/08 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
The bars are closed?? I don't think we do that in NY, although I never tried to buy a drink after voting.

Klyd, I just read in the paper this morning that there have been misleading flyers dropped on people's doorsteps in the middle of the night. In poorer neighborhoods, they threaten arrest if you try to vote and have unpaid parking tickets or taxes. In predominantly Jewish neighborhoods, there have been flyers that claim Obama's leanings towards Palestine and then warn Jewish voters not to be fooled like they were in the 1930s. And there was also one claiming that because of the expected voter turnout, Republicans are to vote on Tuesday and Democrats on Wednesday!


Sorry that I repeated your post. I didn't see it earlier. blush

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: klydon1] #518654
11/03/08 02:29 PM
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I can't take it anymore!

Thank God it's over tomorrow. The political season should be no longer than a sports season; that's all the excitement I can take. lol


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: svsg] #518655
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Originally Posted By: svsg
I like the tuesday/wednesday one.

And again, most importantly, vote for McCain. Who doesn't want to see Palin on TV for the next four years? (The question was directed towards the men wink )


Hey, are you an alien who ate svsg? What did you do with him? Talk! Talk!



"Fire cannot kill a dragon." -Daenerys Targaryen, Game of Thrones
Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: goombah] #518656
11/03/08 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: goombah
SVSG

I know that I am in the minority, but I don't think Palin is "all that." Compared to other female politicans, she's attractive, but she's not "hot" or even "beautiful" IMO. I personally think McCain's wife is much better looking than Palin. And McCain's wife is a good decade older than Palin. One thing that ruins it for me about Palin is that voice. It is like nails on a chalkboard for me. That's not even considering what comes out of it, which I fundamentally disagree with anyway.



I have to go with Sarah over Cindy. It's like picking Mary Ann over Ginger (which I also go with). I agree she's not glamorous, but she is a wholesome-looking, pretty lady with a nice natural smile. While I'm voting for Obama and like Biden, I always get a strange feeling when Biden's smiling, he's trying to sell me life insurance.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: klydon1] #518658
11/03/08 02:42 PM
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Boy, is that ever true, Klyd!! Get that man a new set of dentures!

Cindy has about 10 years on Governor Palin if I did the math right (I'm pretty sure that Cindy is in her mid 50s). She is a beautiful woman.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #518663
11/03/08 03:27 PM
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Here they are. The final polls. We'll find out tomorrow if they're correct. The one poll that stands out is the Minnesota poll. All the other polls last week have Obama up +11 to +19 in Minnesota. This poll released today says Obama +3.

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Florida 	Reuters/Zogby	Obama 48, McCain 46	Obama +2
Florida  	PPP (D)	        Obama 50, McCain 48	Obama +2
Florida	        Quinnipiac	Obama 47, McCain 45	Obama +2
Georgia  	PPP (D) 	McCain 50, Obama 48	McCain +2
Georgia 	SurveyUSA	McCain 52, Obama 45	McCain +7
Indiana	        Reuters/Zogby	McCain 49, Obama 44	McCain +5
Minnesota	SurveyUSA	Obama 49, McCain 46	Obama +3
Missouri	Reuters/Zogby	McCain 46, Obama 47	Obama +1
Missouri  FOX News/Rasmussen	McCain 49, Obama 49	Tie
Missouri	SurveyUSA	McCain 48, Obama 48	Tie
Montana 	PPP (D) 	McCain 47, Obama 48	Obama +1
National  Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby	Obama 51, McCain 44	Obama +7
National	Diageo/Hotline	Obama 50, McCain 45	Obama +5
National	Gallup	        Obama 55, McCain 44	Obama +11
National	Marist	        Obama 53, McCain 44	Obama +9
National	FOX News	Obama 50, McCain 43	Obama +7
National    Rasmussen Reports	Obama 52, McCain 46	Obama +6
National    NBC News/Wall St. 	Obama 51, McCain 43	Obama +8
National    GWU/Battleground	Obama 50, McCain 44	Obama +6
Nevada	        Reuters/Zogby	Obama 51, McCain 43	Obama +8
North Carolina	Reuters/Zogby	McCain 49, Obama 48	McCain +1
North Carolina	PPP (D) 	McCain 49, Obama 50	Obama +1
North Carolina	FOX/Rasmussen	McCain 50, Obama 49	McCain +1
Ohio	        PPP (D) 	Obama 50, McCain 48	Obama +2
Ohio	FOX News/Rasmussen	Obama 49, McCain 49	Tie
Ohio	        Reuters/Zogby	Obama 50, McCain 44	Obama +6
Ohio	        SurveyUSA	Obama 48, McCain 46	Obama +2
Ohio	        Quinnipiac	Obama 50, McCain 43	Obama +7
Ohio	Univ of Cinci/Ohio Poll	Obama 52, McCain 46	Obama +6
Pennsylvania	PPP (D) 	Obama 53, McCain 45	Obama +8
Pennsylvania	Reuters/Zogby	Obama 54, McCain 40	Obama +14
Pennsylvania	Morning Call	Obama 52, McCain 46	Obama +6
Pennsylvania	Quinnipiac	Obama 52, McCain 42	Obama +10
Virginia	Reuters/Zogby	Obama 51, McCain 45	Obama +6
Virginia    FOX News/Rasmussen	Obama 51, McCain 47	Obama +4

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Just Lou] #518666
11/03/08 04:02 PM
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I think the Ohio polls with an Obama lead are off. I predict Obama will not win Ohio, but has enough wins "in the bank" in states like Colorado, PA, and with a likely win in Virginia.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: goombah] #518667
11/03/08 04:04 PM
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'Joe the Plumber' Plans Life After 2008 Election.

Joe Wurzelbacher plans to use his newfound fame for the greater good, he says, opening up a charitable group that is built on "American values."

FOXNews.com

Monday, November 03, 2008

Joe the Plumber is short on cash and unemployed but that's not stopping him from opening a new charitable foundation and penning a book on American values.

"I got no financial offers. I am broke," Joe Wurzelbacher said Monday, explaining that he's got a few ideas on how to spread the wealth to himself and others following bogus reports of a professional management deal and potential country music career.

"I am starting a charity up, it's called 'Secure Our Dream.' It's just about people, neighbors in the community," Wurzelbacher told FOXNews.com.

The plumber-turned-media-fixture got a taste for charity work last week at an event in Philadelphia that aimed to help out family members of police officers killed in the line of duty.

He said he hasn't figured out how he's going to finance the charity, but knows how he wants the money to be spent.

"You know there's a lady on my street that is going to lose her house because of disability. You know ... that's something this charity that I am starting would help, help people directly," he said.

Wurzelbacher made national headlines in late September when he asked Barack Obama a question about tax policy that elicited the Democratic candidate's response that he wants to "spread the wealth" around by raising taxes on individuals earning more than $250,000 a year.

Immediately becoming a media sensation, Wurzelbacher hasn't been doing any plumbing work these days. He said while he is looking forward to the notoriety of being Joe the Plumber dying down somewhat, he doesn't want the newfound fame to disappear altogether.

"Obviously I gotta keep out there to a degree. That way this can take off and some real help can happen," he said. "The federal government is really not going to be able to affect, really, people on a community level, whereas the Joe the Plumber persona, which is hard to even relate to that because I don't know it doesn't feel like me, but if (it) can bring money to people and you know help out" then it will have been useful.

Wurzelbacher said he doesn't want Obama, or anyone else, at the federal level dictating how to spend his money, especially when that dictation comes from people whom Wurzelbacher sees as less than generous.

"Americans have always been great at giving to charities. We give more than any other country in the world. Let's direct it here more at home. Obama at the federal level, he is going to dictate and take more out of my pocket and tell me who to give it to? You know I am a pretty nice guy, you know I give to charities, I give to my church. You know, Joe the Biden, what he gave -- $3,000 last year -- and this guy makes millions? Come on, you know, that's just ridiculous."

Wurzelbacher said he knows he is "not speaking for all Americans" but does feel that he has some cause to use his recent publicity to maximum effect.

"The reason why I feel somewhat able to do it is because the letters and phone calls I get, and I get a ton of them. ... Democrat or Republican I am getting incredible feedback. So, authorized by the American people to speak for them? No. But a lot of people coming up to me and saying keep doing it, keep doing it. Civic duty is not a punch line with me. That's how I was raised and that's why I keep doing it."

But charity isn't Wurzelbacher's sole goal. Sharing the wealth also means helping himself. To that end, he's working with writer Tom Tabback on a book about American values.

"Everyone came at me to write a book. They had dollar signs in their eyes. '101 Things Joe the Plumber Knows' or some stupid s--- like that. Excuse me, I am sorry," he said. "You know I will get behind something solid, but I won't get behind fluff. I won't cash in, and when people do read the book they will figure out that I didn't cash in. At least I hope they figure that out."

The book, called "Joe the Plumber -- Fighting for the American Dream," is to be released by a group called PearlGate Publishing and other small publishing houses.

"I am not going to a conglomerate that way we actually can get the economy jump started. Like there is five publishing companies in Michigan. There's a couple down in Texas. They are small ones that can handle like 10 or 15,000 copies. I can go to a big one that could handle a million or two. But they don't need the help. They are already rich. So that's spreading the wealth to me," he said.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Just Lou] #518670
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Some people don't know when their 15 minutes are up.


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"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Just Lou] #518671
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I've finally finished my research on the candidates running for office in my area. I only have 5 positions up for election, including president. Besides Obama, I'll be voting for 2 Republicans, and 2 Democrats.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Just Lou] #518672
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Besides Obama, I'll be voting for 2 Republicans, and 2 Democrats.


Sounds like you're spreading the wealth.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: SC] #518673
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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Besides Obama, I'll be voting for 2 Republicans, and 2 Democrats.


Sounds like you're spreading the wealth.


Lou is a socialist?




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: SC] #518674
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Just like Fox News, I'm "fair and balanced". rolleyes

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Just Lou] #518675
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How can I not vote for someone with a name like 'Lou Tobacco'? wink

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Just Lou] #518676
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WATCH WHAT VIRGINIA DOES


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"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: dontomasso] #518678
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I WILL

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IM NOT, IM GONNA SEE WHAT ALL THE VOTERS DO AND ESPECIALLY OBAMA AND NAYLIN.


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Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: svsg] #518699
11/03/08 05:24 PM
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Well I early voted a week ago:

PRESIDENT - Obama (D)
U.S. SENATE - Lamar Alexander (R)
STATE SENATE - Ron Ramsey (R)
STATE HOUSE - Nathan Vaughn (D)


McCain will win Tennessee by at least 10 points...but I voted.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: goombah] #518700
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Originally Posted By: goombah
I think the Ohio polls with an Obama lead are off. I predict Obama will not win Ohio, but has enough wins "in the bank" in states like Colorado, PA, and with a likely win in Virginia.


I think that SurveyUSA poll on Minnesota is an outlinier(i.e. Off). Obama will win the state of Walter Mondale.

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: Enzo Scifo] #518701
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What are everyone's viewing plans for tomorrow? Thankfully, I have to work until 7:00 EST, so I get to miss some of the coverage. I am seriously considering not watching b/c I fear that we may not know until the wee hours/the next day(s).

I probably will watch, but it will be between CNN and Comedy Central's coverage. The latter is hosting a special with Stephen Colbert & Jon Stewart. Olbermann & Hannity cannot hold a candle to those two!

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: goombah] #518702
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HISTORIC QUOTES....

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative and independence. You cannot heal men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." ... Abraham Lincoln

"We need to spread the wealth." ... Barack Hussein Obama

PASS IT ALONG....AND VOTE CAREFULLY !!

Last edited by AppleOnYa; 11/03/08 05:34 PM.

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.

- THOMAS JEFFERSON

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: AppleOnYa] #518704
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
HISTORIC QUOTES....

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative and independence. You cannot heal men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." ... Abraham Lincoln

"We need to spread the wealth." ... Barack Hussein Obama

PASS IT ALONG....AND VOTE CAREFULLY !!


Hey apple, what the fuck you think TAXES do and already have since we ratified that Income Tax Amendement at the turn of the 20th Century?

Hell, Adam Smith...you know, the author of WEALTH OF NATIONS, argued that taxes("spreading the wealth") isn't an evil.

If anything, why aren't you using Obama's "Coal" quotes instead?

Re: CAMPAIGN 2008 [Re: AppleOnYa] #518705
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FWIW - CNN is reporting that Obama's grandmother died.


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