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Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: olivant] #513054
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Okay, so the Senate passed the rescue bill. But I'm not sure that it will pass the House.


I guess it depends on how many in the House are up for re-election huh?


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: olivant] #513055
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Okay, so the Senate passed the rescue bill. But I'm not sure that it will pass the House.


I'm thinking it will. Too many were in shell shock I think, the first time around. I think there will be some opposed of course, but it will pass.

Then again, they thought it would pass the first time too. ohwell

TIS


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Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #513109
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The Dow is already down 184 points. Geez, Louise. When is it going to stop??


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Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Sicilian Babe] #513110
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
The Dow is already down 184 points. Geez, Louise. When is it going to stop??


"Buy land AJ, cause God ain't making any more of it."


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: pizzaboy] #513111
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
The Dow is already down 184 points. Geez, Louise. When is it going to stop??


"Buy land AJ, cause God ain't making any more of it."


Who are you, Lex Luthor? tongue

Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #513112
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
The Dow is already down 184 points. Geez, Louise. When is it going to stop??


"Buy land AJ, cause God ain't making any more of it."


Who are you, Lex Luthor? tongue


Nah, I thought I remembered Tony Soprano telling that to his son, but it's the truth. I realize that NOTHING is absolutely recession proof, but as a landlord you can pretty much always make a profitable living, as long as you're fair with your tenants.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: pizzaboy] #513116
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In the long run, if you're not greedy, real estate will always make you money. But the truth is, too many people make a nice profit, then get greedy and start to leverage things they truly don't own in order to make even more money. If you buy something that you can afford to hold onto in lean times, then you are bound to make a profit, even if it's down the road. And if you are in some sort of position to buy anything right now, do it. I can't imagine, with the credit crunch the way it is, that the Prime is going anywhere.


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Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Sicilian Babe] #513136
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed it doesn't pass the house, but there are too many helmet-toting folks in the Senate last night for me to think the House has any less.



Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Double-J] #513207
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Originally Posted By: Double-J
I'm keeping my fingers crossed it doesn't pass the house


Aw fuck, I agreed with JJ on something. I'm doomed.




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Sicilian Babe] #513212
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
And if you are in some sort of position to buy anything right now, do it.


Better advice, you'll never get. Buy, baby, buy!


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Longneck] #513227
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Originally Posted By: Longneck
Originally Posted By: Double-J
I'm keeping my fingers crossed it doesn't pass the house


Aw fuck, I agreed with JJ on something. I'm doomed.


Grab my hand, we'll jump together!



Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Double-J] #513338
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The Bill passed. I guess time will tell if it's a good deal for America.

Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Just Lou] #513346
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I'm so glad they raised the insured FDIC amount to 250K. That will really help me and my bank account that was -$500 a week ago.

Wait, no, it won't. Not a bad idea though if you have enough money for it to matter.




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Longneck] #513351
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I lost about 20% so far on one mutual fund, but luckily I invested in "natural resources", and that fund paid about 30% last year. I still lost a little, but it should go back up again long before I plan on touching any of it.

Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Longneck] #513358
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Originally Posted By: Longneck
I'm so glad they raised the insured FDIC amount to 250K. That will really help me and my bank account that was -$500 a week ago.

Wait, no, it won't. Not a bad idea though if you have enough money for it to matter.



Time to start stuffing our cash in a mattress. This is going to be a pretty fucked up ride.



Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Double-J] #513362
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The FDIC amount desperately needed to be raised to protect payroll accounts and the like. Even a small business, say a construction company that has highly skilled laborers who make big hourly wages, can have a 6 figure payroll.


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Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Sicilian Babe] #513369
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Of course, with taxes now sure to rise, most of those companies will have to lay off those laborers. Should be fun.



Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Double-J] #513371
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Taxes are going to rise no matter who gets elected - and it's going to be at every level. When governments had a surplus a few years ago, they squandered them on "gifts" to their constituents. We had one local guy who put some statues in his backyard and got money from his local legislator for a "museum". Now that there are huge budget shortfalls, taxes are going to be raised. And just wait for this winter when energy costs are sky-high. The schools will threaten to either raise taxes or freeze your kids all winter.


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Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Sicilian Babe] #513375
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Taxes aren't going to rise if Obama is elected.

Patrick told me so.



Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Double-J] #513923
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The DOW is down -500, under 10,000. ohwell

Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Just Lou] #513925
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Wow. That's got to be the first time in YEARS. Just wow.

It's too frightening to turn on the TV or radio any more.


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Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Sicilian Babe] #513926
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At this point, I just won't look at my balances until things go back up. Luckily I'm not relying on any of my investments for my retirement, etc. I'm pretty much in the market for the fun of it. ohwell

Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Just Lou] #513927
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Well, like I said in an earlier post, if you happen to be young enough, then you really don't have a huge problem. It's all on paper anyway. But if you happen to be contemplating retirement, then you could very well be screwed.


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Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Sicilian Babe] #513963
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Wow. That's got to be the first time in YEARS. Just wow.

It's too frightening to turn on the TV or radio any more.


I know, I spent the morning thumbing through news and blogs and it is all doom and gloom.

I should have either just stayed in bed or concentrated on my fun job, as long as I have one!


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Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Saladbar] #513965
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My coworkers and I were discussing the economy at lunch. Being in commercial real estate, we have not felt the same tremors as those in the residential market UNTIL now. The credit crunch has now hit us as well. And I don't think we're going to see the light at the end of the tunnel for some time.

One of the guys said, "I don't remember the economy being this bad EVER," and I said that I did because my husband and I both lost our jobs during the last recession, me in Februrary of 1991 and he in January of 1992. As long as you're employed, even if you have to stretch your dollars, at least you have dollars to stretch.


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Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Sicilian Babe] #513977
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe

One of the guys said, "I don't remember the economy being this bad EVER," and I said that I did because my husband and I both lost our jobs during the last recession, me in Februrary of 1991 and he in January of 1992. As long as you're employed, even if you have to stretch your dollars, at least you have dollars to stretch.


I remember! 1992 is the year I went to graduate school and lived on $450 a month while going to UC Berkeley (which was an expensive place even back then, $400 barely covered rent, scholarships covered tuition). The youngish can do that, but most families now don't have that option.


"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it"
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Down 780 and we still have more than an hour to go before the market closes. eek

Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Don Sicilia] #513981
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On the bright side, it's probably a great time to buy property. I'm just wondering if that time is NOW or in a few months from now...?



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Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: J Geoff] #513984
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Good luck getting a mortgage now, if your credit score is below 740.

Re: What the F*ck is Going On With the Economy? [Re: Just Lou] #513987
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I'm gonna make them an offer they can't refuse lol



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