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Opinions about the novel #49463
06/12/03 12:56 PM
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one of the 7 continents, yeah
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You, as fans of this book entilted "The Godfather" most be huge fans of not only the famed trilogy, but the novel as well. So in a few words, what do you have to say about reading it? Was it great!?! tongue


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49464
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The read goes by fast, but there is alot of Hollywood stuff in it that, depending on how many times you've seen the movie, varies in levels of annoyance. Otherwise it is a great book.

Re: Opinions about the novel #49465
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It a great book and a lot better than the movie, IMHO. the reason i said this? lots of characters are not in the movie and info's on the main characters. good examples are Luca Brasi and Al Neri's background, the story behind Sonny and Lucy and how Tom Hagen get into the Corleone Family . . .

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Re: Opinions about the novel #49466
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I found Neri's background to be particularily interesting.

Re: Opinions about the novel #49467
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I agree with Luca's Boy. I love the fact that the uniform he wore the day of the Baptism Massacre was in fact his own. I also like the character Nick. I know FFC didn't care for that side of the book, but I wish he could have found a way to introduce him.

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Re: Opinions about the novel #49468
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It is one of the most enjoyable books I have ever read (not sure if this is because I like the film so much) but is by no means most well-written book. I believe The Godfather could have been a lot better had Puzo put more effort into the actual writing it. I do realise though that he said many times that he was broke for money, and the sole purpose of writing it was to make a bit cash. He could never have foreseen how popular it would become.

Mick


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49469
06/12/03 07:16 PM
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The novel and film are perfect companions. The novel is a great, quick read--sprawling, coarse, plenty of rough edges, but humming with energy and action. And Puzo, although he wasn't a polished writer, was a great storyteller. Plenty of wonderful stories in the novel never made it to the screen. But the film is a masterpiece, a flawless gem, with nearly all the energy of the novel, none of the rough edges--but with some of the stories and background of the novel missing. Taken together: unbeatable!


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
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Re: Opinions about the novel #49470
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Turnbull got it right. Apart they are alright, put together they can be the best story you ever heard,saw or thought of.

Thanks for the Congrats, Irish-Consigilre

Re: Opinions about the novel #49471
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The novel was perhaps the most enoyable literary experience for me in ages! It had such energy, the story flowed so well, and so many wonderful characters. And it did make me appreciate the films a lot more... smile


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49472
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Both the novel and the films are great and that goes without saying. I like how the book naturally gives you more insight as to what happened in the story. I was kind of suprised to see that Johnny Fontane was more of a main character in the novel, though. He was like what? 3 minutes in the movie?


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49473
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A damn good (one of my favorites) book.
1st Puzo book I read. Has tons of energy, goes by at the right speed, and is near perfect, however I can't compare it to the movie... because I havn't seen it yet (dont shoot me please smile )... if you havn't read it... do so now... mad cool


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49474
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one of the 7 continents, yeah
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Yes I liked it too. I read it within a short amount of time and I don't even read much! The only parts I don't care for really is they talk a lot more about Lucy Mancini and Johnny Fontaine a lot more and also they have that abortionist, maybe he wasn't included in the Godfather movie because of the whole Vincent Mancini ordeal. eek Also I didn't care for Nino's character too much either. smile I do like the discription of Sicily though, it's almost like you're there when you read about it. smile


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49475
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Originally posted by B. B. Cheese:
The only parts I don't care for really is they talk a lot more about Lucy Mancini and Johnny Fontaine a lot more and also they have that abortionist, maybe he wasn't included in the Godfather movie because of the whole Vincent Mancini ordeal. eek
I think they cut the who Lucy Mancini/Jules Segal sequence from the movie, as well as 97% of the Johnny Fontane saga, and even the Nino Valenti/Deanna Dunn incident is because they weren't relevant to the plot as a whole. Vincent Mancini/GF III wasn't even thought of when GF I was being made, so that idea is illogical. We see the beginnings of the Johnny Fontane saga, he is a repeating character in the films, but his story in the film is meant to show the reach of the Godfather's power. And Nino Valenti wasn't included because it coincided with the Fontane saga...and Deanna Dunn WAS included in GF II, but as Fredo's wife. wink



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Well I forgot to mention this, but the only part I didn't like was how much detail he felt nessicary to describe Sonny's penis... lol

blush rolleyes


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49477
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Welcome, crazedhobo. You should see the movie, it is great.

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Yes I should... yes I should blush tongue


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49479
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well the book is great. and the movie is better. i don't get people thinking the book is better then the movie. it puzzles me. and i do agree that the lucy mancini part of the book is too boring to even bother mentioning in the movie. and no it doesn't have anything to do with the plot of the movie. if they were to have added the back ground of every character then the movie would have been to long and the perfect flow would have been disruptive. think of it that way ladies and gentlemen. rolleyes


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49480
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Well most of the time, the complex stories that can be portrayed in books cannot always be translated to movies, unless you want a ten hour narrorated movie grin


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<---- oh and by the way, hes constipated! grin eek cool


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49482
06/18/03 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by mr. soprano:
well the book is great. and the movie is better. i don't get people thinking the book is better then the movie. it puzzles me.
Out of curiosity, would you still think it was puzzling if the movie had never been made? And if the movie hadn't, would you have even read the book? I for one know that I would not have read it had it not been for the film.

Mick

PS> Mr Soprano, as you are called that name, you should visit the Sopranos section more often. grin


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49483
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There can be no argument that the movie is a better movie than the book is a book.

The movie is one of the greatest films of all time. I don't think anyone would say that the novel is one of the greatest books of all time.


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49484
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Originally posted by plawrence:
There can be no argument that the movie is a better movie than the book is a book.

The movie is one of the greatest films of all time. I don't think anyone would say that the novel is one of the greatest books of all time.
I don't know why, but the novel gives me a different perspective on the whole story. Its like the Movie is what it is and it appears much different than the details provided in the book do. For example, many things aren't mentioned if implied like Michael Corleone showing his anger (which he did a few times in the book) as well as the whole background story on Luca Brasi and the continuous following of Lucy Mancini, Johnny Fontane, the doctor and Nino Valenti.


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49485
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It is the best book I have along with Clockwork Orange and various works by Steven King.

Re: Opinions about the novel #49486
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Originally posted by Robert:
It is the best book I have along with Clockwork Orange and various works by Steven King.
Not to split hairs, but you have to make the distinction between "The Best Book" and "The Book I Enjoyed The Most"

Yes, THE GODFATHER is certainly on my list of books I enjoyed the most, but, just as certainly, not on my list of "best"


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49487
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Originally posted by Robert:
[b] It is the best book I have along with Clockwork Orange and various works by Steven King.
Not to split hairs, but you have to make the distinction between "The Best Book" and "The Book I Enjoyed The Most"

Yes, THE GODFATHER is certainly on my list of books I enjoyed the most, but, just as certainly, not on my list of "best" [/b]
I'll add a big second to that!

Mick


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49488
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Like plawrence said, The Godfather movie was a much more better movie the book was a book. I watched the trilogy first, and then I read the book, the novel without any doubt one of the works I enjoyed most.


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49489
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It can be sad that the "The Godfather" is the Best novle ever writen.


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Re: Opinions about the novel #49490
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Originally posted by Mike Sulivan:
It can be sad that the "The Godfather" is the Best novle ever writen.
I agree: it could be said, but certainly should not be said. Each to his own, but you cannot say that it was the best book ever written. Perhaps one of the most enjoyable pieces of literature, but by no means the best. smile Welcome to the BB.

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Re: Opinions about the novel #49491
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I liked the book for the following: more background on Hagen, Neri, Kay, Luca, and Sonny as the Don.

However, I felt that there was too much background on characters I found to be insignificant: Johnny, Lucy, and Johnny's singing friend (his name escapes me). Also, Puzo tended to be verbose at times.

Overall, a good read. I like how Hagen explains to Kay why things were done at the book's end, which is obviously different than the end of GF1.

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Originally posted by goombah:
I liked the book for the following: more background on Hagen, Neri, Kay, Luca, and Sonny as the Don.

However, I felt that there was too much background on characters I found to be insignificant: Johnny, Lucy, and Johnny's singing friend (his name escapes me). Also, Puzo tended to be verbose at times.

Overall, a good read. I like how Hagen explains to Kay why things were done at the book's end, which is obviously different than the end of GF1.
Nino. His name was Nino. And thanks for the welcome Capo!


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