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Re: My novel questions
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01/03/03 07:34 AM
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plawrence
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Nazorine is not a relative. His relationship with Don C. stemmed from his paying dues to the Don's bakery union over the years. The statement you refer to was made by Nazorine's wife to Nazorine.
Anthony Coppola was the son of a man Don C. had worked with in his youth. He needed to borrow $500 to open a pizzeria. I always thought it ironic that his name was Coppola, as in Francis Ford. Puzo could not have known at the time he wrote the book that he and FFC would be collaborating on the screenplays for three films originating from his novel, and that FFC would direct them.
Are you reading the novel in English, or a translation to Dutch?
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Re: My novel questions
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01/12/03 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by M.M. Floors: 3) Do I understand it good when Vito is helping Nazorine that he's paying people to get a new law that makes it happen that Enzo (and other people like him) trough the Congress? And why does Vito gives this job not to Congresman Luceto but the Jew? It's not realy a "law" that would apply to Enzo and other people like him. In the American system it would be considered a "bill", which is kind of like a law, that would apply to Enzo only and allow him to become an American citizen. Each individual in Enzo's circumstances would require their own special "bill", which would apply strictly to them. Remember Vito's comment about the passing of such a bill: "The bill would surely pass Congress. A privilege all those rascals (Congressmen) extended to each other". Why he instructed Hagen to give the job to a Congressman from another district? I have no idea.
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Re: My novel questions
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01/12/03 12:40 PM
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1. DiNobili cigars are made in the US by an Italian family. They are crooked in shape, and very strong tasting, due to the fact that the wrappers are made from leaves that have been hickory-smoked. They (along with Parodi and Lupo cigars) were much-favored by Italian-American families of that era. 2. Strega ("witch" in Italian) is a Sicilian liquer flavored with fennel and mint, tastes a bit like anisette. 3. As plawrence said, any Congressman can introduce a "private" bill that, unlike regular legislation, is for the benefit of a single constituent. For example, members of the Ways and Means Committee routinely introduce bills to reduce or eliminate taxes for corporations in their districts. And any Congressman can introduce a bill to make an immigrant in his/her district a citizen without going through the usual immigration rigmarole. Of course, the other Congressmen have to approve the bill. The reason Vito told Tom to give Enzo's case "not to our paisan --give it to a Jew Congressman in another district," was twofold: First, his own, local Congressman probably was an Italian-American. Enzo was an Italian prisoner of war. Italian-Americans were sensitive about Italy being allied with Nazi Germany for most of the war, so Vito spared the Italian-American Congressman the possible embarrassment of showing favoritism to "one of his own kind"--a problem that a Jewish Congressman wouldn't have. Second, Vito surmised that there'd be many such requests for private bills for citizenship in the postwar months. He was seeking to spread around the requests among many Congressmen to keep the price down.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: My novel questions
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01/13/03 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by Turnbull: ... 3. As plawrence said, any Congressman can introduce a "private" bill that, unlike regular legislation, is for the benefit of a single constituent. For example, members of the Ways and Means Committee routinely introduce bills to reduce or eliminate taxes for corporations in their districts. And any Congressman can introduce a bill to make an immigrant in his/her district a citizen without going through the usual immigration rigmarole. Of course, the other Congressmen have to approve the bill. The reason Vito told Tom to give Enzo's case "not to our paisan --give it to a Jew Congressman in another district," was twofold: First, his own, local Congressman probably was an Italian-American. Enzo was an Italian prisoner of war. Italian-Americans were sensitive about Italy being allied with Nazi Germany for most of the war,... Thanks Turnbull; I guess this was informative for me too.
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Re: My novel questions
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01/16/03 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by M.M. Floors: 1) There is a sentence where they mention the word infamita, this isn't a Dutch word. I think it's Italian. But what does it mean. (It was used when Vito says to Tom: He (Sollozzo) wants to propose a infamita.) Infamita is a disrepect and/or a mortal sin. 2) When Vito goes to Genco, Genco says: remember the time when we were playing BOCCHIO in front of the wine cellars. What is BOCCHIO for game?
In America we refer to the game as "bocce". Its a team game played with balls on a dirt covered court. The object is for each team to get their bocce balls closest to one ball called a "pallino". As in shuffleboard, one is allowed to knock an opponent's ball away, and hopefully place his own ball closer.
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Re: My novel questions
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01/25/03 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by M.M. Floors: Ok some new ones:
1) When Tom is walking towards Macy, he's caught by Sollozzo. But what is Macy, girlfriend/restaurant/hotel?
Macy's is the world's largest department store. Clothes, furniture, housewares, food...
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Re: My novel questions
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01/25/03 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by M.M. Floors:
Can somebody tell me if the translation is wrong or FFC interperted the book wrong/ or did he do it on purpose? you're not wrong, MM! the english one states that the seller points out a bad piece of fruit and sonny tells carmella to dress. so, the dutch transations aren't wrong! mick
...dot com bold typeface rhetoric. You go clickety click and get your head split. 'The hell you look like on a message board Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
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Re: My novel questions
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04/23/03 03:55 AM
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Hi! Originally posted by Turnbull: And any Congressman can introduce a bill to make an immigrant in his/her district a citizen without going through the usual immigration rigmarole. Perhaps, this was yet one reason for choosing another district: Enzo might have legally resided in that another district, which was different from the one of that paisan Don Vito would go through usually. Best regards. Alexander
You may wish to browse this GF FAQ of mine before putting forward another frequently asked question.
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Re: My novel questions
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04/24/03 01:02 AM
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Turnbull
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Originally posted by Alexander Supalov: Hi!
Originally posted by Turnbull: [b]And any Congressman can introduce a bill to make an immigrant in his/her district a citizen without going through the usual immigration rigmarole. Perhaps, this was yet one reason for choosing another district: Enzo might have legally resided in that another district, which was different from the one of that paisan Don Vito would go through usually.
Best regards.
Alexander [/b]In the novel, the Don instructs Hagen to "have the addresses changed," presumably so that they can pose as constituents of the Congressman from another district.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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