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Sexual content of the novel #47687
09/16/01 04:35 PM
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I just re-read the novel, and I forced myself to read every page, rather than breezing through the Jules Segal and Lucy bits. I had not really been aware of the heavy and totally irrelevent and lurid sexual content of the novel.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not offended by the content, but it just seems so mis-placed in this great novel. Was it just a device to increase sales?

I first read the novel as a 13 year old schoolgirl, and I remember being profoundly shocked by the novel, the first 'adult' book I had read.

How do other women feel about this?

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OK, sorry, how do other people feel about this?

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OK, sorry, how do other people feel about this?



Hey....now I can put in my 2 cents!
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I skip over those parts whenever I re-read the book, too. They're totally unnecessary to the storyline, and quite frankly I find them boring as well.

I can only surmise that Puzo included them in the book to give it a better chance of being more commercially successful (many authors of that period included gratuitous sex scenes).


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I found them unnecessary but not overly gross. Although I do wonder why Puzo felt he should put it in there. I recently re-read it and it just seems that it was added on latter to make the novel longer. I mena, it's not overly sexual, it's just...medical.


"Bacio tua mano."

"But...it was so artistically done."
Re: Sexual content of the novel #47692
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At least not putting it in the movie made it that much better wink .

Re: Sexual content of the novel #47693
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Ok I think the sexual content of the book was alright it's not the type of book to get off on if that's what your saying. But to read it at the age of 13 yeah it's gonna be pretty graphic!~ tongue

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It certainly would.Its bad to the bone.

Re: Sexual content of the novel #47695
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Mobbing for Money answer this question did you get turned on when you read the sexual content in the novel?

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Its funny because I always mention that (Lucy Mancini's issues) to the people I know read the book (apart from my dad). Anyway, I found it a bit disturbing. Its more information than I wanted to know.

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No.Did you?

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Your right Mal, but some people don't think so!

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Actually it grossed me out.To hear about the surgery and just thinking about the two of them with the problem seemed very disgusting.

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In the start of the book there is some sexual content that I don't think a 13 should read. Don't ya agree? tongue

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I have NO problems with the sexual contents of the book. It don't bored me, does it turn me on .......... maybe, i can't remember. I've read the novel when i was 17 years old so i guess it turned me on yeah. wink


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Yeah I'm thinking it turn ya on at 17 tongue

Re: Sexual content of the novel #47703
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Mario always said about the Godfather...

"its time to grow up and sell out."

Sex sells, its true. Even on everyday commercials on TV nowadays like hair products, cars etc.

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Those parts of Jules Segal and Lucy Mancini are very irrelevant to the book for me. (Also the Jonny Fontaine bits aswell). But I think there written very well, I used to consider them boring but not anymore, just merely irrelevant. But maybe if they were part of a seperate book it might have worked. Like a spin-off book or something. Silly idea I know, but it could include Fredo aswell all in Las Vegas/Hollywood.


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47704
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Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:

Those parts of Jules Segal and Lucy Mancini are very irrelevant to the book for me. (Also the Jonny Fontaine bits aswell). But I think there written very well, I used to consider them boring but not anymore, just merely irrelevant. But maybe if they were part of a seperate book it might have worked. Like a spin-off book or something. Silly idea I know, but it could include Fredo aswell all in Las Vegas/Hollywood.


Sure, i'll guess your right Turi, what's the problem.

I've you like it read it, i've you don't like skip it, no problem thus.


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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47705
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Just sharing an idea of mine. No problem with me. Maybe it was another of your translation errors.... wink


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Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
Maybe it was another of your translation errors.... wink


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May you will have a translation error on this.

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Okay, settle down now... take it off the board if there's a problem...

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I don't understand what you mean Don Michael. You're speaking in another language. I understand English perfectly though. And all I meant is that you have taken my post definately the wrong way about the Lucy Mancini and Dr Jules Segal part. I thought it was a very worthy post. But you seemed to think I didn't like the topic. I don't know where you have got that idea.

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Re: Sexual content of the novel #47709
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[ September 17, 2001: Message edited by: Constanzia ]


Never hate your emenies, it affects your judgements...
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I didn't mind the Dr Jules or the Johnny part. I was interested to find out a bit more about Lucy, but maybe not that much, don't get me wrong it wasn't lewd (in my opinion) but I think there was maybe going to be a story line at the end of it or something and Puzo just didn't get round to it or he didn't like what he was wanting, I was expeceting to find her pregnant (probably because I watch the films before I even thought about reading the book.

I was interested in the Johnny part more thought because it put a better emphasis on the relationships and after all he was family.

But back to the original point, the sex which went on throught out the book, didn't really have a point, unless it was just meant to reflect on people and relationships and possible lighten up the novel and take it away from being quite so dark...

Chi sa, potrei straighted-essere merlettato appena circa il sesso?

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I don't understand what you mean Don Michael. You're speaking in another language. I understand English perfectly though.
[ September 17, 2001: Message edited by: Turi Giuliano ]


Ok Turi, no hard feelings from my site, just got a little pissed off about that translation thing, sorry.

By the way, "Su il vostro ", means "up yours".

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Thanks Don Michel and Turi for clearing that up. Join me in a drink! [Linked Image]

Geez, I could go broke buying Turi drinks tongue


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No problem SC, i'm here for fun, not to argu.

By the way my English will become better, hopefully not to much translation errors in the future grin

Just give it some time, i'll do my best frown


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Who cares about sexual content?


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Originally posted by Bogus Castellano:
Who cares about sexual content?


Mothers who think if their children watch a sexual movie or anything like that will become a murderer...or a porn star.

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Mothers who think if their children watch a sexual movie or anything like that will become a murderer...or a porn star.


Good point, i'll think that Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell are against either.
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