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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: Mignon]
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02/11/08 10:18 PM
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DC, My wife confirms that her family and the Italians of her hometown of Pittston, PA (the Tomato Capital of the USA) always referred to the sauce as gravy. I woke her up to ask her this, so I received no further details. I've known her and her family since 1985, and eaten many pasta (oops, I mean macaroni) dinners there, but I've never heard them say gravy, but she says it was commonly called gravy, so I believe it. It still seems odd to me as gravy is what I put on mashed potatoes and turkey. But I learn something every day. 
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: klydon1]
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02/11/08 10:47 PM
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I'm with you Kly. I never knew it as gravy either. Maybe it depends on where you were born/raised or ancestors. Maybe it's "gravy" in the East and "sauce' in the Midwest.  I don't know. To me, gravy is what you put on your mashed potatos and roast. Oh well, I'll eat it no matter what you wanna call it.  TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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02/11/08 10:51 PM
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Mignon
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Oh well, I'll eat it no matter what you wanna call it. TIS And that's all that matters to me to TIS.
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: whisper]
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02/12/08 08:21 AM
02/12/08 08:21 AM
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J Geoff
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I've never heard "gravy" either - and my grandparents were from Sicily and Calabria. But I have no problem with the term referring to meat added to sauce I suppose.. "Gravy" to me means the typical brown gravy, or, turkey gravy. Otherwise it's spaghetti sauce 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: SC]
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02/12/08 08:46 AM
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Beth E
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she asked me how I liked her gravy. I was a little confused and told her it was delicious but that it tasted like sauce. She said something in Italian indicating I wasn't too bright That's funny. This is one picture I won't get out of my head.  That somewhat reminds me of an old co-worker. For our Christmas lunch we all went to a restaurant, and this girl ordered filet mignon. This was her first time eating it. We asked how she like it, and she said it was good, that it kind of tasted like steak.
How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin
When there's a will...put me in it.
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: SC]
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02/12/08 08:55 AM
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J Geoff
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The reference to gravy is a New York Italian thing. There you go -- a "New York Italian" thing... not an Italian thing. Same as the NY/NJ mispronunciation of most Italian pasta names/dishes mani- got ...Huh? Say THAT in Italy!
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: J Geoff]
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02/12/08 08:57 AM
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SC
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There you go -- a "New York Italian" thing... not an Italian thing. Same as the NY/NJ mispronunciation of most Italian pasta names/dishes mani- got ...Huh? How do you pronounce it??
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: SC]
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02/12/08 09:03 AM
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J Geoff
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How do you pronounce it?? Like they do in Italy... mahn-ee-'cot-ee All vowels are pronounced in (proper) Italian. Does anyone say "spaghett" instead of spaghetti? Or "zeet" for ziti? Why's manicotti different?
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: J Geoff]
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02/12/08 09:06 AM
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SC
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Like they do in Italy... mahn-ee-'cot-ee All vowels are pronounced in (proper) Italian. Does anyone say "spaghett" instead of spaghetti? Or "zeet" for ziti? Why's manicotti different? Because its a local slang. You say that in New York and you'll get laughed back across the river. Try ordering cappy-cola too.
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: SC]
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02/12/08 09:09 AM
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J Geoff
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You mean Gabby-gol? Order that in Italy!
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: J Geoff]
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02/12/08 09:12 AM
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J Geoff
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...but I do hear what you're saying, and I DO use the local vernacular when I need to
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: Beth E]
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02/12/08 09:13 AM
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J Geoff
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How do you say spaghettios in Italy? Spaghetti-O-No's!
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: SC]
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02/12/08 09:16 AM
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J Geoff
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You mean Gabby-gol? Order that in Italy! I'm not in Italy, I'm in New York. ...but you wanna sound Italian using pseudo-Italian-American-but-not-real-Italian? (who doesn't!  )
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: J Geoff]
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02/12/08 09:24 AM
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Don't know if this is exclusive only to Italians, but a couple more observations: I've noticed that Italians can be quite loud when in a group. Why my mother's natural speaking voice is kind of loud. Someone could think she was mad. On Sundays we always had to get dressed up. We'd stay in our "church" clothes all day. I remember playing outside all dressed up. On a different note, it "was" tradition for the oldtimers anyway, for the woman to wear black when her husband passes away. My grandmother lost her husband when he was 52. She died at 90 and wore black her entire life after his death (approx 30 some years.  TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: SC]
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02/12/08 09:25 AM
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J Geoff
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...but you wanna sound Italian using pseudo-Italian-American-but-not-real-Italian? But it ain't pseudo here in New York. ...nor Jersey. I don't care, but I get a few giggles out of it
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: J Geoff]
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02/12/08 09:27 AM
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J Geoff
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TIS! You're up early! And I'm about ready for bed!
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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02/12/08 09:27 AM
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Beth E
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Don't know if this is exclusive only to Italians, but a couple more observations: I've noticed that Italians can be quite loud when in a group. Why my mother's natural speaking voice is kind of loud. Someone could think she was mad. My sister Angel on the other hand is as quiet as a church mouse. I think she's adopted. On Sundays we always had to get dressed up. We'd stay in our "church" clothes all day. I remember playing outside all dressed up. On a different note, it "was" tradition for the oldtimers anyway, for the woman to wear black when her husband passes away. My grandmother lost her husband when he was 52. She died at 90 and wore black her entire life after his death (approx 30 some years. TIS Talking loud might just come from being in a large family. You have to talk loud to be heard. I've been told to tone it down a bit. It doesnt' help that I'm half deaf. I've heard about women wearing black when in mourning, but only for a year, not their whole life.
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How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin
When there's a will...put me in it.
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: SC]
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02/12/08 09:39 AM
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Don Cardi
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There you go -- a "New York Italian" thing... not an Italian thing. Same as the NY/NJ mispronunciation of most Italian pasta names/dishes mani- got ...Huh? How do you pronounce it?? It's not pronounced like Mrs. Manicotti in the Honeymooners! It's pronounced : mOn - e - gOth In Italy, except for the O, the other vowels are sounded out differently than in America. The O is still sounded out as a long O just like in the english language. The E is sounded out as a a short E ( like in the word wEt) So in Italy you would say, (just like here in east Geoff ) m O-N e-g Oth
Don Cardi  Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Being Italian.
[Re: Beth E]
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02/12/08 09:39 AM
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I get up at 4:00. The roosters tell me to go back to bed. To be honest, I was actually awake at 2:00 but made myself stay in bed. At least 4:00 it seems the next day I guess. I hate it when I can't sleep. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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