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Re: Why does everybody think Scarface has no storyline?
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05/10/05 02:43 AM
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dv...you have to give it more credit then that...i also agree it's overrated but to say you can't see the symbolism. can you see the symbolism in aurthor millers a death of a salesman? both are about the american dream...the idea that you can come to this country and be great...but only to discover there is a price to pay. now, where willy lohman is so absorbed with becoming rich that he never amounts to anything, tony does become wealthy. but he pays the price of selling his soul, and damning himself from this existance. and like the american dream this movie ends in trajedy. he dies, he doesn't live his full life appreciating what he has recieved in the land of dreams. the end.
"strange things happen all the time, and so it goes and so it goes. and the book says, 'we may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us'" - MAGNOLIA
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Re: Why does everybody think Scarface has no storyline?
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05/10/05 06:22 PM
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i agree with mr. soprano. There is tons of sybolism but this movie is over-rated, still a classic however
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Re: Why does everybody think Scarface has no storyline?
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05/13/05 12:40 AM
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dv i didn't say death of a salesmen is a remake im just saying...like it scarface is out to show that there isn't any real american dream. but it's too bad that that is the only part of what i wrote that you focused on.
"strange things happen all the time, and so it goes and so it goes. and the book says, 'we may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us'" - MAGNOLIA
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Re: Why does everybody think Scarface has no storyline?
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05/13/05 03:46 PM
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I can see where your coming from mr. soprano, however, this movie can hardly compare to Death of a Salesman. This movie, while very good, is just about a guy who shoots his way to the top. While, still a classic, very unoriginal.
"The toe you stepped on yesterday may be attached to the ass you have to kiss today." -Former Mayor of Providence, RI, Vincent "Buddy" Cianci
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Re: Why does everybody think Scarface has no storyline?
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05/13/05 04:26 PM
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I disagree.
At the time when Scarface was put out in theaters the whole 'Hollywood' shooter up thing hadnt really taken affect. This is one of the first movies that had bigger explosions and big shot-em-up scenes
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Re: Why does everybody think Scarface has no storyline?
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05/14/05 10:57 AM
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Okay, for my knowledge could you name me 10 hollywood shoot 'em, big budget movies that were done previously?
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Re: Why does everybody think Scarface has no storyline?
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05/14/05 11:37 AM
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First of all, Scarface is a drama, not a shoot'em movie or action movie or anything like that. The movie is 2 hrs and 40 mis ... do you know how many minutes involve weapons?less than 30. Sure,lots of bullets in the end, but that doesnt turn it into a shoot'em or action movie.
Secondly, the movie is a remake, the movie has no storyline. Yes. Its not the tale, its HOW you tell the tale. Scarface does it best.
For example, the movie "A fistful of dollars" : It is also a remake (Yojimbo) and how much of a story is there? So is it a so-so movie? Hardly. There are so many aspects to every movie, storyline is just one of them. Again in this case, its not the story, its HOW you tell the story.
Thirdly, you cant compare a movie to a play, youre talking 2 different dimensions.
P.S. - Miller is one of my fav authors and Death of a Salesman is a great play, but IMO Miller's best work is All My Sons.
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