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Re: Something To Think About... [Re: J Geoff] #428696
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Jerk. \:p

But regardless of physical pain, aside cognitive thought... What gives us the right to take the life of another species for our own gain? We are obviously the most advanced creatures on earth by means of both emotion and cognitive thought, and we also happen to be the most socially and technologically prosperous(perhaps the only). We have secondary means of receiving food and nutrition. What logical point does it serve to continually kill off other animals for our own use?


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Re: Something To Think About... [Re: long_lost_corleone] #428697
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Fish do experience pain, according to:

http://www.pisces.demon.co.uk/pain.html

or for a more general treatment of the subject,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain#Pain_and_nociception_in_other_species

Re: Something To Think About... [Re: long_lost_corleone] #428698
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Apparently you haven't even read The Bible? \:\/ There's the start right there! \:p



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Re: Something To Think About... [Re: J Geoff] #428699
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"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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*yawn*

And your penis is tiny.



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Re: Something To Think About... [Re: long_lost_corleone] #428701
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 Originally Posted By: long_lost_corleone
What logical point does it serve to continually kill off other animals for our own use?

Animal proteins?

Re: Something To Think About... [Re: svsg] #428702
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"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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 Originally Posted By: Don Vercetti
To put it in somewhat of a George Carlin analogy, humans are I love dogs and cats, everything else is fair game. Hypocritical? Yes. Honest? Yes.



So do you go to chinese buffets? \:\)

Sorry could not resist - I am with you this one.


However, I do accept others views as well. My 15 year old daughter has been a veggie for 4 years now.

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 Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
I'm not an animal lover.



So what are your definitions of "animal" and "lover" \:\)

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There is no way in hell I'd give up eating meat. A good steak is part of my menu at least once a week. \:\) Right, wrong, or indifferent...be damned everything else. What can I say. I'm a meathead. \:D

My daughter does not eat meat and she eats all this protein shit. It tastes awful. Of course, she can eat what she wants, but I cannot understand how she can eat that boring, tasteless food all the time.


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Re: Something To Think About... [Re: Partagas] #428781
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 Originally Posted By: Partagas
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I'm not an animal lover.



So what are your definitions of "animal" and "lover" \:\)




Here you go: \:p

Animal: n. beast; living organism which is neither plant nor human.

Lover: n. one who loves; one who is loved; one who is involved in a sexual or romantic relationship with another; fan, devotee, one who is enthusiastic about something.


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Re: Something To Think About... [Re: afsaneh77] #428792
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I eat meat because it tastes good. End of story.


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 Originally Posted By: afsaneh77


Animal: n. beast; living organism which is neither plant nor human.

Lover: n. one who loves; one who is loved; one who is involved in a sexual or romantic relationship with another; fan, devotee, one who is enthusiastic about something.



So if someone is a lover of steak does that mean that they are enthusiastically involved in a sexual relationship with their steak? \:p



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Re: Something To Think About... [Re: afsaneh77] #429547
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 Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
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I'm not an animal lover.



So what are your definitions of "animal" and "lover" \:\)




Here you go: \:p

Animal: n. beast; living organism which is neither plant nor human.

Lover: n. one who loves; one who is loved; one who is involved in a sexual or romantic relationship with another; fan, devotee, one who is enthusiastic about something.


So then....

.....We can conclude that you will not have sex with a beast (I'm heart broken!)

.....We cannot conclude from your statements above if you will have sex with a dead organism or some sort of plant

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 Originally Posted By: afsaneh77


Animal: n. beast; living organism which is neither plant nor human.

Lover: n. one who loves; one who is loved; one who is involved in a sexual or romantic relationship with another; fan, devotee, one who is enthusiastic about something.



So if someone is a lover of steak does that mean that they are enthusiastically involved in a sexual relationship with their steak? \:p


Not necessarily, but I don't rule out the possibility. For instance if someone masturbates on their steak before eating it, it could be a sign that they are in sexual relationship with their steak. I would like to go into more detail, alas, I might be actually start thinking and I'd sworn I'd not think about this something that I'm encouraged to think about...


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Re: Something To Think About... [Re: Partagas] #429551
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 Originally Posted By: Partagas
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 Originally Posted By: Partagas
 Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
I'm not an animal lover.



So what are your definitions of "animal" and "lover" \:\)




Here you go: \:p

Animal: n. beast; living organism which is neither plant nor human.

Lover: n. one who loves; one who is loved; one who is involved in a sexual or romantic relationship with another; fan, devotee, one who is enthusiastic about something.


So then....

.....We can conclude that you will not have sex with a beast (I'm heart broken!)

.....We cannot conclude from your statements above if you will have sex with a dead organism or some sort of plant


I used to have more faith in your judgment. The only thing that one can conclude from my previous post is that I'm not devoted to living organisms which are neither plant nor human. Therefore it won't be hypocritical if I eat them.

That being said, although that was not clear in that post, I'll not have sex with you, because of entirely different set of reasons.


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Re: Something To Think About... [Re: afsaneh77] #429553
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 Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
 Originally Posted By: Partagas
 Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
 Originally Posted By: Partagas
 Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
I'm not an animal lover.



So what are your definitions of "animal" and "lover" \:\)




Here you go: \:p

Animal: n. beast; living organism which is neither plant nor human.

Lover: n. one who loves; one who is loved; one who is involved in a sexual or romantic relationship with another; fan, devotee, one who is enthusiastic about something.


So then....

.....We can conclude that you will not have sex with a beast (I'm heart broken!)

.....We cannot conclude from your statements above if you will have sex with a dead organism or some sort of plant


I used to have more faith in your judgment. The only thing that one can conclude from my previous post is that I'm not devoted to living organisms which are neither plant nor human. Therefore it won't be hypocritical if I eat them.

That being said, although that was not clear in that post, I'll not have sex with you, because of entirely different set of reasons.



Hey Hey Hey I am ecstatic that you ever had faith in my judgement \:\)

I was simply taking your statement and definitions to develop the conclusions

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 Originally Posted By: Partagas

I was simply taking your statement and definitions to develop the conclusions


Yeah, and that's the reason why I'll not have sex with you. You have a way with taking things and twisting them, you giant beast. \:p


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Re: Something To Think About... [Re: afsaneh77] #429555
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 Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
You have a way with taking things and twisting them, you giant beast. \:p

You don't like twisting? \:\/



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 Originally Posted By: J Geoff
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You have a way with taking things and twisting them, you giant beast. \:p

You don't like twisting? \:\/


Were you ever twisting baby? \:p No, it is his twisting that is a little too much for me. \:p


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Well, I just hope my "twisting" isn't a little too little for you.



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I'm willing to re-evaluate in future. \:p


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 Originally Posted By: J Geoff

On the contrary... "farm-raised" fish are specifically bred -- without the (supposed) "mercury problems" in real ("natural" = polluted)) waters...

Secondly, as far as all scientists know... fish have no emotions or feelings. And there's never been any fish species, as far as I know, even nearly on the verge of extinction... but...

Are there a lot of households that keep tuna or salmon or whatnot as pets??? \:p


It must be tough taking them for a walk.


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 Originally Posted By: J Geoff
 Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
You have a way with taking things and twisting them, you giant beast. \:p

You don't like twisting? \:\/


I tried twisting again like I did last summer
I tried twisting again like I did last year
You remember when things were really humming
So, it's okay - let's twist again like we did last year


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Re: Something To Think About... [Re: Don Rico] #429611
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 Originally Posted By: Don Rico

You can go into ANY major "super-market" and find whole aisles FULL of meat-substitutes, soy milk, veggie burgers, meatless frozen dinners and ALL KINDS of good stuff-- Right down your street!!!

And most of them taste BETTER or EXACTLY LIKE the animal-counterparts!!!



Ew, no. I've tried most of the substitutes, and they're all pretty much disgusting. I'll stick to my grilled cheese and Cheerio's, thanks.


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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
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Animal: n. beast; living organism which is neither plant nor human.

Lover: n. one who loves; one who is loved; one who is involved in a sexual or romantic relationship with another; fan, devotee, one who is enthusiastic about something.



So if someone is a lover of steak does that mean that they are enthusiastically involved in a sexual relationship with their steak? \:p



I wouldn't want to throw around the term "meat lover," but sure. Why not.

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This thread gives me the desire to consider cannibalism...



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