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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIA [Re: Buttmunker] #404124
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 Originally Posted By: Buttmunker
 Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra


Christopher making movies - we see an artificial work inside an artificial work, and Tony and Carmela drawing up different interpretations as to what Christopher intended or didn't intend with his portrayal of Tony in Cleaver


Speaking of "Cleaver," I wonder if they filmed an entire movie starring Baldwin as Boss - something that will be released to DVD sometime next year?


I would buy that! \:D


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I read somewhere that Cleaver did inspire a movie about a wiseguy rising from the dead....but I cant remember the name of the movie.....

Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIA [Re: Sopranorleone] #404129
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIA [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #404204
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 Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
For what it's worth, although I don't like them that much, I always eat onion rings whole....

.....But let's deconstruct things a little further, here, not to demystify that incredible final scene and prove what happened this way or that way; whether Tony lives or dies takes nothing away from the brilliance of that scene, and frankly, whether Tony lives or dies is besides the point.......

.......it's not even a question of whether or not Tony Soprano died, it's a question whether or not the scene worked.

Which it did, because I'm going to watch it again in a minute. \:\)



Capo, the above post may just be one of the best posts that you've ever made on these boards.



Bravo!



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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL [Re: Just Lou] #404285
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That is very interesting, though personally I think if Chase wanted us to know that Tony was dead, he would have shown it. The point of all the stuff that implies he was killed is to make us think Tony could have been shot but without us definitely knowing. Otherwise we'd have actually seen him get shot. A good post, just a bit long!


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL [Re: Raymondo Corleone] #404317
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JL, that's already been posted, in the last page of this thread. I posted a long reply to it, too.


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #404422
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 Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
JL, that's already been posted, in the last page of this thread. I posted a long reply to it, too.


You're right. Didn't see it. Sorry Neri.

Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL [Re: Just Lou] #404644
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I just re-watched "Blue Comet."

At the very ending, when Tony is at the safehouse and he lies in the bed, he is thinking and we are shown a flashback scene of he and Baccala talking in the boat about when you die and you probably don't hear it....

Re-watching that scene made me realize that people like that B. Harris writer are making it out to be more than it really is. It was nothing more than Tony being sad, thinking about Bobby. Tony probably hoping that Bobby didn't "hear it" or see it coming.

At least that's how I perceived it.



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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL [Re: Don Cardi] #404656
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Well, Bobby saw it and heard it coming, almost to the point of overkill. It reminded me of the Matt Bevilacqua hit in season 2, when Pussy and Tony just kept shooting and shooting.


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL [Re: pizzaboy] #404658
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Well, Bobby saw it and heard it coming, almost to the point of overkill. It reminded me of the Matt Bevilacqua hit in season 2, when Pussy and Tony just kept shooting and shooting.


speaking of Matt Bevilacqua, whatever happened with that actor after his arrest and conviction (?) for second-degree murder of that cop in 2005? Did he go to jail?

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He's still awaiting trial.

I have a friend at the Bronx county courthouse that tells me the prosecution is taking it's time with the case to make sure they get the conviction, being it involves the murder of a police officer.


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #404692
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Rewatching this episode again last night, I find Paulie's argument terribly ironic when he says, "I beat cancer! You have no idea what that does to a guy", which actually I think Tony could really relate to, considering he survived a gun shot wound. I thought it was another funny Paulie moment that I missed the first time around.


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL [Re: Raymondo Corleone] #405850
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 Originally Posted By: Raymondo Corleone
That is very interesting, though personally I think if Chase wanted us to know that Tony was dead, he would have shown it. The point of all the stuff that implies he was killed is to make us think Tony could have been shot but without us definitely knowing. Otherwise we'd have actually seen him get shot. A good post, just a bit long!


I don't think you can build up a character for 10 years and then show his death. It would be very hard to pull off correctly. I think we saw Tony die the only way we could have.




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Also, if Tony gets killed by an assassin in front of Meadow, how would that affect her life now that she's in denial about Tony's job?

Why would Tony be killed? Who would be behind it?

Something that annoys me is people saying everyone at the table got shot.

I thought the whole curse thing was great because it had been talked about on here before and I wondered if it was deliberate or even noticed by the writers.




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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #405970
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Who did Frank Pellegrino play on the show?


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 Originally Posted By: Paul Pisano
Who did Frank Pellegrino play on the show?


He was the FBI boss.



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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL [Re: Don Cardi] #406069
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Who was it that killed Phil?

Didn't he drive the same kind of car that Sil's assassins drove?


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Paulie really is nuts.

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Re: Made In America- Final Episode SPOILER MATERIAL [Re: Longneck] #406245
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 Originally Posted By: Longneck
 Originally Posted By: Raymondo Corleone
That is very interesting, though personally I think if Chase wanted us to know that Tony was dead, he would have shown it. The point of all the stuff that implies he was killed is to make us think Tony could have been shot but without us definitely knowing. Otherwise we'd have actually seen him get shot. A good post, just a bit long!


I don't think you can build up a character for 10 years and then show his death. It would be very hard to pull off correctly. I think we saw Tony die the only way we could have.


I don't think you can build up a character for 10 years and NOT show his death.

After all, FFC felt compelled to tack on the coda scene to GF III, and show Michael Corleone slumping out of his chair in 1997.

He could have just cut to black when they walk out of the opera house, as the assassin Mosca talks to the other priests coming out the door.


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 Originally Posted By: Longneck
I don't think you can build up a character for 10 years and then show his death. It would be very hard to pull off correctly. I think we saw Tony die the only way we could have.


I think you can actually - look at Christopher for example. I agree with Enzobaker, I think it's probably more difficult to build a character up for 10 years and then NOT show what happens to him!


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Has anyone ever seen this? It's a Sopranos dictionary for mobspeak. \:\)

http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/mobspeak/


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 Originally Posted By: olivant
Who was it that killed Phil?

Didn't he drive the same kind of car that Sil's assassins drove?


Walden Belfiore. His character was just introduced a few episodes back I believe. Not sure about the car.


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What about a Sopranos board game that allows one to select various endings to the series? You select a scenario that's listed on a card in one pile. But in another pile there are cards that state changes in family situations, personnel, who got whacked, who's sent to prison, etc. So, that can screw up your finale scenario and you have to go back a number os spaces. Based on all that, the winner is the one who lands on the finale square. Something like that.


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 Originally Posted By: olivant
What about a Sopranos board game that allows one to select various endings to the series? You select a scenario that's listed on a card in one pile. But in another pile there are cards that state changes in family situations, personnel, who got whacked, who's sent to prison, etc. So, that can screw up your finale scenario and you have to go back a number os spaces. Based on all that, the winner is the one who lands on the finale square. Something like that.

I've had this idea for a while....well, alright I'll tell you. Its...a jump to conclusions mat. See, its a mat with different conclusions that you could jump to.

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Kind of like a Sopranos/Twister combo.

Imagine playing Twister with Janice?

Good God.


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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Kind of like a Sopranos/Twister combo.

Imagine playing Twister with Janice?

Good God.

It's not naked twister is it?


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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
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Who did Frank Pellegrino play on the show?


He was the FBI boss.



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 Originally Posted By: Raymondo Corleone
 Originally Posted By: Longneck
I don't think you can build up a character for 10 years and then show his death. It would be very hard to pull off correctly. I think we saw Tony die the only way we could have.


I think you can actually - look at Christopher for example. I agree with Enzobaker, I think it's probably more difficult to build a character up for 10 years and then NOT show what happens to him!


Christopher was a major character but not the main character.

The GF series is what, 6-8 hours? Compared with 86 for the Sopranos?




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I'm kind of sad. I mean this is it. \:\( It ended, nothing sensational, it was the talk for a few days, we all got to choose the ending we wanted. Ho hum!!!! I don't feel the closure. \:\/

I'll just pretend it's between seasons, and after two years have passed they'll make the movie.
\:\)

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