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Re: Season 6B, Episode 8 ***Contains SPOILERS*** [Re: reynols] #397778
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 Originally Posted By: reynols



glad tony finally got tuff with aj playin the depression card



I agree. I turned to my wife during that scene and said "it's about time!"



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Re: Season 6B, Episode 8 ***Contains SPOILERS*** [Re: Ryno_Smith] #397779
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 Originally Posted By: Ryno_Smith
Bobby left his cell phone and gun in his car after a major hit on a boss of a family.
Obviously Bobby didn't know about it - the phone was ringing to warn him about it. \:p



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Very good episode! Though, it was very sad seeing Bobby go the way he did. Buying a model train, his hobby, and BANG, shot dead. Silvio is basically brain dead, that was tough to watch. Patsy sure looked scared running away, when's the last time ran? The scene with the Ukrainians was very violent. Very good episode.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 8 ***Contains SPOILERS*** [Re: olivant] #397782
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 Originally Posted By: olivant
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I really wouldn't be interested in an early 90's prequel. I do, however, think an "early years" movie focusing on Johnny and Junior Soprano, would be pretty interesting. They could set it in the 60's like A BRONX TALE. The storyline possibilities are endless. Throw in a kickass soundtrack a la BRONX TALE and I think it could be great.


I'd love a prequel. I'd like to see when Tony made the transition to mob guy.


I think that a prequel HBO series showing the early days of Junior and Johnny would be a big hit. They could really do a lot with a show like that.

I can't believe that next week is it, for good! \:\(



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Re: Season 6B, Episode 8 ***Contains SPOILERS*** [Re: J Geoff] #397783
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Great episode - but totally too disgusted right now (because the Yanks went from 4-0 to going behind 5-4 the inning after the Sopranos ended )



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Re: Season 6B, Episode 8 ***Contains SPOILERS*** [Re: J Geoff] #397784
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 Originally Posted By: J Geoff
 Originally Posted By: Ryno_Smith
Bobby left his cell phone and gun in his car after a major hit on a boss of a family.
Obviously Bobby didn't know about it - the phone was ringing to warn him about it. \:p


Actually he knew about it, the cousins came and was doing the hit before he went to the store, if he thought Phil was going to wacked and it would be over.

I am wondering how Tony feels about losing Bobby after finding out he is on Juniors side?

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 Originally Posted By: J Geoff

Great episode - but totally too disgusted right now (because the Yanks went from 4-0 to going behind 5-4 the inning after the Sopranos ended )


As I said above, they really are a mickey mouse crew. \:p ;\)



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Re: Season 6B, Episode 8 ***Contains SPOILERS*** [Re: J Geoff] #397787
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 Originally Posted By: J Geoff

Great episode - but totally too disgusted right now (because the Yanks went from 4-0 to going behind 5-4 the inning after the Sopranos ended )


Strange.... it didn't have that effect on me.


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Tony emptied the pool.

Wouldn't it be a fitting ending if Tony's crew gets wiped out, he loses his family, and he's sitting by the pool and the ducks come back? Ending the show the way that it originally began. With Tony and the ducks.



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Re: Season 6B, Episode 8 ***Contains SPOILERS*** [Re: Sopranorleone] #397790
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Man, where to begin. I'm still taking it all in.

I never thought of Bobby as being that bright anyway, so him leaving the gun/phone in the car didn't seem odd. He was basically a good and maybe too trusting. I felt bad seeing him go.

I hated to see Sil get shot, as he's being such a loyal friend to Tony. And yes Paulie seems to be the loyal one in the end. I would have guessed he'd have been taken out.

I think Tony needed to get tough with AJ due to the circumstances, and wonder if it'll toughen him (AJ) up knowing he has to protect Carm and Meadow, or make him withdraw further.

I didn't catch the Raging Bull reference (although I knew they were mimicing something) until you guys mentioned it. The music did sound GFish, but I couldn't quite make it out.

And I agree too with SC. Melfi dropping Tony like a hot potato was unethical IMHO. No matter what your patient has done, or how you feel about him personally, it seemed she still had an obligation to help him.

This episode was so fast pace it seems (and about 7 minutes shorter than an hour ) It just started and it was over. I guess a sign of how good it was (although sad).

I've been very disappointed only a few times to see one my favorite shows end, but especially this show, this week and this episode I really am feeling sad that this will be the end of the Soprano era. I will always remember it as one of the best shows in television (Cable) history.

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I loved the whole model train store setting. Loved seeing the little figures with their hands over their faces in shock, as if shielding themselves from the violence (ignoring SC's and DC's snide remarks about the Yankees).


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 Originally Posted By: Ryno_Smith

I am wondering how Tony feels about losing Bobby after finding out he is on Juniors side?


Way I see it, Bobby will always have an affection for Junior, after all the time he had to take care of him in earlier seasons. I think that Tony will realize this.

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I bet Tony also wished he now had guys like Ralphie, Chris, Vito, Tony. B.

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The more I think about this episode, the more I am angry with the way that the relationship between Tony and Melfi was handled. I feel that it was rather contrived, that it was very against her character, almost as if they had pulled the excuse out of thin air. I know that they've been building towards it over the last episode or two, mentioning the study, but it still seemed forced, and something that was completely out of character for Melfi.


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Tony was a fool. He thought that he was going to manipulate an old school mafioso like Phil. He totally underestimated him.

And where was little Carmine in all of this. Hmmmmmm.



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Re: Season 6B, Episode 8 ***Contains SPOILERS*** [Re: Sicilian Babe] #397796
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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
The more I think about this episode, the more I am angry with the way that the relationship between Tony and Melfi was handled. I feel that it was rather contrived, that it was very against her character, almost as if they had pulled the excuse out of thin air. I know that they've been building towards it over the last episode or two, mentioning the study, but it still seemed forced, and something that was completely out of character for Melfi.



I don't agree. Melfi has been contemplating dropping Tony for a few seasons now. Yes it was cold of her to drop him like that. But in the past she's been somewhat afraid of him. It was almost as if she kept treating him out of fear. This episode she seemed to have finally worked up the courage to stand up to him and basically tell him "Fuck you, I'm not afraid of you anymore."

The're showing us that NO ONE seems to be taking him serious anymore. That no one is afraid of him anymore.

It was an excellent scene. A fitting ending to their relationship.



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Re: Season 6B, Episode 8 ***Contains SPOILERS*** [Re: J Geoff] #397797
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It was sad to see Bobby go. To me he didn't fit the profile of a wiseguy. Otherwise, it's climatic as I expected.

I think that Tony will get Phil, but, as many of us have conjectured, Tony will lose what he holds most dear - his blood family. I think it could come about that after Phil is hit, the Feds grab Tony.

Did anyomne notice the last couple of episodes how Melfi and Sil put on weight? Of course, ya'll did hear the "glorified crew" remark that I've reference in a few posts.


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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
but it still seemed forced, and something that was completely out of character for Melfi.


It WAS out of character for Melfi but I think we saw another side of her.... her ego. She can't accept it that she was "fooled" by Tony's "illness".

Her stock went WAAAAAAY down in my book tonight (just as Tony's did when he killed Christopher).


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AJ is a little finocchio.

"What do you mean they shot uncle Bobby?"

What an asshole.



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Melfi definitely looked as if she's been snacking between patients, olivant.

I agree, DC, that she might have been angry with Tony, as well as angry at herself, but I still don't see her coming out of left field with this, just when his son is so sick. I can't imagine a competent doctor doing that to a patient that suffers from depression.


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When Tony was sitting in the safehouse on the bed, did anyone, just for a split second, get the feeling that he was going to put the gun in his mouth?

Speaking of the safehouse, did anyone notice the life sized cardboard cutout of Silvio in the background?



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I did see that, DC!! Btw, was that Livia's house??


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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe

I can't imagine a competent doctor doing that to a patient that suffers from depression.




She's not a competent doctor. She needed therapy herself. And in those sessiosn with her therapist all she mostly talked about was her having to treat Tony Soprano. She had her own issues.



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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
I did see that, DC!! Btw, was that Livia's house??


I was thinking that it was uncle junior's house.



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I'm not sure whose house, because it was at night. But wouldn't they have sold Uncle Jun's house to pay the bills for the home he's in??


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I did see that, DC!! Btw, was that Livia's house??


I was thinking that it was uncle junior's house.


I thought it was Livia's house, too, but either way (if it was Uncle Junior's) its ironic that Tony went to the home of someone he hated.


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I did see that, DC!! Btw, was that Livia's house??


I was thinking that it was uncle junior's house.


I thought it was Livia's house, too, but either way (if it was Uncle Junior's) its ironic that Tony went to the home of someone he hated.


He's still trying to get back on the bus!!


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I was wondering what house Tony was sitting in too. I didn't notice the cutout of Silvio.

As far as Melfi, I too think that she's been having doubts about treating him, partly due to Elliot, who kept trying to discourage her from treating him. I think the fact that everyone at the dinner table now knows she was seeing Tony was the icing on the cake. Also, that article/book she was reading about "criminals", if I understood correctly, made her think Tony was conning her which made her afraid????


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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
I'm not sure whose house, because it was at night. But wouldn't they have sold Uncle Jun's house to pay the bills for the home he's in??


I believe that they had already sold Livia's house.

Uncle Junior's house still may not have been sold. It was in this episode that Janice brought to light the fianacial situation that developed with Junior.

I'm thinking it was Junior's house.

Livia's stairs to go upstairs were right next to the entrance. Junior's were in the living room.

I'm going to re-watch it again right now.



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You could be right, DC. I don't remember it well enough.

OK, Off to sleep now. Just too worn out from that episode.


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