Ohhh ok!

The Godfather is a serious movie. The Sopranos is somewhat of a comedy.

"I'm gonna go listen to some Tony Bennett records."

I also think that killing Tony wasn't in Phil's plans. Everyone's house is someones house, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't the Boss' house... The Boss wouldn't have it. Also, Goodfellas is set in the 70's and 80's before DNA testing, the Sopranos takes place in the "lovely" here and now!



They would care if it was the Boss' house!



Why risk it when he could have just as easily lured Tony somewhere else for the meeting? The "cooler heads prevail" line from Phil could have just as easily been made in reference to one of their previous talks where Tony made the same comment... I think he made that comment to Phil a couple of times before. That's how I took it, as more of a jab at Tony. But as usual, I could be wrong! You just never really know with this character!

Cheers,
G.

Fellas,

I think it was Leotardo who acted like the dripping labia-and-a-couple-of-sides, there (apologies, Stallionette). Screaming from his top-floor bedroom, into the street? Women do that. It's a man who comes to collect (or pay) when he knows he must, with no summons necessary, of course...and, of course, Little Carmine just happened to be a useful tool of "getting in and getting heard." That's a line from Puzo, NOT Coppola or Scorsese, y'understand.
And I'm beginning to replay that scene of Silvio with his wife, from a recent previous season--it's Season 6, Part I, isn't it?--where he's considering his stature of Possible Boss. Maybe Carm will bring Silvio along, too; anything's possible, I agree.
I really, really DO expect Carmella to wind up with a Joker's Winning Hand, here, and I expect our WHOLE PERCEPTION OF HER ROLE AND CHARACTER to change, quite quickly and dramatically. Carbonera for everybody!! The end. Selah.

Okay,
Bobbo

Whilst Tony was beating Coco he had a look in his eyes we've never seen before, pure uncontrolled rage. We've certainly seen Tony commit come brutal acts, but while he was beating Coco (and talking to Carmine Jnr about the incident) he had a look of uncontrolable fury in his eyes, whereas every other time we've seen Tony commit acts of violence he's looked composed and almost life-less, except, maybe when he killed Ralphie.

After this epiosde, i can't help but feel Meadow is in line for something terrible happening to her. After all...

"When they come at you, they'll come at what you love..."

2 Hours isn't much time for a NY/NJ war at all, Not too many shocking things can happen while remaining realistic. I wouldn't expect more than 2 surprising things.

Really? Seemed good enough in the Godfather where the war doesn't start till an hour into the film.

Hey Longneck,

Totally OFF the subject, here, but I really dig that Thompson quote...which book did that one come from? One of my favorite writers of all time; and by far the most intelligent stoner and gambling addict in the history of the West, may rest in peace. Selah.

Okay,
Bobbo

Tony Soprano and Phil Leotardo seem way more hand's on than Michael Corleone ever was. Do Mob Bosses really get their asses in line to be shot at?

And all the time Tony used to go down the driveway to get his morning newspaper. Seems to me there never was any "peace-time" for this man. How easy would it be to have a sniper poised to take an easy shot at a big white target? Heck, Tony would go down in a bathrobe without a gun, so if someone was there, all he could do is try and run his fat ass up that hill back to his house. BANG. No more Tony.

Guess its a good thing he doesn't go down to get his paper anymore. And Carmela has the audacity to ask, "what are you afraid of? What's down there waiting for you, Tony?" Dumb ass.

Tony is no Michael Corleone. Michael was cool and calculating. Tony is hot headed like Sonny Corleone and we all know what happened to him.

I know.

What I meant was, Michael Corleone was always in the background, "pulling the strings," as opposed to Tony Soprano, who is never in the background.

If there is a war on the last two episodes of The Sopranos, me thinks Tony will be right there with all the main characters. No behind-the-scenes, for this dude.

The Sopranos has a lot more characters than The Godfather and with the show going for 7 seasons things are a lot more complicated and harder to wrap up in 2 hours.

Things have changed over the years. It is probably true that some dons are more hands-on these days. Then it may be that Vito and Michael were more removed from the action than was typical for dons even back then. Afterall, they are idealized characters.

Im sure Chase has something in mind. I was listening to Howard Stern because Steve Van Zandt was on and he said that the last two episodes are extremely violent. More so than what we have seen on the show before....sounds good!

Many of the Dons that aren't in the shadows are in the can or dead.

Seems to be the case....

Maybe they can do a Sopranos movie where Meadow can be Tony's lawyer in his RICO case, and the disarray the family would be in under different leadership on the street.

Just rewatched this episode; Coco's beating gives me so much satisfaction. It also happens to be one of the few episodes where the Family and family are given a great sense of balance; they're basically coming together, colliding, with Tony having to tell his guys about AJ's suicide, and Meadow being drunkenly harrassed.

I must say (and the same can be said for season four, too), that the second half of season six is much better the second time round.

For what it's worth, I agree; I'm pretty sure that Meadow doesn't tell Carm and Tony about Coco until the morning after. Tony's coming downstairs the following morning all dressed up to go out, when she tells him. I don't doubt that he had a meeting with Sil, but he was certainly rushing out the house, perhaps not to sicken himself anymore with what Meadow was telling him. There's a scene between Melfi and Eliot after that, and then it goes to Coco's restaurant.

Fantastic episode, by the way. Tony bringing AJ out of the pool was one of the most heartfelt moments in the show; a much needed one, I think, in light of what Tony did the week before, when he killed Chris.

As for Tony being a wuss, I'm not sure; he's definitely not as stubborn as Phil, and he was at least man enough to lose face and go to Phil's house (admittedly after Little Carmine brought him to his senses).

Kills a guy "like a son" to him one week, then saves his son the next week.

Maybe that's why The Sopranos is so entertaining

Someone remind me. What was Christopher and Tony's actual blood relationship, if any?

I believe that Chris was related to BOTH Tony and Carmela, in different ways of course. I have to check the book, then I'll post it.

No blood relationship.... Chris was Carmella's cousin.

Right...and the reason Tony calls Chrissy his nephew was becuase Dicky Moltisanti, Chrissy's father, was like a father-figure and mentor to Tony.

Bricks for sale. Gawd, is nothing sacred..haha.

http://www.comcast.net/tv/index.jsp?cat=TELEVISION&fn=/2007/08/09/735550.html

They expect them to go for $25-50 apiece!!

I love "The Sopranos" as much as the next guy but thats ABSOLUTELY CRAZY! (I went to see the store a few years back).

Remind me. Was it in the last season that Phil got out of jail?

Didn't he first appear at the start of Season 5.

That is correct. In fact, that episode (Two Tonys) is on tonight on A&E.