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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: BDuff] #394597
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Another good episode. AJ's suicide attempt, although maybe not totally shocking that he might be thinking suicide, still was an OMG moment. His haphazard attempt leads me to believe he really didn't want to do it. Did anyone else laugh when Tony runs outside and sees AJ with plastic over his head? Ha ha Tony says "AJ, what the fuck?" Cracked me up for some reason.

The sleezeball that approached Meadow (forgot his name) pissed me off too. I sure would hate someone talking to my daughter like that. But, yea Tony went over the edge there too with teeth in his pant cuff and all.

This episode was definitely more about family and with both the kids, especially AJ's experience, it's confirmed that in spite of being a dickhead, Tony does love his family.

Oh, and the Feds again asking about the MidEastern guys and Tony IDing them. It HAS to be Tony will if "caught" get a lighter sentence. I can't see the story developing in two more episodes, so conclude that must be the purpose of these quick questions by the Feds.

Anyone have opinions of how this Feech thing will end up. Oh, and one more thing, who is it that Meadow is dating???? Refresh my memory please.

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Good episode tonight, not great just good. Looks like all signs of peace between NY and NJ are gone after Tony curb stomped Coco. AJ screws up suicide? I could have told you that! Tony ashamed of AJ, what a great father . Phil can't come down stairs to reconsile with Tony? He was acting like a 12 year old girl, yelling at Little Carmine and Tony. I see a major blowup between the two next week.

Only two episodes...what does Chase have in store?


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: BDuff] #394600
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By the way, for those who weren't watching HBO before the beginning of tonight's episode. They said that The Sopranos won't be on next week, but will return June 3. \:\( Nothing like stretching it out.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #394601
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He's Patsy's kid.

Refresh mine: what Feech thing?

Could this be a GF setup: Michael Corleone takes on the family's enemies and is victorious. In the same mold, Tony takes on Phil and comes out on top.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #394602
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 Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
By the way, for those who weren't watching HBO before the beginning of tonight's episode. They said that The Sopranos won't be on next week, but will return June 3. Nothing like stretching it out.


They usually don't air new episodes on a holiday weekend.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: olivant] #394603
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 Originally Posted By: olivant
He's Patsy's kid.

Refresh mine: what Feech thing?

Could this be a GF setup: Michael Corleone takes on the family's enemies and is victorious. In the same mold, Tony takes on Phil and comes out on top.



Sorry, I meant Phil L. Don't know why Feech came out. Wasn't that him yelling out the window at the end? What is he up to?

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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #394605
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 Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
I meant Phil L. ... Wasn't that him yelling out the window at the end? What is he up to?


The little Shah of Iran was afraid Tony would beat him up (if he came outside).


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: olivant] #394606
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Phil will wack someone in Tony's family. Guarantee...

I think it may be Bobby

Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: Ryno_Smith] #394608
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Warning, Spoiler:
I read a while ago that Bobby will be killed in an episode called Blue Comet. He will be hit coming out of a hobby shop, which makes sense, since Blue Comet is the name of a model train.


As for Phil shouting out the window, did anyone else get a Monty Python feel? If Tony had yelled up to Phil that he was there for the Holy Grail!!


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: Sicilian Babe] #394611
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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Warning, Spoiler:
I read a while ago that Bobby will be killed in an episode called Blue Comet. He will be hit coming out of a hobby shop, which makes sense, since Blue Comet is the name of a model train.


As for Phil shouting out the window, did anyone else get a Monty Python feel? If Tony had yelled up to Phil that he was there for the Holy Grail!!


Well, the previews show Janis for the first time in awhile. So, maybe Bobby does get hit. And what about Sil telling Tony that someone is playing both sides? Who? Carmine? Hey, and don't forget that Paulie once cozied up to the NY family.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: olivant] #394613
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 Originally Posted By: olivant
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Warning, Spoiler:
I read a while ago that Bobby will be killed in an episode called Blue Comet. He will be hit coming out of a hobby shop, which makes sense, since Blue Comet is the name of a model train.


As for Phil shouting out the window, did anyone else get a Monty Python feel? If Tony had yelled up to Phil that he was there for the Holy Grail!!


Well, the previews show Janis for the first time in awhile. So, maybe Bobby does get hit. And what about Sil telling Tony that someone is playing both sides? Who? Carmine? Hey, and don't forget that Paulie once cozied up to the NY family.


Yea, I wonder too about who's playing both sides???? Paulie does come to mind though. As far as Bobby, could be, but I'd feel kind of sorry for him if he did get whacked.

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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #394618
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I think it is Patsy playing both sides b/c he has a grude with tony about killing his brother and about being passed over for captain for chrissy.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: hova4ever9] #394622
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 Originally Posted By: hova4ever9
I think it is Patsy playing both sides b/c he has a grude with tony about killing his brother and about being passed over for captain for chrissy.


If I were to choose one who fit next episode's guy who is playing both sides I'd pick Patsy, too.

Think of the possibilities that opens up .... Tony whacks Patsy, his son Patrick finds out and tells Meadow (or worse, kills Meadow)...

Anyway, kudos to Patrick for standing up to Coco; Finn would have shit his pants. Kudos to Tony, too, for pounding Coco.


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Paulie hasnt said or been mention much outside of the coffee maker he gave tony. that has been his polt contributions in the last few episodes


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: hova4ever9] #394625
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Is there any truth to the rumor that next week's episode is 90 minutes, and the final episode might be up to 2 hours?

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 Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Is there any truth to the rumor that next week's episode is 90 minutes, and the final episode might be up to 2 hours?


I saw on one website that the next episode (#85 entitled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee") is 2½ hours long. Dunno how accurate that info is because it MAY be confused with an HBO special about Wounded Knee (which looks pretty good).


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 Originally Posted By: SC

I saw on one website that the next episode (#85 entitled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee") is 2½ hours long. Dunno how accurate that info is because it MAY be confused with an HBO special about Wounded Knee (which looks pretty good).


I thought the next episode was titled "The Blue Comet", and the final episode was "Going Home".

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 Originally Posted By: SC
 Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Is there any truth to the rumor that next week's episode is 90 minutes, and the final episode might be up to 2 hours?


I saw on one website that the next episode (#85 entitled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee") is 2½ hours long. Dunno how accurate that info is because it MAY be confused with an HBO special about Wounded Knee (which looks pretty good).


Next Episode - "Blue Comet"
Final Episode- "Made in America"

Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee is an HBO special special, not the Sopranos. The final two episodes will be both be an hour long.


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This was a so so episode. A.J trying to kill himself and Tony making the comment that the rope was too long was funny. Suicide is never funny and should be taken seriously. Carmela was a true ass having no sympathy for Tony or his illness which is no joke, she is even blaming him for A.J. since it is hereditary. Phil is acting like a fool. It was nice to see little Carmine again.


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I know, I wasn't gonna speculate, but hey, sue me. , but knowing there are only two episodes left, does anyone feel that it'll end with:

1) Tony dying
2) Tony & Carm splitting
3) Tony helping the Feds with the Mid-Eastern guys will somehow spare Tony somewhat

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My theory is that once Tony goes to war with Phil, New York will quickly kill most of Tony's men, leaving Tony alone. Tony will need protection and since he helped Agent Harris, the FBI could provide that. He spills the beans on what New York is doing, who they've killed and their buisness operations. Tony, Carmela,AJ, and Meadow go into Witness Protection.


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I agree with BDuff to a degree. I think the Soprano family, mob family that is, will be pretty much purged. All of the signs are pointing that way. I think Tony will probably survive as a shell of his once powerful self. I don't know about him cooperating but you never know.

Pretty good episode. I liked Patsy's kid sticking up for Meadow, that was nice. I think Little Carmine will turn out to be the one playing both sides. AJ's suicide attempt was on alot of the spoiler threads on other sites but I think it may very well have been a lucky guess. You really had to see that one coming.

Meadow deciding on law school instead of medical school, to me, is her way of telling Tony that she is a Soprano. Not that she could ever take on a Lady Macbeth-Connie Corleone type of role in the family business, just that she has contempt for the criminal justice system, as does her family.

Tony's proud of her, he loves her, that's why I'm starting to believe he might lose her. Whether it's through her death or her finding out something terrible about him, it would be a fitting end to the tragedy.

I've always felt that The Sopranos were Shakesperean, I now feel they're a Shakesperean tragedy. Something terrible is going to happen. With just 2 more shows to go, I expect lots to happen in the June 3rd episode. The finale on June 10th should be something else.


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How about Melfi's shrink refering to the study that theropy does not help a sociopath, but enables or justifies his actions.

Melfi may change her treatment approach and add to the spiral downward.

Did you notice her reaction to Tony when he said

"Why me , I'am a good person"

Best line of the season, and he really believes it


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I still say that AJ is getting more and more to be like Tony. Going to therapy. Happy one week, depressed the next. Gets off seeing people hurt, is upset by it the next. Suicidal tendancies and now the kid has the "blame the mother" syndrome. Sound familiar?



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 Originally Posted By: Daigo Mick Friend
How about Melfi's shrink refering to the study that theropy does not help a sociopath, but enables or justifies his actions.


I forgot about that line. It's actually very important. Last week Tony seems to have started to embrace his dark side instead of fighting it. This pretty much adds up to what Melfi's shrink said.


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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

I think Little Carmine will turn out to be the one playing both sides.


Either him or Patsy Parisi. Most likely Carmine, he is still in some way or another apart of the Lupertazzi Family and will have to remain loyal. Phil would have had him killed by now if he wasn't. As for Patsy, he's never liked Tony since he had Philly killed and gave Chris the vacant Capo spot even though Patsy had senority. Though I think both will be dead when all is said and done.


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Well, Chase has certainly laid enough land mines along the way tokeep us guessing about any betrayals and certainly about whatwill happen. It must also be kind of a struggle for an author: how to end things. Does Chase make Tony a hero? Does Tony get what's coming to him as a bad guy should? As I posted above, when Tony is fighting off the "bad guys", I'm for him (like Michael killing the heads of hte five families). But everything changes when he is just being a criminal. I dunno.


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i thought it was a pretty good episode. i cant believe no one mentioned the reference to Goodfellas: Tony walking up to Coco and beating him with the hilt of the gun almost exactly the way Henry did to that guy in Goodfellas. thats what i thoguht anyways. i wouldve killed him personally if it was my daughter but.... lol


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It was mentioned that Frank John Hughes was in the episode. Who did he play? Hughes is known for his role as Bill Guarnere in band of brothers.


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I was a little surprised that Tony went after that guy. Afterall, he is a boss. Anything could have gone wrong. But reality has to give way to screenplays, I guess.


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