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Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Episode Title- "The Second Coming"
Plot Description- Phil refuses Tony's offer of a compromise; AJ worries about the world and his future; an affront to Meadow angers Tony.- TV Guide
Possible start of NJ/NY Mafia war?
Tony angry with a remark made about Meadow?
AJ still depresses (possible suicide)?
"When my time comes, tell me, will I stand up?"
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Maybe it's all going in the direction that so many of us have speculated it is: Tony's loses his family and, thus, everything. It'd be poetic justice if that is true. (Up until last week's episode I don't think I would have said that). Very "Godfather Part II" ish.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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By the way the "final nine" has gone it seems to me Chase intends on leaving a few loose ends in order to make a movie. Doesn't mean I haven't enjoyed, it's been great, but I doubt Chase leaves "The Sopranos" for good after this.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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By the way the "final nine" has gone it seems to me Chase intends on leaving a few loose ends in order to make a movie. Doesn't mean I haven't enjoyed, it's been great, but I doubt Chase leaves "The Sopranos" for good after this. It all boils down to what happens to Tony. If he's gonna be around, they can make one. IMHO - No Tony, no movie.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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By the way the "final nine" has gone it seems to me Chase intends on leaving a few loose ends in order to make a movie. Doesn't mean I haven't enjoyed, it's been great, but I doubt Chase leaves "The Sopranos" for good after this. It all boils down to what happens to Tony. If he's gonna be around, they can make one. IMHO - No Tony, no movie. Well Duh...  I'm sure most of the immeadiate family will survive and one of Tony's main guys (Either Silvio or Paulie NOT both). Plus the FBI guys and KABLAM, you got yourself a movie!
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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When you think about it, there are only two ways it can go: Tony gets his or he doesn't. Now, how he gets it or doesn't can happen in an infinite number of ways. I find myself wanting justice for al those he murdered, had murdred, or let me murdered. For me, that comes in the form of his loss of his wife and kids - their deserting him. he murdered Chris (Carmela) and he did not prevent Jackie Jrs. murder (Meadow). That leaves AJ. But Aj still has this rather pristine view of his father - he really hasn't thought of him as a murderer. So, knowledge of the former two murders could do it. I agree Olivant. I've always felt that if Carmela and/or Meadow were to find out that Tony sanctioned Jackie Jr's murder, they would abandon him. However, over the last few years, Carmela has grown even MORE fond of her lavish lifestyle, terrified of losing it, and Meadow has drifted more into denial about her father. So who knows ? Tony losing his family would be the ultimate punishment for him. I just don't know which way it's gonna go.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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When you think about it, there are only two ways it can go: Tony gets his or he doesn't. Now, how he gets it or doesn't can happen in an infinite number of ways. I find myself wanting justice for al those he murdered, had murdred, or let me murdered. For me, that comes in the form of his loss of his wife and kids - their deserting him. he murdered Chris (Carmela) and he did not prevent Jackie Jrs. murder (Meadow). That leaves AJ. But Aj still has this rather pristine view of his father - he really hasn't thought of him as a murderer. So, knowledge of the former two murders could do it. *GASP* Kidding.... I agree, its gotta go either Tony getting his or not. It will be very interesting to see which one and how.....
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Anyone think that Phil Leotardo might just take over North Jersey? Remember last season Tony warned Chris that war with NY would be bad because they have over 200 soldiers? Phil could just have everyone killed and move his guys in to take over. I would hate to see Phil survive, but I think that idea could happen.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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I think there are four Capos....
Carlo Gervasi
Bobby Baccala
Patsy Parisi (Since Chris is dead)
Larry Barese
Though Ray Curto and Feech LaMann were Capos too yet once they died their crews went away. I think the Aprile Crew is extinct by this point.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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I think there are four Capos....
Carlo Gervasi
Bobby Baccala
Patsy Parisi (Since Chris is dead)
Larry Barese
Though Ray Curto and Feech LaMann were Capos too yet once they died their crews went away. I think the Aprile Crew is extinct by this point. Isn't Carlo the capo of the former "Aprile Crew?" If I remember correctly, Gigi took over after Richie consummated his engangement, then Ralph took over after Gigi tried to pass some gas, then Vito took over after Ralph lost his head, then Tony bumped Carlo up since he was doing well at the ports after Phil came out of Vito's motel closet. Shh...what an unlucky crew to be captain of...its like a death sentance. And dont forget good ol' wingdigs is a captain too!! 
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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No, Carlo is head of Jimmy Alterlies old crew. He's been a Capo since season four. Carlo got control of Vito's areas such as Espeland Construction once Vito was a dead. It's stated on HBO.com that Paulie is Underboss. So I guess the hierarchy in the family are so...
Boss- Tony Soprano
Consigliere- Silvio Dante
Underboss- Paulie Walnuts
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2. Bobby Bacala
3. Patsy Parisi
4. Larry Barese
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1. Aprile Crew
2. LeMann Crew
3. Curto Crew
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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No, Carlo is head of Jimmy Alterlies old crew. He's been a Capo since season four. Carlo got control of Vito's areas such as Espeland Construction once Vito was a dead. It's stated on HBO.com that Paulie is Underboss. So I guess the hierarchy in the family are so...
Boss- Tony Soprano
Consigliere- Silvio Dante
Underboss- Paulie Walnuts
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1. Carlo Gervasi
2. Bobby Bacala
3. Patsy Parisi
4. Larry Barese
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1. Aprile Crew
2. LeMann Crew
3. Curto Crew
Oh, yes. Thanks for clearing that up. Paulie an underboss?!?!? 
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Well I loved Deadwood and the creator of Deadwood has a new show called "John from Cincinatti". It premiers after the Sopranos finale  . I'll give it a look.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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AJ worries about the world and his future The world? Dare I speculate?
"an affront to Meadow angers Tony"???? I wonder who and what???  And what he'll do. Another whacking? Don't know what to conclude, but I am curious. TIS Oh,, and yes Olivant, I have thought about the Sopranos withdrawal syndrome.  It's the highlight of my Sunday night. I am really gonna miss it. 
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Feech at one point was the boss of what is now Tony's family -- Paulie talked about "the Feech LaManna days in the 1970s" two episodes ago.
It is supposedly called the "Lupertazzi Family," right??
I think also at this point, Bobby Baccala ranks Paulie.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Feech at one point was the boss of what is now Tony's family -- Paulie talked about "the Feech LaManna days in the 1970s" two episodes ago.
It is supposedly called the "Lupertazzi Family," right??
I think also at this point, Bobby Baccala ranks Paulie. The Lupertazzi Family is the NY Family...
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Dunno what to make of tonight's episode. I have to watch it again, but I'm confused.... did Tony beat up the right guy?? I thought Coco was the one who tried to stop Lupo from talking to Meadow.... (Edit: Never mind... I just re-watched that scene; Tony got the right guy  ) Paulie's speech about today's kids getting poisoned by the environment (when talking about AJ) hit home... the Soprano Family is dumping all the shit (asbestos) whereever they want... of course its gonna leech into the environment.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 7 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Well, well, well. That was interesting. Some great moments. Tony as the protective dad, pulling AJ out of the pool and into his lap. First reacting with anger, and then with love, like many parents. Beating the crap out of the guy who talked to Meadow that way.
Some very funny moments as well - the most memorable? The tooth.
Btw, he and Carm seem to be throwing way more crap at one another lately.
Edit: SC, I thought of that as well, with the asbestos. I also thought it was interesting that they all had typical suburban kids: ADHD, depression, anorexia, and so on.
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