Just calling them as I see them Don T. Thanks for the attack!
I don't hide, I don't lie and I'm not in the closet either!
I don't care what the color of your skins is, when you are a piece of shit you are getting called on it.
After all I have seen you start enough threads with rants on so many subjects I think you would know all about such things.


Don T what do you think: Yes or no?

Thanks Snake, I always wanted to be thought of as a bigot by you.

you rotten Yankee!

Yes Ronnie, just call me nappy!

I get a little uneasy when you agree with me fatherson. Maybe I have to sit and think about this issue some more!

Here is a few more things to think about:
We now know that they are making a big thing out of Imus because they get news coverage, which they don't get if they criticize Rap stars or black comedians.

Also that the Players have already been programed with large planned out statements. If may have noticed this on the Today show when the coach prodded her player which then let into a long spiel.

The Black Caucus has called all Imus's sponsors and put pressure to pull their adds or face major boycotts from the black community. Those fueling the fire.

So all this is really a campaign to bring this issue once again to the people. Now who is getting hurt besides Imus and the people who work on his show? Well, if things weren't blown out of proportion almost no one would have even given Imus's words the time of day, which is what happens every day of the week. Now these ladies will be known for the Imus issue and very little else.

This issue has gone way over board. Everyone knows that what Imus said was foolish but what else is new. They call them shock jocks for a reason. Do what we all do now, Don't turn Imus on your radio. We all know he is even crappy as a shock jock.


One local BLACK MINISTER told our local reporters that if every person who used these terms or said such foolish things lost their jobs then the black and Hispanic community here would all be out of work. Showing a true double standard in the country.

This story has gotten out of control.

I bet Imus' ratings have gone up....only to see him pissing and moaning about it.

I think it's the proverbial mountain-out-of-a-molehill, that's all. I think there are far worse wrongs than someone being "offended" by an off-the-cuff remark. Many predatory black leaders (Sharpton, Jackson, et. al.) play the race card so often that when there's a real racial injustice going on, a lot of people just don't care anymore. And as far as the "degraded women" thing goes, why isn't everyone up in arms over the way in which women are portrayed and exploited in porn, television, movies, songs, etc., etc., etc.? In my opinion, these mediums do far worse because they instill images and philosophies in impressionable young minds. But rather than rail against that, we pick a racy (but I don't think "racial") comment by some moron and blow it all out of proportion. As fathersson noted, now this poor basketball team will forever be associated with Imus. Had nobody harped on it, it would've been quickly forgotten.

If Imus suffers repercussions, fine and dandy. But to act like what he said was so taboo and catastrophic is, imho, going waaaay overboard,

Snake, you are starting to sound like you may be a bigot.


Sign, First Time Bigot
and didn't know it.

I'm "bigot th' mouth"...we got some women down here who are "bigot th' hips."

Lets consider something else here, and forget Sharpton and Jackson. Those guys are fish in a barrel. When Trent Lott made his intemperate comments about Strom Thurmond, and when Rush Limbauugh made his comments about Donovan McNabb there was a virtual firestorm in the white mainstream media calling for their heads. Same thing happened to Jimmy the Greeek and Al Campanis years ago.

If you look at who appears on Imus' show as regular guests, it is a who's who of the white media establishment, many of whom are falling over themselves telling Imus he can redeem himself etc. etc. In other words these people are his enablers (see today's Wall Street Journal Op Ed) and they are happy to get him off the hook with a two week suspension so they can all go back on his show, pontificate, promote their books and television shows and otherwise maintain their high profiles. sHouldnt Imus be subject to the same sanctions and criticism as Limbaugh and the others?

I never said it was catastrophic! Dear Lord, I certainly wouldn't term anything of this nature as catastrophic. It would make me as stupid as Imus was for saying it. That does not mean that it wasn't degrading and it doesn't mean it wasn't wrong.

As for porn and rap, etc., I think that they are degrading and I do rail against their portrayal of women. That doesn't make Imus right.

I tend to agree. No one, other than Ann Coulter and her band of hate spewing followers, was bending over backwards to promote their books or television shows on Limbaugh's show. So you're right, Imus' "enablers" would hardly be willing to kill the high profile, free publicity juggernaut, that is Imus' morning show.

I missed this thread, but...

Rap is degrading?

Rap is about as degrading to women as rock music was in its worst days. So lets just say, rap doesn't bother me(though hacks like 50 Cent sorta do.)

Yes, any medium that refers to women as bitches and ho's is degrading to women.

Uh oh, Dave Chappelle is in TROUBLE!

Incorrect. Any rap song which is degrading to women is degrading to women. That's a very reductive generalisation of a style of musical form you (I can only presume) don't listen to.

I admittedly knew very little about Imus. Since this hullaboo I did some research. His "show" has hit on things like:
- Beating up fa***ts.
- Knocking over Jewish tombstones.
- Setting homeless bums on fire.
- Anderson Cooper taking it in the poop shoot.
- Obama as a colored man.
- Wish that some "sissy" on American Idol be the victim of a vicious hate crime.
- Shaving Rosie O'Donnell's bush, you'd need a weed wacker.

This "nappy head" comment was picked up by ESPN and thus it hit the nation's attention. But really, this guy has been doing bigotry for years and no one has really cared! There is a loyal audience that buys into everything he says. There is a larger issue to this Imus thing.

I've said it before: we are turning into a Nation of wimps. I wish I had a damn nickel for every time I was called a Dago or a Wop, or even a Guinea which is stupid because I'm not Sicilian. Christ, did I cry on someone's shoulder? Maybe, when I was six. You suffer life's slings and arrows. It's part of maturity. You don't go public seeking someone to assuage your feelings.

"I don't care how many - - daigo guinea WOP greaseball gumbahs come out of the woodwork!"

"I'm German-Irish..."

"Well let me tell you something my Kraut Mick friend."

Deep in the heart of Texas...

Paul would be loving this subject matter. Boy, he is really missed.

Ergo, either we should have censorship across the cultural-ethnic-political-social board and shut people like him up, or everyone else should shutup and forget about it. And why is it when certain folks say something equally as "offensive" (which is subjective anyway) as what Imus said and there's an outcry, everyone casting stones is told to "forgive-and-forget" and "judge not," blah-blah-blah...? There's one thing I find more outrageous than anything any single moron can verbally SAY: the glaring contradictory standards and values in this screwed-up world. Imus did everything but set himself on fire and STILL there are those who wanna keep the racial fires burnin' (one who proclaims himself a "reverend"....yeah, right!).

I don't know what the "larger issue" is, SB, unless it's some vast, right-wing, white media conspiracy thing, which some apparently believe in.

But these women didn't go public. They are meeting with Imus privately . The media are going to them, but they can't help that.

They are not seeking pity or solace from others. In fact, it shows they are mature by meeting Don Imus face to face and discussing his racist and sexist comments, which were broadcast throughout the country on his radio and television program. They deserve an apology and explanation.

Just remember that despite what they say Sharpton and Jackson DO NOT represent the black community. Ask around!



No, the larger issue as Americans we tune in to that kind of puke, and even invite it into our minds! What a hypocrite degraded culture this is! These are our family values?

Is my boycott working? Guess not, never heard of him before...

Christ! What's wrong with you? What the hell was that press conference about on national TV. Who were those uniform clad people on the dais? Who were those uniformed people addressing the reporters. Who were those uniformed people on several talk show? Private? Not being there is private. That's what's called private.

I'm certainly beginning to wish I'D never heard of him before!