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Re: The '07 Season [Re: ap_capone48101] #383165
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I just went back and watched it. He had rubber gloves on, although there is a part in the scene where it looks like he isn't wearing them.

Re: The '07 Season [Re: ap_capone48101] #383166
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The previews portend a slugfest between NY & NJ. And where is Christopher?


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Re: The '07 Season [Re: olivant] #383167
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Perhaps Chris is in California on movie business.


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Re: The '07 Season [Re: pizzaboy] #383168
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The gloves are latex. He doesn't have them on until he enters the laundry room.

What significance is there to it being Bobby's first hit?


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Re: The '07 Season [Re: pizzaboy] #383170
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Just watched the west coast feed (to see the show again... even though I DVR'd it).... What an excellently made show this is.

Seeing Bobby Bacala come back after the shooting and picking up his daughter... what must have been going through his mind. A great ending!


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Re: The '07 Season [Re: olivant] #383171
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 Originally Posted By: olivant

What significance is there to it being Bobby's first hit?


Wouldn't it be a trip if the guy he killed was Janice's son, Harpo? Harpo's father was French-Canadian and Harpo was a guitar player. \:o


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Re: The '07 Season [Re: SC] #383172
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 Originally Posted By: SC

Wouldn't it be a trip if the guy he killed was Janice's son, Harpo? Harpo's father was French-Canadian and Harpo was a guitar player. \:o


This was actually suggested in another forum, but the name of the character that was killed is "Rene LaCours".

Re: The '07 Season [Re: SC] #383174
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 Originally Posted By: SC
Bobby had to get rid of the gun.

...and there was no where else to leave it, in the wilderness of upstate NY? I'd've tossed it into the woods or lake myself... But in retrospect, I suppose you don't want the Feds doing more searching than need be - so I guess leaving the gun was proper...




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Re: The '07 Season [Re: J Geoff] #383175
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Bobby had to get rid of the gun.

...and there was no where else to leave it, in the wilderness of upstate NY? I'd've tossed it into the woods or lake myself...


And run the risk of getting stopped while crossing the border (with the gun) back into New York??


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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: SC] #383176
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Added my P.S. first, after thinking about it ;\) In addition, I didn't quite remember they were in Canada. Yet, even more wilderness, but still, why make them search and find your home across the lake... it was the smart move after all ;\)

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Re: The '07 Season [Re: SC] #383185
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I read something like that also on another forum, however, isn't Harpo in Seattle? Anyway good episode, I laughed so hard when Chris called Tony, but he hung up immediatley!


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Re: The '07 Season [Re: SC] #383196
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 Originally Posted By: SC
What an excellently made show this is.

Seeing Bobby Bacala come back after the shooting and picking up his daughter... what must have been going through his mind. A great ending!


I'll tell you what he was thinking. Tony made it a choice for Bobby. Without verbally saying it, he told Bobby that either you kill this guy or you're a gonner yourself. And in Bobby's mind that meant that either his children would never see their father again or this guy's kid would never see him again.

That hit was based on the fact the there was a child custody battle going on which clearly upset Bobby when he was told the details.

When Bobby returns from the hit, he realizes that by killing this guy, the guy would never see his kid again. He realized that by his killing this guy, he, unlike this guy, was able to return home to his own daughter once again.

Bobby realized that he himself had come close to winding up like this guy that he just killed and would not have been able to see his own daughter ever again had he not done this hit.

When he went right over to her when he returned to the house, it was an

"Oh boy, thank God! I can't even imagine never being able to ever see and hold you ever again"

feeling that Bobby resonated to me in that scene.






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Re: The '07 Season [Re: Don Cardi] #383201
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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi

When Bobby returns from the hit, he realizes that by killing this guy, the guy would never see his kid again. He realized that by his killing this guy, he, unlike this guy, was able to return home to his own daughter once again.


The dead guy had a kid?


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Re: The '07 Season [Re: SC] #383209
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So how accurate were the AICN "Spoilers" from weeks back anyhow?

Re: The '07 Season [Re: SC] #383225
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 Originally Posted By: SC
 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi

When Bobby returns from the hit, he realizes that by killing this guy, the guy would never see his kid again. He realized that by his killing this guy, he, unlike this guy, was able to return home to his own daughter once again.


The dead guy had a kid?



When Bobby and Tony meet with those guys about the prescription drug deal, they give Bobby and Tony a price per pill. One of them mentions to Tony that his sister is having a problem with her husband over child custody. Tony negotiates a better price on the prescription drugs and tells the guy that they'll take care of his problem. Then when they leave Tony says to Bobby, "You'll take care of this, right? No bow and arrows." and Bobby says "Sure."

The guy that Bobby kills is the brother in-law of one of the two guys that they met with, the one who is giving the drug dealer's sister a hard time over custody of their kid. Bobby even looks at a picture of the guy with his wife and kid right before he kills him.


Question: Anyone see the credits list a Dominic Chianese JR. who plays a character named Dominic?



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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Don Cardi] #383227
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There is no way that the Boss of a Mob family can let one of his people, brother in-law or not, get away with physically hitting him the way Bobby did Tony.

I still don't see Tony letting Bobby get away with this.



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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Don Cardi] #383228
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Finally!!! This episode kept my interest throughout. While most of the regulars were absent this week, I think the attention was drawn to mostly Tony and his feelings about aging, family, and not really knowing how he'll end up.

It started out good from his arrest (btw what is a hollow point bullet and why is it worse than any other?)

Also, When Carm was telling about the 3 year old drowning (per Tony's request), Tony said, "I can't get that story out of my mind, I don't know why." I wonder if that's perhaps a sign of something to come. Will someone drown?

The monopoly game turned out to be a disaster though. Tony's age seemed to be really bothering him (obviously). He later said that he lost his footing and that's why Bobby "won". I will have to check it again, because I didn't notice he lost his footing.

I think someone else implied,and I agree that Bobby really had no choice but to kill that kid in the laundramat, or he'd be dead meat. Good point about the hidden camera, and I too wonder about Bobby's ripped shirt. I don't see Bobby as a cold blooded killer (obviously I'm wrong)

The two guys that Tony/Bobby were making the pill deal with though, I'm wondering if they might be some kind of plant. I don't know that I'd trust them for some reason.

Don't know if it's because this is the last season, or because it's been so damn long since I've seen a new episode, or if I'm just darn easy to please, or if it was just good, but I did enjoy this episode.

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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #383231
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I enjoyed it also TIS, and got the same out of it that you did as far as Tony and his starting to be bothered by his age, thinking about kids, family, and where he'll wind up.

The last episode of last season ended with a "family" atmosphere. In that episode when Tony goes to visit Phil in the hospital, he tells Phil that when he recovers from his heart attack he should start worrying more about the family and the grandkids. Then in this episode we hear Phil tell his guys that he's going to start paying more attention to his grandkids.

Chase definitely has established a family mentality for the final episodes of this show. What he's up to with that, only time will tell. ;\)



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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Don Cardi] #383241
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I agree DC. I think that Chase might be setting us up for major tragedy by allowing Tony to finally be in a place where he can enjoy his home life, making it all the more tragic if something were to happen to any of them.


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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: pizzaboy] #383248
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Keep in mind too the RICO case the Feds are building.


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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: olivant] #383251
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Great Episode, opens up a lot of possibilities...

Why is Tony so mad at Chris?




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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: olivant] #383252
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Lotta shit going on, Ollie.


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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: pizzaboy] #383266
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I assume Tony is sorta pissed that Chris basically took a Tony-esque character in CLEAVER...and it not being so pleasant.

Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: pizzaboy] #383269
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When Tony and Bobby are out in the boat, Tony mentions that Bobby has never killed anyone, and Bobby admits that his father didn't want that for him, etc. Tony tells him he should be happy he never has, that it sucks. So, for punishment, Tony makes the deal with the Canadians to kill this guy, and then makes Bobby do it.

As for the fight with Tony, Tony deserved it. He loves to do this with Janice, just as he did when she was so proud of her anger management counseling, how it helped her, and then he egged her on until she lost it. He can be such a bastard at times.

Loved Janice's line about how she "exploded" when her ex-boyfriend hit her! Was that the understatement of the year, or what??

I was wondering what sort of groundwork Chase was putting down, with Janice's talk of how Tony would do anything she told him to when he was a kid.
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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #383270
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When Bobby comes back at the end, is that the other sister(cant remember her name for the life of me) and her huband sitting there or just some people.


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 Originally Posted By: ap_capone48101
When Bobby comes back at the end, is that the other sister(cant remember her name for the life of me) and her huband sitting there or just some people.


You're thinking of Barbara.

Its not Barbara in that scene (some other people). Remember that Janice told Bobby some other couple was coming over (before he left on his trip to kill the guy).


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Ah, thats her name. Thanks.


Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: ap_capone48101] #383369
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Anyone know who Dominick Chianese JUNIOR is on the show? The credits have him listed as playing a character named Dominic.



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He has an IMDB profile but I can't find any pics.


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He was probably one of Phil's crew, no??


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