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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Don Cardi] #383389
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It wasn't bad. Bobby and Tony coming to blows wasn't a surprise since Tony kept insulting Janice with snide remarks. I thought Tony was going to kill Bobby because of the small boat that was on the lake aka Fredo from the Godfather. Tony sitting in the chair reminded me of Michael from GF2.


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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Paul Pisano] #383412
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For a moment, when Janice was telling Carmela that she once exploded on an ex boyfriend ( Richie Aprile of course), I thought that she was going to take out Bobby.



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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Don Cardi] #383423
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From the episode's beginning to the sitdown with the Canadiens, I was ready for a shot to ring out and for someone to hit the dirt, especially while they were playing Monopoly. Good suspense. But I was glad that Tony got a beating. He needed it. And I disagree that Tony made Bobby pay a price by killing that guy. Afterall, Tony seemed to be telling Bobby while in the boat that he was going to move him up. But to do so I think it appropriate that Bobby make his bones.


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Re: The '07 Season [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #383424
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 Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
So how accurate were the AICN "Spoilers" from weeks back anyhow?


Actually, they were accurate to the letter.


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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: olivant] #383446
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 Originally Posted By: olivant
I disagree that Tony made Bobby pay a price by killing that guy. Afterall, Tony seemed to be telling Bobby while in the boat that he was going to move him up. But to do so I think it appropriate that Bobby make his bones.


I don't know about that Olivant. Re-watch the scene when Tony askes Bobby if he's going to handle it. The way that he asks him if he's going to handle it and then says "..and no bow and arrows."

I believe it was Tony's way of making Bobby pay for giving him the beating.



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Re: The '07 Season [Re: pizzaboy] #383453
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I think Tony resents Baccala's happiness and apparent stability as a family man. His real family, not his mob family. Bobby seems to have more morals than any of Tony's other associates. He loves his kids. He cried like a baby when he lost his wife. And he took care of Junior like he was caring for his own father, he even bought him stool softener.

Tony seems to resent other people being happy, especially within his own circle of friends and family. I think he's enjoying holding this kid's murder over Bobby's head. As if to say "Hey Bobby, look, you're no better than me."

Then again, Tony's motives are Melfi's job, not mine.



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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Don Cardi] #383457
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I got the same impression DC, and think it may come back to Tony. Bobby was sloppy I think, leaving the ripped part of his shirt, and although I see others' point, I don't know that I'd have dropped the gun right there in the laundramat.

What "could" happen is, Bobby will be tracked down by the police and as someone else here said, will turn states evidence agains Tony to save his own skin. Yea, they are all murderers, but I see Bobby thinking about his family and doing whatever it takes to get out of jail. Then again if that happens and he rats on Tony, he could die before he even gets a chance to testify. .
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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Don Cardi] #383461
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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
Anyone know who Dominick Chianese JUNIOR is on the show? The credits have him listed as playing a character named Dominic.


He played "Dominic", the guy in the scene with Frank Vincent, who seemed to be getting on his nerves.

Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Just Lou] #383471
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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Don Cardi] #383472
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people are reading too into the ripped shirt of bobby's. the ripped shirt represents a piece of bobby's soul that was left behind after he killed that kid, thats what i think anyways, and i think i read that in an earlier post. besides the cops would need to test it for any traces of dna and theyd have to find matches and everything, too long and complicated to put in the show. besides it was left behind in canada, it wouldnt be available to the states police, to the canadian authorities its a homeland murder, they have no clue it was a connected mafia murder. but anyways ive run on too long lol i hope ppl get my point.


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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #383473
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 Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette


Bobby will be tracked down by the police and as someone else here said, will turn states evidence agains Tony to save his own skin. \:D

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I'm thinking Christopher turns on Tony. Several seasons back, there was a point when he was disgusted with Tony. There was also the time when he was thinking about getting out of the life and going into screenwriting. Then Aidrianna tried to get him to turn when she was informing on them. Now Tony is pissed off at him, hung up on him, and Christopher knows that Tony ordered the hit on Adrianna. Factor in that New York wants to put a hit on someone close to Tony and the feds warned Tony at the end of last season that someone close to him was in danger, and you have the makings of a Christopher running scared from Tony being pissed with him and possibly finding out that there may be a contract out on him from his enemies, and the only way to go is rat.



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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Rocco_Spaccamuro] #383477
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 Originally Posted By: Rocco_Spaccamuro
people are reading too into the ripped shirt of bobby's. the ripped shirt represents a piece of bobby's soul that was left behind after he killed that kid, thats what i think anyways, and i think i read that in an earlier post. besides the cops would need to test it for any traces of dna and theyd have to find matches and everything, too long and complicated to put in the show. besides it was left behind in canada, it wouldnt be available to the states police, to the canadian authorities its a homeland murder, they have no clue it was a connected mafia murder. but anyways ive run on too long lol i hope ppl get my point.


Good points. Bobby wore latex gloves, so no prints or powder burns, so get rid of the gun right away. I assume it was hot.

Also, Tony making the remark about the bow and arrow I took as comedic, that's all. While it's true that Tony tends to resent people, I don't think it will amount to anyhting in this case.


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You're probably right Olivant. I guess I'm letting my heart rule my brain. I just happen to find resentment to be just about the ugliest character trait there is and Tony frustrates me. It's really a testament to Gandolfini's great acting to make me even take a minute of television personally.


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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: pizzaboy] #383481
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I agree DC. I think that Chase might be setting us up for major tragedy by allowing Tony to finally be in a place where he can enjoy his home life, making it all the more tragic if something were to happen to any of them.


If anybody close to Tony gets whacked, I hope it's AJ. He's a bastard.


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It was very nice of AJ's girlfriend to be so concerned about Tony's arrest. "They let himout already ?"

Nice.



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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: pizzaboy] #383590
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I think Bobby kills himself, him looking at his kids, and the picnic setting gave me that idea.. Does he really wanna do this?

I think Meadow just disappears.. Didn't Tony reject of her seeing that black guy from school? Why is AJ allowed to date a black girl? That will be brought up.

I think Chris turns evidence against Tony.. Stuff is starting to do down between them..

Tony will not be killed!

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I saw making Bobby do the hit as punishment but I think there will be more down the line as well.




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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Ryno_Smith] #383622
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 Originally Posted By: Ryno_Smith
Why is AJ allowed to date a black girl?


I believe A.J.'s girl is Dominican.


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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: Paul Pisano] #383696
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I think everyone is in agreement that something is gonna go down involving Bobby. Bobby laid his hands on the boss of the family. I don't think Tony is gonna be satisfied with this one hit he forced Bobby to do. Tony's pride was hurt tremendously.

I say Bacala gets pinched and turns states evidence...or he gets whacked.


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I think it's all misdirection. Bobby will survive and something else out of the blue will occur.


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Re: Season 6B - Episode 1 **SPOILERS POSSIBLE** [Re: olivant] #383708
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What if Bobby did get killed but Tony had nothing to do with it ? It could happen, it's a hazard of his trade. You know Janice would blame him anyway. Janice then kills Tony.

Ha Ha.


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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that TONY gets pinched and is convinced to testify against his colleagues in exchange for immunity and Witness Protection.

If the Feds can play on Tony's love of his REAL family, and convince them that he is no longer safe, and neither is his family, I could see Tony flipping.


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Is this the same Tony that beat up some muscle head young bodyguard a week after being in a coma, only to lost to a guy that was said never to be in a fight before?

Chase should have watched some old episodes.

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That kid knew if he fought back he wasn't walking out of that club alive. This was a totally different scenario.


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That kid did hit Tony..

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I don't recall if that kid did or did not hit him back. Something tells me that he didn't, but I'm not 100% sure.

Regardless, Tony blind sided him that time., plus the kid did not have any rage in him.

Bobby on the other hand did have a pent up rage in him for Tony, and the alcohol finally brought it out. Bobby also cold cocked Tony.

There's really no comparison between the two incidents.



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If you will recall the scene that Tony beats up 'some muscle head young bodyguard' you should remember the 'slo-mo' of Bobby dunking a basketball. The guy is a stud. Tony asks him how much he's waying these days....265, Bob says in a coy manner. Tony has a 'man-hood' check in this scene w/ Paulie's tattoo, Bobby dunking, etc, which is why the bodyguard got his ass kicked. I mean, the body guard didn't do anything wrong, Tony was going to kick SOMEONE'S ass in that scene.

In much the same way, Bobby(Janice)had been insulted one too many times. He was determined to kick TONY'S ass. And, he did.

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you dont hit a boss tho, no matter what the hell he's saying.


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This wasn't some guy he didn't know, it was a member of his extended family, the only ones who even know it happened are them. If it had happened in front of people, Bobby would be dead meat. The way it happened, Bobby will live.

Now Bobby will either get more respect from Tony or Tony will keep pissing Bobby off in every way he can until it builds up to a climax.




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This episode could have benefitted from another "dream" sequence. At four in the morning, when Tony wakes up and goes into Bobby and Janice's bedroom, instead of Tony saying, "You beat me fair and square," Tony pulls out a gun, shoots them dead, Carmella comes out of her room, wrescles Tony for the gun, Tony kicks her away, aims at his wife, and shoots her dead, too.

At this point, Tony looks at the gun, looks at Bobby and Janice, dead in their bed, then looks down at Carmella, the woman he has loved, dead on the floor...puts the gun in his own mouth, and fires.

Fast forward, and you're at the funeral parlor. All the guys from Tony's crew are there, along with family members. Everyone's solemn and in shock, then Christopher says something funny, which makes Paulie laugh, which makes Silvio laugh, which makes Melfi laugh (Melfi, what's she doin' there?), which makes Carmella's mother laugh, which makes AJ laugh, until everyone in the funeral parlor is laughing...

...then boom! Tony wakes up in his bed from his dream, looks at the clock, which says four. He gets up, walks to Bobby and Janice's room, and says, "You beat me fair and square..."

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