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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Turnbull] #804450
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Yes, but few people know that he had a steel plate in his head and the bullet bounced off...both he and Elvis are working in a Burger King in Canada right now.

Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Turnbull] #804477
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old school13, no, no, no, you got it all wrong, elvis is running a little donut shop in texas, {as of last sighting} hope this clears everything up. lol



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Turnbull] #811185
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Mob myth or fact: Larry Gallo was buried holding a Jimmy Roselli album in his hands

Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Alfanosgirl] #811188
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Originally Posted By: Alfanosgirl
Mob myth or fact: Larry Gallo was buried holding a Jimmy Roselli album in his hands

Was it the White album or the second release? If you play the original backwards you can hear J Edgar Hoover saying; "There is no Mafia!" over and over.

Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Mark] #811189
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Originally Posted By: Mark
Originally Posted By: Alfanosgirl
Mob myth or fact: Larry Gallo was buried holding a Jimmy Roselli album in his hands

Was it the White album or the second release? If you play the original backwards you can hear J Edgar Hoover saying; "There is no Mafia!" over and over.


lol lol lol It was the Italian album

Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Turnbull] #815456
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Salvatore Maranzano (July 31, 1886 – September 10, 1931) was an organized crime figure from the town of Castellammare del Golfo, Sicily. He is accused of instigating the Castellammarese War to seize control of the American Mafia operations, and briefly became the Mafia's "Boss of Bosses". He was assassinated by a younger faction led by Charles "Lucky" Luciano, who established a power-sharing arrangement rather than a "boss of bosses" in the hopes of preventing future wars.

http://youtu.be/WACvACqlGtk?list=PLQhDH_WZbs1N0jqZ9y9naMtgUfZ3VoVbo

Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Don Cardi] #827431
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TB, you mentioned that Don Vito Cascio Ferro had a drug pipeline between Italy and America. Can you elaborate on that? Like when that was and if he the first mafioso in America.

Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: BDuff] #839412
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hopefully skinny Joey wont get power drunk and start whacking people and fuck it up like scarfo.but I think Joey will keep things smooth and quiet.


you better have that 200 in my fuckin hands.
Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Turnbull] #889701
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Maybe this goes here:

"Frank Sinatra’s old casino at Lake Tahoe, closed for renovations for nearly three years, is now in bankruptcy. Months after halting work on a $49 million overhaul, the developer of the Cal Neva Resort & Casino has placed the venerable Tahoe property in Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings. The case has left the reopening in limbo, although the developer said in court papers the project can be finished in a few months. The national hotel chain that has contracted to operate the Cal Neva says on its website the property is scheduled to open next April. In a filing in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Santa Rosa, the developer said the property faces about $40 million in debt and will need $23.8 million"

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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: olivant] #892114
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New owners of the Neva Lodge are claiming to make it high end, which is stupid. Trendy, free spending millennials do not go to North Shore, and never will. If they really want to keep Frank's old Neva on life support, they have to make it appealing to the 40 plus crowd.


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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: BloodlettersandBadmen] #907005
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Originally Posted By: BloodlettersandBadmen
Salvatore Maranzano (July 31, 1886 – September 10, 1931) was an organized crime figure from the town of Castellammare del Golfo, Sicily. He is accused of instigating the Castellammarese War to seize control of the American Mafia operations, and briefly became the Mafia's "Boss of Bosses". He was assassinated by a younger faction led by Charles "Lucky" Luciano, who established a power-sharing arrangement rather than a "boss of bosses" in the hopes of preventing future wars.

http://youtu.be/WACvACqlGtk?list=PLQhDH_WZbs1N0jqZ9y9naMtgUfZ3VoVbo




Was it Maranzano or Lucky Luc' who started the 5 family structure? I think I read in Valachi book,where he (JV)went to a hall in the Bronx(?)where Maranzano was allocating newly made guys to the newly created 5 families.

Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Turnbull] #911912
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Even during the glory days of the mob before RICo and witness protection to be involved as an associate or even after you got made it was a dangerous way to make a living. All the shit about honor and glory is bullshit. Many assosiates and up dissapeared and presumed wacked.
That life is so full of backstabbing, greed, paranoia it isnt funny. Anyone ever notice the cancer rate among wiseguys? Ok most used to be heavy smokers but I think just the stress of living that life gets you sick, almost all of them had bad tickers. I know some guys that have been made and many more that are hangers on and from what I see the great majority at the end of their life if you tabulate the stress, prison, getting killed at the very end they broke even to blue collar work. If you make 250K a year clear for a 5 year run but than do 8 years in jail comes out to 100K a year? not for me. The federal laws now are ridiculous if you have an Italian last name and do a minor federal crime they give you the max.

Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Turnbull] #911913
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Who specifically has been given a tough sentence because of having an Italian surname?


"You hear a little girl, Frankie? Is that a little girl, Ace? Is that a little fuckin' girl? What happened to the fuckin' tough guy who told my friend to stick it up his fuckin' ass?"

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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Turnbull] #911938
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Well I exaggerated that but what I mean is I know of people that are Italian and have associated that have been brought up on Federal charges for things not directly related to OC specifically but due to past associations and prosecutors blow their horn with insinuations and judges give more years than the minimum mandatory on federal sentencing guidelines. Having spent time around I know this to be true. Justice is not always blind especially if defendants do not have adequate representation to make substantial motions of suppression and sentence mitigation.

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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: UncleVig] #911997
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Originally Posted By: UncleVig
Even during the glory days of the mob before RICo and witness protection to be involved as an associate or even after you got made it was a dangerous way to make a living. All the shit about honor and glory is bullshit. Many assosiates and up dissapeared and presumed wacked.
That life is so full of backstabbing, greed, paranoia it isnt funny. Anyone ever notice the cancer rate among wiseguys? Ok most used to be heavy smokers but I think just the stress of living that life gets you sick, almost all of them had bad tickers. I know some guys that have been made and many more that are hangers on and from what I see the great majority at the end of their life if you tabulate the stress, prison, getting killed at the very end they broke even to blue collar work. If you make 250K a year clear for a 5 year run but than do 8 years in jail comes out to 100K a year? not for me. The federal laws now are ridiculous if you have an Italian last name and do a minor federal crime they give you the max.
True, but then ,on the other hand,some wiseguys have a VERY substantial lifespan,into their nineties etc..Dominick Pollina as an example (102 yrs.)..I think maybe because they dont truly work a hard day's work in their life?..Christie Tick is another..I could go on..


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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: hoodlum] #914033
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There are Italian lineages that live for a very long time, but most aren't Sicilian. Most are from Sardegnia and pockets of Calabria (where the real power is located). Some of those who live for a long time may be benefiting from that. Life as a gangster is tough, but these are tough street guys and most of them didn't make much money as UncleVig indicated.

Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Turnbull] #941131
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2nd post here, [quote=Turnbull]Many people on these boards, especially younger people, ask questions or make statements about Mob life that are often myths--not realities. I'd like to start a thread that helps clear up the myths. I'll post occasionally, and ask you to post your own ideas, thoughts, explanations. Here's the first:

"BEING "MADE" IN THE MOB IS DANGEROUS TO LIFE AND LIBERTY"[quote=TurnBull]

TurnBull, oh so very succinct, Greed, Fear, Violence, Good Thread.

I'll bite, for those whom never experienced sitting in a social club, let's say on Bath Ave, playing Gin or Pinochle for hours on end, air thick with cigarette smoke and Di Nobili cigars, every one there is in various stages of doing scores, gettin swag, planning to score and planning to sell cases of Jeans pilfered from Brooklyn West UPS

Then a unnamed persona who's club it is states that there is an open hit for let's say " Micheal Miccio" (Really Happened 80's) and if you eyeball him you need to do some work. Not the work most folks do but nasty,violent acts that is part of being in a crew, "low totem on the man pole" Some guy's have a knack, a calling so to speak, a good example Tommy Karate, brutal.....Roy Demeo and all those crazy kids from canarsie.

Oh and let's not forget US Attorneys, AUSA'S and FBI and OCCB. These folks will lead you to housing with the Federal Bureau of Prisons, for me, MCCNY,MDCNY, Lewisburg,Allenwood FCI and LOW. Otisville too, did a bullet at gladiator school Rikers Island C- 95 ,C76,HDM and West Facility during the crack wars of the 90's....... waste of time.......

Movies are just that, movies
Since the Godfather Movie a weird dynamic happens, do the street guys emulate the movies?

The only mob myth I know is John Franceze, almost 100 and active..................a mob xman

















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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities [Re: Turnbull] #943697
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Originally Posted by python134r
2nd post here, [quote=Turnbull]Many people on these boards, especially younger people, ask questions or make statements about Mob life that are often myths--not realities. I'd like to start a thread that helps clear up the myths. I'll post occasionally, and ask you to post your own ideas, thoughts, explanations. Here's the first:

"BEING "MADE" IN THE MOB IS DANGEROUS TO LIFE AND LIBERTY"[quote=TurnBull]

TurnBull, oh so very succinct, Greed, Fear, Violence, Good Thread.

I'll bite, for those whom never experienced sitting in a social club, let's say on Bath Ave, playing Gin or Pinochle for hours on end, air thick with cigarette smoke and Di Nobili cigars, every one there is in various stages of doing scores, gettin swag, planning to score and planning to sell cases of Jeans pilfered from Brooklyn West UPS

Then a unnamed persona who's club it is states that there is an open hit for let's say " Micheal Miccio" (Really Happened 80's) and if you eyeball him you need to do some work. Not the work most folks do but nasty,violent acts that is part of being in a crew, "low totem on the man pole" Some guy's have a knack, a calling so to speak, a good example Tommy Karate, brutal.....Roy Demeo and all those crazy kids from canarsie.

Oh and let's not forget US Attorneys, AUSA'S and FBI and OCCB. These folks will lead you to housing with the Federal Bureau of Prisons, for me, MCCNY,MDCNY, Lewisburg,Allenwood FCI and LOW. Otisville too, did a bullet at gladiator school Rikers Island C- 95 ,C76,HDM and West Facility during the crack wars of the 90's....... waste of time.......

Movies are just that, movies
Since the Godfather Movie a weird dynamic happens, do the street guys emulate the movies?

The only mob myth I know is John Franceze, almost 100 and active..................a mob xman


















Franzese is 101. He must be active, maybe not directly but he will have guys collect payments and let them carry out everything physical

I wish I could meet the guy or write to him before he dies!!

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