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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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As far as i know, there is no season 7. Season 6 is divinded in two.. so far it will be in (I Think) 19 episodes.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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That's what I plan to do but...it won't the same. Hopefully a great season will cheer me up!
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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I thought it was Season 7 too. Anyway, I've checked the HBO Sopranos' site and they have no info on Season 7 whatsoever. I know they keep a lid on storylines, but has anything at all been revealed as far as what the final Season is going to focus on???? It's getting close now. TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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They're calling it season 6 part 2, which is ridiculous, even though there aren't as many episodes.
Anyway, they've released a synopsis of the first 4 episodes on their site. They have???? Gosh, I've been checking. I'll look again. Obviously I missed it. Thanks Pizzaboy! TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Only 27 more days! The promos they air are just clips of previous seasons.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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You mean on Easter Sunday??? Ok, quick rearranging of my festivities. TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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You mean on Easter Sunday??? Ok, quick rearranging of my festivities. Looks like I'll need to kick the Easter (I mean, Playboy) Bunny out early...
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Watch, they probably didn't realize it was Easter. It'll give them another excuse to delay the first episode. It's always extra fun during the few weeks the Sopranos airs. This thread is always hopping!!! What are we gonna do when this season ends? That's the end of the Soprano's thread?? They'll sleep with the fish. TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Maybe they chose Easter, a religious holiday for a reason. The show has always speculated about Heaven and Hell, and maybe something big happens in the first episode. You're absolutely right. Something does happen. Adriana rises from the dead. Olivant, I for one, get a kick out of your quirkiness, but she's dead. She's dead, she's dead, she's dead, she's dead, she's dead, she's dead, she's dead, she's dead, she's dead, she's dead!!
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Silvio was not Adriana's uncle, that was Richie Aprile. If you watch season 2, there is a scene where Richie confronts Christopher about the beatings he gives her.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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I could see the possibility that Sil works for the Feds, and thus when he found out that Adriana works for the Feds, too, he feigned killing her and set her off on a new life, or something of that sort.
But in that event, why would she return when she knows they already tried to kill her? Wouldn't she be afraid?? She was shot and Sil thought she was dead. She was found. She was in a coma perhaps. Okay, my Adriana Returns scene: At the end of the first episode of the new season let's say, the screen fades to black. A new scene opens up. You are looking through the lens of a camera inside what appears to be a hospital ICU corridor. The camera slowly moves down the wide corridor until it comes to the open door of a hospital room. The camera stops and turns toward the room. Inside, on a bed about 15-20 feet away we see the body of someone. It appears to be a blonde female hooked up to tubes and machines. The camera stays where it is at that distance as the screen slowly fades to black.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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That preview has been around since January and they never expanded on it. I doubt Chase will give us any footage of the final nine, there would have been a "real" preview by now. Only 23 more days everyone!
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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I don't know if this has been posted, but the HBO site has a little info and "preview" (sort of). Don't know what to make of the title, "Made In America". Any speculations? TIS http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/ Well, it could be a reference to the American Mafia vs. the Sicilian Mafia. Also, there was Ted Danson movie by that title years ago. He was the father of a child by a black women. Maybe it's a reference to some time of mixing.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Well the show itself is made in America. I doubt the slogan will have any effect on the season.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Well, I'm taking "Made In America" as the title of the first episode. But yea, if it's a slogan of some kind that simply refers to the family or the series itself, that's different. However, usually the titles of each episode is explained in some form, or at least mentioned or referred to. Anyway, just speculating, that's all. TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Well, I'm taking "Made In America" as the title of the first episode. But yea, if it's a slogan of some kind that simply refers to the family or the series itself, that's different. However, usually the titles of each episode is explained in some form, or at least mentioned or referred to. Anyway, just speculating, that's all. TIS Maybe Benny gets made.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Well, I'm taking "Made In America" as the title of the first episode. But yea, if it's a slogan of some kind that simply refers to the family or the series itself, that's different. However, usually the titles of each episode is explained in some form, or at least mentioned or referred to. Anyway, just speculating, that's all. Anyone think the title could refer to those two Middle Eastern guys and the Mob? Is it possible they figure in this last season? Maybe they're terrorists and Tony ends up cooperating with the Feds against them.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Well, I'm taking "Made In America" as the title of the first episode. But yea, if it's a slogan of some kind that simply refers to the family or the series itself, that's different. However, usually the titles of each episode is explained in some form, or at least mentioned or referred to. Anyway, just speculating, that's all. Anyone think the title could refer to those two Middle Eastern guys and the Mob? Is it possible they figure in this last season? Maybe they're terrorists and Tony ends up cooperating with the Feds against them. Or maybe they blow up the ice cream parlor.....
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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SC, you mention the Middle Eastern guys from last season. That is a good point. Whether or not this particular title is referring to them or not, who knows; and this title may very well be nothing as major as that. However, I always did sense that with the brief glimpses we got of those guys, that there probably would be more to that storyline. Then again, we've speculated during every season, and have been wrong many times. And still, it's fun to do. TIS Btw, didn't Tony last season ask (I forgot who he was talking to) "Do you think they might be Al Queda?" Remember?????
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Then again, we've speculated during every season, and have been wrong many times. And still, it's fun to do.
I spent a few hours last week going over some of the past seasons' threads here. Its hilarious at some of the things we predicted or speculated about in upcoming episodes. FWIW - Most of us were wrong most of the time.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Ha ha ha!! I believe it! Since this is the final season, the big question I have is how/where will Tony be at the end. I can only think of these scenarios. Since I'm always wrong, it'll probably be "D". Will the series end with a. Tony Dead b. Tony still on top c. Tony hits rock bottom/behind bars d. Other (open to suggestions) TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Will the series end with a. Tony Dead b. Tony still on top c. Tony hits rock bottom/behind bars d. Other (open to suggestions)
Put me down for "D" now. I'm predicting Tony will end up cooperating with the Feds (against those two guys) to save his skin from other organized crime charges.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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We aren't the only ones speculating. I found this "Unofficial" site (keep that in mind). It gives the impression that it's a Lorraine Bracco site at first glance and has at the top of the page, "Consider this a spoiler page". I glanced thru some "unconfirmed" spoilers, and yet, have to wonder how did they get this info. It does however have a trailer and photos and other info I haven't gone thru yet. http://www.lbracco.com/sopranos6bpromos.htmTIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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SB, Didn't think of that. Interesting. So then you're saying that there could be truth in some of these spoilers? TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Also, if their episode titles are correct, I was wrong. The first episode is NOT titled "Made In America". Reported Episode Dates / Titles * -- April's Episode Titles are now available on the HBO Schedule Episode # 01 / 613 / 78 - 04/08/2007 -- Soprano Home Movies * Episode # 02 / 614 / 79 - 04/15/2007 -- Stage 5 * Episode # 03 / 615 / 80 - 04/22/2007 -- Remember When * Episode # 04 / 616 / 81 - 04/29/2007 -- Chasing It * Episode # 05 / 617 / 82 - 05/06/2007 -- Walk Like a Man Episode # 06 / 618 / 83 - 05/13/2007 -- TBA Episode # 07 / 619 / 84 - 05/20/2007 -- TBA Episode # 08 / 620 / 85 - 06/03/2007 ( because of Memorial Day ) -- The Blue Comet Episode # 09 / 621 / 86 - 06/10/2007 -- TBA Hmmm Interesting! TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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SB, Didn't think of that. Interesting. So then you're saying that there could be truth in some of these spoilers? TIS Some of it could be. From what I hear (having seen these kinds of spoilers on other sites), these script pages are given out with a hint of other scenes, just so the actors can get a feel for what they should be doing. However, since the extras are not privy to the dialogue pages given to the main actors, which are subject to change and/or have alternate scripts, they are sometimes wrong.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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SB, Didn't think of that. Interesting. So then you're saying that there could be truth in some of these spoilers? TIS Some of it could be. From what I hear (having seen these kinds of spoilers on other sites), these script pages are given out with a hint of other scenes, just so the actors can get a feel for what they should be doing. However, since the extras are not privy to the dialogue pages given to the main actors, which are subject to change and/or have alternate scripts, they are sometimes wrong. Still fun to speculate!
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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SC, you mention the Middle Eastern guys from last season. That is a good point. Whether or not this particular title is referring to them or not, who knows; and this title may very well be nothing as major as that. However, I always did sense that with the brief glimpses we got of those guys, that there probably would be more to that storyline. Then again, we've speculated during every season, and have been wrong many times. And still, it's fun to do. TIS Btw, didn't Tony last season ask (I forgot who he was talking to) "Do you think they might be Al Queda?" Remember????? Tony asked Christopher that. I do think that they will be a bigger factor this season too.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Thanks Sopranorleone! I can't believe I couldn't remember it was Christopher. The only thing about any Al Queda storyline is, I don't know how it'll be received by the viewers. Many are very sensitive (understandably). They'd really have to be careful with a storyline, don't you think? If it came down to say, an Al Queda member and Tony Soprano, the only ending to that particular storyline would HAVE to be Tony wins right? We couldn't accept the other way around no? Then how would the public feel, (yea, even though it's only a tv show)with a mob boss killing someone from Al Queda (It'd be waaaay to far fetched to have the Sopranos wipe out all of Al Queda ? I have doubts that Chase will use that story.....then again, who were the Middle Eastern guys last season? Man, I'm really going out there aren't I? It's that time again. Can you tell I'm getting anxious? TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Don't worry Olivant, as SC posted above, every time we discuss possible plots, we are always wrong. Why just bringing the subject up decreases the chances that we're right. I suppose if they'd leak some storyline we'd have something to go on, but that's not gonna happen. TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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I'm using Geoff's new spoiler tag to hide it, so I hope it works. Thats like posting a sign "Wet Paint" sign (I still HAVE to touch the paint to see if it is, indeed, wet). Responding further: It would be great if that did happen (to Phil Leotardo) ... it'd be like "Goodfellas"
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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By the way, just saw a rerun where Tony tells Sil to forget about pressuring the building inspector about Carmela's house. Why did he tell Sil that? Tony was being a prick (by telling Sil to forget it) because he was angry that Carmella was too involved with her spec house and was to busy to be a housewife (no dinners, etc.). He figured if Carm wasn't involved with the house she'd have more time to spend on catering to him. Different topic - there was a scene with Vito in bed with his lover (Johnny Cakes) after just finishing dinner. Vito rolls over on his side and his partner starts to "spoon" and the very next scene breaks to a train going into a tunnel (Bobby Bacala playing with his trainset). Its one of the funniest things of the season.
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I saw this article today giving some details on upcoming episodes. Not sure if it's been posted before. 'The Sopranos' Returns With Arresting Developments Wednesday, March 21, 2007
By Roger Friedman 'The Sopranos' Returns With Arresting Developments
Good news: "The Sopranos" is back. Last night I had a chance to see the first episodes of the final season.
Bad news: It's the final season. There are only nine episodes, and the first two, while terrific in every sense, only foreshadow a little of what may come before the last shot is heard.
Next Tuesday night, about 2,500 people will jam into Radio City Music Hall to see these first two shows. But last night, HBO hosted a smallish affair at the Museum of Modern Art for movers and shakers to get the buzz going.
None of the show's cast members were there, but Glenn Close, Sam Rockwell, Charlie Rose, New York Times editor Bill Keller, Time Inc. editorial director John Huey, Time Warner chief Jeff Bewkes, Hearst Publications' Ellen Levine, writer Stanley Crouch, talk show host Donny Deutsch, Danny Bennett (who manages Dad, Tony) all were, along with show creator David Chase, executive producer Ilene Landress and writers Terry Winter and Matthew Weiner. So is it good? That's all anyone wants to know. The answer is: It's great. You can't do any better than "The Sopranos" on TV and often in film. And this time around, Chase and co. -- knowing the end is near -- do not disappoint.
The first episode, as someone described it, is like "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" Tony and Carmela drive to sister Janice and brother-in-law Bobby's lake house in upstate New York for Tony's birthday weekend.
The four characters are pretty much it for the show, but what transpires and what's revealed are major points that recall the past and should help write the future.
And here's one little spoiler: Tony is arrested for something that seems minor. That's all I can say. Oh yes, and there's a bloody beating and a hit.
The second episode brings in just about the entire cast as Christopher's horror movie, made with Tony's money, is finally unveiled. The premiere of "Cleaver" includes a rare moment when most of the ensemble (save Dr. Melfi) shows up for the premiere.
Writer Winter described it last night as "like the cover of Sgt. Pepper" as the camera pans the "Cleaver" audience and we see people we haven't seen in a long time.
The second part of Episode 2 concerns the tragic death of a main character. I won't say who it is, but it's not Uncle Junior.
The surprise is that director-writer-producer-actor Sydney Pollack turns up in a decent-sized cameo and nearly steals the show in the process. Look out for another cameo by actor Christopher McDonald as Christopher's AA sponsor.
In the end, though, what steals "The Sopranos" are the Sopranos. The writing is impeccable with lots of little gems, including malapropisms from Ray Abruzzo as Carmine (he calls a beautiful box "mellifluous"), non-sequitur quotes from Blood, Sweat & Tears by "poet" Paulie Walnuts (Tony Sirico) and the earnest assertion from Carmela that "Tony is not a vindictive man."
The acting in the show is also beyond anything else on TV. Obviously, the three main leads -- James Gandolfini, Lorraine Bracco and Edie Falco -- are a pleasure. But Episode 1 allows Aida Turturro and Steve Schirrippa to really shine.
And Episode 2 is full of revelations, including stunning work by Vince Curatola and Frank Vincent. The latter gets a speech about his character's family name (Leotardo) that is simply priceless. And Curatola has some magnificent elegant stuff as exiting New York boss Johnny Sack.
So, stay tuned. The end of "The Sopranos" could turn out to be a bloody mess, particularly if hints of trouble between Tony and Christopher are played out.
Personally, I would like to see the final scene of the show be between Tony and Dr. Melfi.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Nice find Beth! Looks like the first couple of episodes will be very good!
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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I hope not :x, I noticed you changed your avatar, that will take time to get used to....
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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I read that somewhere too, where did you get that from?
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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If this is the final season, what about a Sopranos spin-off? Possible? Maybe that alleged scene at the ice cream parlor means the Sopranos are going into the ice cream business. Boy, if they told me they had Ben and Jerry in the freezer, I'm not sure I'd eat it.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Capo, What season are they showing in the UK? 5? I assume you are enjoying it? TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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They're showing part 1 of season 6 now, TIS. Way behind. But I've seen everything and am as up-to-date as you guys. I love it.
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Here's the latest on the new season, it involves Tony's childhood and a breakthrough with Dr. Melfi. Tony suddenly remembers and comes to grips with the fact that he was sexually abused by Janice as a child and that Livia knew about it and did nothing. It also hints that Janice may have lost custody of her now adult son, Harpo, for similar reasons. Dr. Melfi assures him that this is the breakthrough they've been waiting for and that he's broken the family "curse" because he was able to give his children love where Janice and Livia couldn't.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Here's the latest on the new season, it involves Tony's childhood and a breakthrough with Dr. Melfi. Tony suddenly remembers and comes to grips with the fact that he was sexually abused by Janice as a child and that Livia knew about it and did nothing. It also hints that Janice may have lost custody of her now adult son, Harpo, for similar reasons. Dr. Melfi assures him that this is the breakthrough they've been waiting for and that he's broken the family "curse" because he was able to give his children love where Janice and Livia couldn't. God, I hope not, I hope not, I hope not! Surely, those inventive writers can come up with some hugely less cliche. Please, someone tell me this spoiler is bull!
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That is a little hard to believe, I doubt Chase would go in that direction.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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This has no spoilers at all!!! Sounds like, for the most part, local business areas that Chase has decided to use for the show will sorry to see the Sopranos go. Here are a few excerpts, maybe some of you have seen this article already, but I hadn't. (link to entire article is below). I assume those in Jersey/NYC know most areas they speak of. "When the pig is on the roof, people know "The Sopranos" are not far behind. The life-size pig sits on an old boarded-up building that will soon come to life as Satriale's, a fictional pork store where Tony Soprano and his Jersey crew hang out on HBO's acclaimed mob drama." "The Irish-American Association, which occupies the building next to Satriale's, takes down its Irish flag and flies an Italian flag during filming. The association has been paid $20,000 in rental fees over the years, said Richard Dunleavy, past vice president. The town of Kearny has collected permit fees of $76,650." "The end of the show also will mean a different look for various "Sopranos" locales. The Satriale's building will be torn down and replaced with condos and a parking garage. In nearby Lodi, the Satin Dolls strip club, better known as the Bada Bing, will be renovated." Jersey Saying Goodbye to the Sopranos TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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I also found this story. Evidently the final scene is shot in an ice cream parlor in Bloomfield, N.J., called Holsten's. Have any of you heard of it? I am putting a spoiler on this link only because the article states which actors were at the final scene (at least which actors were mentioned in the article. I don't know if this would spoil it for anyone or not, so I'll play it safe. Don't open the link if you don't want to know who is in the final scene. As far as I'm concerned it doesn't mean much because we don't know what the storyline is and not only that, anything can happen in the final scene. POSSIBLE SPOILER Final Scene TIS
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"The end of the show also will mean a different look for various "Sopranos" locales. The Satriale's building will be torn down and replaced with condos and a parking garage.
Good thing we got to see it when we did, TIS. (TIS at the firehouse next door to Satriale's):
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Yea SC, I am so glad I was able to see some of these locales. I'll never forget it. I'm guessing the tour will shut down as well no? Or could it run a while after the series ends? And Geoff, hang on to the Satriales shirt. Could be worth a bundle some day. I've still got my Bada Bing cap. I'm glad I purchased at least one momento. TIS
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I read that here in NY last week and I just don't believe it's the final scene. Chase has been too much of a fanatic about secrecy for almost 10 years for this to be true. I believe it might be the last scene filmed but I can't believe that Chase would shoot the last scene of the series in such a public manner. I know what you mean PB. I know many times scenes are filmed out of sequence and perhaps that's what they mean. Although the article states "final scene." Maybe they are just throwing us off. My dilemma however is I most likely won't be able to see the 6:00 p.m showing, since it's Easter Sunday, so will have to wait til 9:00. Life is so tough sometimes you know it? TIS
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I read that here in NY last week and I just don't believe it's the final scene. Chase has been too much of a fanatic about secrecy for almost 10 years for this to be true. I believe it might be the last scene filmed but I can't believe that Chase would shoot the last scene of the series in such a public manner. I know what you mean PB. I know many times scenes are filmed out of sequence and perhaps that's what they mean. Although the article states "final scene." Maybe they are just throwing us off. My dilemma however is I most likely won't be able to see the 6:00 p.m showing, since it's Easter Sunday, so will have to wait til 9:00. Life is so tough sometimes you know it? TIS Ah, the benefits of eastern standard time. I can watch at 9 pm.
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PB, I didn't get HBO til Sopranos was in the 3rd Season. I rented 1 & 2 then got HBO only for The Sopranos. Anyway, I knew it was on at 9:00 here and 6:00 there. I'd check the board on Sundays,not wanting to read what happened, and not reading the posts. I would see how active it was by replies. It drove me nuts not being able to join in. It wasn't till several episodes that stupid me realized I got the East Coast showing as well at 6:00. Damn, I'm gonna miss that show. It was the best part of Sunday nights (well, the couple months a year that it's on anyway ) TIS
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Yes, it was. A little too warm and fuzzy, am I right ? I think that was Chase's intention, the calm before the storm. I hope so, anyway. I hope so too. I think that the underlying message in the episode was "Family" and the making of a "beautiful home." AJ, the girlfriend and the kid. Christopher and his pregnant wife. Bobby, Janice and the kids. Tony making Carmela happy with the spec house and telling her that he loves her. All trying to make a beautiful home/family. If you remember early in the episode Carmela is crying to Tony and he tells her that she is a good mother and wife and that she made them a "beautiful home." Then near the very end AJ's girlfriend tells Carmela that she has a beautiful home. Her initial repsonse to her is 'thank you." But then you see Carmela stop and think about what the girl just said to her, and she looks back at AJ's girl and says " Yes, it is."
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I think it will be like the ending of Godfather II, where Michael sits there all alone. Everyone close to him has left or has been killed. From what I've read, the spoilers for the first two episodes are spot on...which is odd. Only four days away, all this anticipation is making me salivate!
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I too have been eagerly awaiting this from across the pond. My better half bought me the Season 6 Pt 1 boxset for Christmas and I've already watched the hell out of them. God only knows when we'll get them here... but I'm sure there are ways around it I read the synopsis for the first two eps a few days ago on AICN, found some of the developments surprising but not out of character for the series. How will it end? Time will tell. All I know is it ain't gonna be pretty.
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I think it will be like the ending of Godfather II, where Michael sits there all alone. Everyone close to him has left or has been killed. From what I've read, the spoilers for the first two episodes are spot on...which is odd. Only four days away, all this anticipation is making me salivate! Good point. I didn't think about the GFII ending. That would be a very pleasing finale for me.
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The one difference from GODFATHER II is that at the end of that movie, although Michael had lost everything dear to him, he was still the undisputed king of the American mafia. Tony has never wielded that type of power and being that these are the waning days of the mob, compared to it's heyday, when Michael was in power, he never will. Michael had lost his very soul at this point but his megalomaniacal needs were still fed through his success in the underworld. Tony could end up a much bigger loser, he could lose both "families". I think much is going to be left up to the imagination. We'll have a better feel for it in a couple of days. I can't wait!
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That's incredible DC! I have the same feeling.
If they killed off one of Tony's children, especially Meadow, which alot of spoiler threads have suggested, it would be too blatant a ripoff of GODFATHER III. But if Carmela was killed, who in Tony's eyes is an innocent (in spite of her staying because she loves the lavish lifestyle), Tony would NEVER get over it.
We all pretty much agree that Chase will punish Tony for his sins, but would he go that far ? We'll see.
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Why do I have this feeling that they are going to kill off Carmela? No!!!!! DC, what makes you think that? I hope not, but then again, I was thinking more in the lines of either AJ or Meadow someway, somehow getting killed. I think this would totally destroy Tony, perhaps even moreso than if Carm got killed. I really don't "want" to see Tony and/or anyone in his immediate family get whacked, but considering Tony's mob life, I suppose that would be the ultimate punishment no? TIS
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I think it will be like the ending of Godfather II, where Michael sits there all alone. Everyone close to him has left or has been killed. From what I've read, the spoilers for the first two episodes are spot on...which is odd. Only four days away, all this anticipation is making me salivate! Good point. I didn't think about the GFII ending. That would be a very pleasing finale for me. I, personally, feel that would be like a copy-cat scenario. I would rather see something creative and original.
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Why do I have this feeling that they are going to kill off Carmela? No!!!!! DC, what makes you think that? I hope not, but then again, I was thinking more in the lines of either AJ or Meadow someway, somehow getting killed. I think this would totally destroy Tony, perhaps even moreso than if Carm got killed. TIS As far as the children, I don't think so and agree with some of the reasons already given here as to why probably nothing will happen to them. Of course he'd be crushed if something happened to one of his kids. But I just don't think that is where these episodes will go. However, I think that if something were to happen to Carmela, it would destroy Tony because of how he's basically treated her like shit over the years. He's cheated on her and decieved her about many things. Then when the chips were down and he was facing death, she stood by him, pledged her loyalty to him and took care of him like a loving wife, despite all his infidelities. And he knows that. This is why I get the feeling that something is going to happen to her. If something does, his guilt will destroy him. In a Daily News interveiw with Lorraine Bracco, she says that we will be shown an ending that we could never even imagine.
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Yea, I see your point DC. We all seem to be speculating (or many of us are) that the ending will be some kind of "payback" where Tony gets his just desserts. Do you all think that it should or must end with Tony getting his due?? I mean, could it possibly end any other way? Yet Bracco's statement about the ending, makes me wonder where/what other ending does Chase have up his sleeve. This is indeed very intruiging. I can't wait. Just speculating here. TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Do you all think that it should or must end with Tony getting his due?? :
TIS
I don't think it has to end with Tony getting his due. Maybe that's what Bracco alludes to, that Tony does indeed ride off into the sunset, however unexpected that may be. On a personal level, and I really am conflicted about saying this, I hope Tony does suffer. I know that I'm in the minority, and a tiny minority at that, but I'm just tired of him always getting his way. For me, he's never been the anti-hero that alot of people feel that he is. He's a terrible husband, good provider or not, he's very jealous of others being seemingly at peace with their lives, and let's face it, he's a murderous bastard, that when push comes to shove, will kill you in a heartbeat depending on his mood. Are there alot worse people in the world ? For sure, but that doesn't make it right. No matter what happens, I'm really looking forward to this season.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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PB, No, you are correct. Tony does indeed deserve punishment. I totally understand where you are coming from. I can too understand how you'd feel conflicted. What is it about this character that makes him my favorite on the show???? Surely if he were a real life person I'd have absolutely nothing to do with him and God knows I'd certainly would never want to be married to a Tony Soprano. Stepping back from the fantasy of a tv show, and looking at it in a realistic way, yea, Tony "deserves" a harsh punishment. he is a "crook." Whatever the ending, I hope in the end, we all can agree, that the series ended appropriately. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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TIS,
I wish I had worded it as well as you did. You hit it right on the head, especially about being conflicted about Tony being your favorite. I guess suffer was a poor choice of words on my part. Punished is a more accurate description of what I'd like to see happen to Tony. What I really do NOT want to see is Tony riding off into the sunset like Michael Corleone at the end of part 1. Do I love the end of part 1 ? I loved it 30 years ago and I love it now. It still gives me goosebumps, every time. But THE GODFATHER is opera where THE SOPRANOS is too close to real life. For me, an ending like GOODFELLAS, where everyone goes out in handcuffs, would be more appropriate.
PB
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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I'm sure some of you, if not most of you, are familiar with the British series 'The Prisoner' in the late sixties, starring Patrick McGoohan. Completely different genre, I know, but bear with me on this. That particular series raised more questions in terms of content than it answered, much like The Sopranos. After faithfully promising fans that he would tie everything up, McGoohan wrote an entirely nonsensical ending which may still feel unsatisfied with.
Now, I'm not suggesting for a minute that Chase & co would write anything ridiculous, but it's certainly possible the ending could be an anti-climax. Maybe that's what Ms Bracco alluded to. Nobody gets whacked, Tony and Carmela live happily ever after etc blah blah blah. Would they do that to us? Would they let Tony get away scot-free?
Like TIS, just speculating. But the thought that Carmela might buy it has occurred to me as well.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Yea, I see your point DC. We all seem to be speculating (or many of us are) that the ending will be some kind of "payback" where Tony gets his just desserts. Do you all think that it should or must end with Tony getting his due?? I mean, could it possibly end any other way? Yet Bracco's statement about the ending, makes me wonder where/what other ending does Chase have up his sleeve. This is indeed very intruiging. I can't wait. Just speculating here. TIS I posted somewhere above that the ending could be anticlimatic. It could all end with a whimper of sorts as in "all goes on as before." Remember the fight Tony picked with his young driver when he returned from the hospital after being shot? Remember how he went into the bathroom and threw up then looked in the mirror and smiled. That same attitude of his could be incorporated into a script for the finale.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Let's not forgot what SC said (correctly) a few posts back. WE HAVE BEEN WRONG MORE THAN WE'VE BEEN RIGHT (a lot more) on all the predictions we've made in the past. How many times during the season we guess this or that and either nothing climatic happens or something we just don't expect. If the "odds" are that all our speculations are incorrect, then this will truly be a "surprise" ending. Heck, I don't care, it's still fun to talk about. If I don't get to see the 6:00 showing on Sunday, I'm gonna go nuts wondering what you guys are talking about. SB, I cheated!!! I read your spoiler!! :(. I just couldn't resist. (Call me Mrs. Kravitz ) Even still, I am not believing anything just yet. TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Here's the main why Tony won't be killed....MONEY! Chase knows how much money HBO would throw at him to make a "Sopranos Movie". He will keep Tony alive with a few other key or regular characters (Silvio, Artie, AJ, Melfie, FBI guys, Hesh, Meadow, Carm, Janice, etc.) just to salvage a plot. I'm getting rather excited for the final nine, but it's bittersweet knowing it's the end.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Well, as said here in an earlier post, there's too much money to be made down the road not to keep enough of the characters alive for a movie. And the uniqueness of The Sopranos was the ongoing dialogue between Melfi and Tony. They couldn't kill her off. I totally agree SB. Great post.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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I think enough characters will be killed off during the New York/New Jersey mob war.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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A little off topic, but do you know what I hope DOESN'T happen,ESPECIALLY when the very last episode airs??? I hope for those of us on the West Coast, they don't have the ending posted on line or have it on the news too early. They do that for some award shows that air earlier back East and I've gone on line and accidently have seen who's won. This would be worse. If, like this Sunday's episode, I'm not able to see it til 9:00 (my time), it would ruin it. I'm lucky I have all the HBO's which allows me to see the East Coast episode, but not everyone does. Also, remember that jerk who posted the Junior/Tony episode (I forgot which season), but it pissed me off. TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Sopranos' Star Ready for Show to End By Associated Press 2 hours ago
NEW YORK - The time has come for HBO's "The Sopranos" to be rubbed out. And Michael Imperioli is ready for the end.
The 41-year-old actor returns as Christopher Moltisanti for the final season of the Emmy-winning mob drama, which premieres Sunday (9 p.m. EDT).
"I love the show," Imperioli told AP Radio in a recent interview. "It's gonna be sad to leave it. I think the timing is right to end it."
What's in store for his character?
"I would like to end it in the psychiatric hospital with Uncle Junior," he joked. "It's probably gonna end, I would imagine, not the way people expect."
Imperioli said he hopes Tony Soprano, played by James Gandolfini, won't allow Christopher to take over as mob boss.
"If it ends with me as the boss then what's the point, it's over, right? Then I don't get to enjoy it," he laughed. "I don't have any desires in that how it ends. I mean, I know however it's going to end, it's going to be interesting and appropriate."
He said it would be funny if Christopher's fiancee, Adriana La Cerva (Drea de Matteo), got revenge on him.
"Maybe (she) comes from beyond the grave, makes him a zombie and brings him to the netherworld. I don't know, I always thought he could be killed by Adriana but that's not gonna happen," he said.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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If I may suggest; whoever starts the first thread, just title it "Spoilers" Episode 1/Season 7 (or something like that). If we keep each episode on it's own thread, we should no when/if to go there no? I know that I won't to go there until I've seen it. TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Just watched Countdown with Keith Olberman and a segment by Brian Williams on the Sopranos. He referred to Edie Falco in the kitchen just after she finished the last Sopranos scene to ever be shot. So, I'm taking that to mean at least that Carmela survives. Olivant, I just watched the same thing. And, I thought the same thing too. She really sounded like she's gonna miss it hu? They must film scenes out of order, because in another post I made with an article, it stated the final scene was filmed in an ice cream shop, remember? TIS Btw, Gandolfini must really be camera shy, because he hardly ever appears in any of this news segments.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Okay, just saw a Sopranos preview. Tony does get arrested - by the FBI and in his bathrobe. I won't say anything more. Did anyone else see it?
I'm tellin' ya, Adrianna is coming back. Olivant, Thanks for the tidbit. Must be Tony was going out for the morning paper if he was in his bathrobe hu? What makes you so sure Adianna's coming back??? I'll tell you, if she does I'll eat my hat. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Okay, the numbers didn't pan out, but I'm sure about Ade. Nah. Someone needs to tell her she's dead.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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I just saw a 60 second clip on Yahoo. Tony, Carmela, AJ and Meadow are at the kitchen table discussing Meadow's mystery date. I guess she breaks up with Finn ?
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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How do these people know? Really, I mean Chase and the entire cast are mum on any storylines, so how do we know these people aren't talking BS? I hate that too, that's why I'm not even gonna watch any news tidbits between the time I get home tonight and the time I watch the first episode tonight. TIS
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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Ok, I just got home. I have to wait til 9:00 to see it. Somebody, in a word or two, how was it??? TIS Through most of it, I kept waitimg for a shot to ring out and for someone to hit the ground. You'll love it. I did.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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SPOILER MATERIAL APPEARS IN THE FOLLOWING POSTS - DO NOT CONTINUE READING THIS THREAD IF YOU DON'T WANT THE DETAILS OF TONIGHT'S SHOW
SPOILERS SPOILERS
We should know alot more next week. I wouldn't read too much into the fight. It was a drunken family argument and all the principles know it. Besides, Tony already took his revenge by making Bacala hit that kid. It's clear he was uncomfortable pulling the trigger but Tony made him do it anyway.
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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It's not surprising to me that Bobby was capable of killing somebody. The guy is a mobster and generally they're not nice people. The one part that I really liked was where Phil was with his guys and it looks as though Gerry is Phil's "Christopher". Hopefully Chase will end this well!
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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A.J.: "I want to work for you, Dad."
Tony: "Okay, mow the lawn."
A.J.: "No, I mean I want to work for the Family."
Tony: (silent) "I see. Come with me, we have a lotta talk 'bout, you 'n me, and we have time..."
Tony puts his arm around AJ's shoulders and they start to walk. Tony suddenly stops, removes his arm from AJ's shoulder, looks at his son with a look as if he's got something really bitter in his mouth.
Tony: "You know something, I'd be happy if you were half as smart as Fredo Corleone, but you make Fredo look like Alec Trebbeck! YOU MAKE ME SICK! You think for one second I would take you in? You can't even clean your room! You can't even listen when I tell you to take out the garbage!! Get the fuck out of my sight, what did you think was gonna happen? You think we was gonna sit out in the garden, all nicey-nice, I tell you I'm drinking too much wine lately, you saying its good for me? I ought to wack you out, you sonofabitch!"
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Re: Part 2, and Season 7
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A.J.: "I want to work for you, Dad."
Tony: "Okay, mow the lawn."
Haha,funny. The episode was on A&E last night where Junior tells Tony he has cancer. Tony walks in with A.J. and says A.J. will move the lawn, and A.J. simply says "No I won't". Or something to that effect.
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