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They are going to hell.
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05/23/03 11:27 AM
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Vito: Mama: Kay: Michael: Sonny: Fredo: Connie: Apollonia: Don Ciccio: Hyman Roth: Frankie Pentangelli: Vincent: Mary: Khartoum: Woltz: Do you think they are going to hell? Why, or why not? ![lol lol](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/lol.gif)
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Re: They are going to hell.
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05/23/03 12:21 PM
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Re: They are going to hell.
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05/23/03 10:29 PM
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I agree with Mary Cas' view. Appollonia did nothing that we saw anyway, to deserve hell!! And Mary - Incest most likely was her sin. TIS
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Re: They are going to hell.
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05/24/03 02:28 PM
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Fredo, because he bangs two cocktail waitresses at a time. GoodFella
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Re: They are going to hell.
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05/24/03 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Double-J: Why the hell would Khartoum go to hell? Because in his last race he bet with his head, not over it.
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Re: They are going to hell.
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05/25/03 06:02 AM
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Vito: Hell. He's a mafia boss. Enough said. Mama: Heaven. She had nothing to do with the family bissuines. She was just an ordinary wife and mother. Kay: Heaven. She was the only truly inocent main character. Michael: Hell. Do I need a reason? Sonny: Hell. Murder and adultery. Fredo: Heaven. Was never a main part of the mafia. We all have simpaphy for him....don't we? Connie: Hell. Became involved with mafia in Part III when she could easily have stayed away. Apollonia: Heaven. What did she do wrong? Don Ciccio: Hell. Because he was the bastard who killed Vito's mother. Hyman Roth: Hell. Murderer. Backstabing bastard. Frankie Pentangelli: Hell. general mafia conections. Vincent: Hell. Unnesissary violence. Mary: Hell. For helping to kill Part III, and for pronouncing Corleone two different ways in the same speach. Khartoum: That's the horse right? err Heaven. Woltz: Hell. All producers do is make money. They have the power to bar popcorn crap from our movie screens, but instead they take the easy was out and release films like Tomb Raider, whereas truly great films hardly ever get a look in. And besides, Woltz was an asshole.
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Re: They are going to hell.
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05/25/03 06:35 AM
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Well we got to remember that these guys are Catholics (the irony!). We know Michael eventually confessed, but for all we know, Vito could have confessed to his sins, especially in his old age, after he retired, even if it is somewhat out of his nature to....talk much...at all. But remember: Mama Corleone went to Church every day to pray for Vito's soul, to "make sure he go uppa there...and not down there...". If someone prayed so much for her husbands soul, would he be redeemed? Khartoum, oh yeah, he probably went to hell for numerous sex offences, tax evasion, and probably even drug running. Woltz was a bastard, who exploited his actresses. Room 101!
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Re: They are going to hell.
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05/27/03 08:19 AM
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Cardinal Lamberto in GF 3, when Michael confesses Your sins are terrible, and it is just that you suffer. Your life, could be redeemed, but I know that you don't believe that. You will not change. I had a lengthy discussion over the weekend with my wife regarding Michael's confession and the fate of his soul. She is very deep into the Catholic religion, philosophically and intellectually. I asked her if she thought Michael would go to heaven after confessing to Cardinal Lamberto (quote above). She didn't think so for two reasons. On one count he might; he confessed but, was he TRULY sorry for his sins? We could assume yes, by his reaction and his later conversation with Connie. BUT, he would still spend lots of time in purgatory. On the second reason; he still condoned the actions of Vincent by omission. He didn't overtly know what Vincents actions were, but he knew the intent of Vincent and made no attempt to change the direction of Vincents actions - killing Lucchesi, Gilday, etc. In a sense he is guilty by being an accomplice. And as Lamberto said, "You will not change."
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Re: They are going to hell.
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05/27/03 03:03 PM
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I don't think Mike was truly sorry, nor did he ever truly change his life. He told the Cardinal himself, "what's the point of confessing, if I don't repent?" Even after this confession, he continued in the ways of a mob boss.
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Re: They are going to hell.
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05/27/03 03:37 PM
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Kay: Hell for the abortion and the bad jewelry. And for bad hairstyles. No number of Hail Marys can make up for that. I was going to make the point that Michael did confess, but did not repent. You're supposed to be truly sorry and make an effort to be better. But others have made these points so I'll just agree with them. Go and sin no more!
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Re: They are going to hell.
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11/01/04 01:38 AM
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Khartoum gets eternity in limbo because animals have no souls. That's what the nuns in grammar school told us...
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Re: They are going to hell.
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11/01/04 03:31 AM
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Vito:Heaven, he was the greatest don, the godfather Mama:Heaven, she supported the Don throughout. Kay:Hell for agreeing to marry michael in 2min. Michael: Heaven, he was the most powerful gangster of his time Sonny:Hell, bad don Fredo:Hell, bad don Connie:Heaven, better late than never Apollonia:Heaven, what a bombshell she was! Don Ciccio:Heaven, was a smart gangster till his eyesight became poor. Hyman Roth:Hell, cunning guy Frankie Pentangelli: Heaven, remembered his Omerta at the nick of the time and killed himself Vincent:hell, bad don Mary:hell, fell in love with her cousin Khartoum:Heaven, poor horse Woltz:Hell, @sshole
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