I guess Turnbull's argument holds water:

I don't care how much makeup they gave him, but I really doubt Ciccio was in his 30's back then!

I'm not saying he doesn't resemble him, because he does -- many features match up almost perfectly. But I just really doubt Dick Smith woulda spent as much time or more on him as he did on Brando, making him look much older -- and realistically so.

Of course, I could be wrong. Guest24 needs to comment on it...

Why would you think he should have been in mid-30's back then? Does that man in the picture look in his mid-60's to you?

I don't know, there is a period of time between mid-40's to mid-70's that men do look quite the same while aging. I think Don Cardi is right. That's Don Cicco!

I think it's Fanucci.

Isn't that Leopoldo Trieste, who plays Roberto, the landlord?

Turnbull and Don Cardi vs. SC and Don Malta!
This could get very interesting!

Ok, let the betting begin!


Don Cardi

This is a recent photo of GASTONE MOSCHIN, the famous Don Fanucci:



And this is a picture of Leopoldo Trieste, Signore Roberto:

It can't possibly be Don Ciccio. That actor was obviously already in his late 50's at the very least ... even in the early scene when Vito's mother is killed.

Anyway...why on earth would they have hired an actor in his 30's to play a character who is probably 20 years older. This was Hollywood...not a high school play.

I think it might be the actor who played young Don Tomassino, who aided young Vito in killing Ciccio...and was then crippled by the gunshots while escaping.

Apple

i was thinking that it could be enzo the baker

For once Apple & I agree on something. I have to admit that the comparison with the Don Ciccio still from the film is convincing though the mouth appears different, but I agree with the Don & Apple, why go to the bother of making a younger actor up to look older and then even older in the revenge scene?? Anyone recognise the booze bottles on the shelf behind him??


Wild guess, is it Livio Giorgi, the singer of Senza Mama??

I always get such a laugh when people put it that way...needless to say, it happens on just about every e-list I belong to!!

What's really funny is when people express amazement about their 'agreement'.

Apple

C'mon Apple, I find that very hard to believe!


Don Cardi

I must say, looking at those two pictures side by side, he does look like him. BUT, (30 years later) damn he looks better now, 30 years later then he did in the movie.
makeup or no makeup.

Apple......apple......oh Apple.............just joking with you!


Don Cardi

The answers is: What did Adam and Eve said in the Garden of Eden when the Lord stopped by.

I know, Don C....don't worry!! I was laughing right along with you. Were you waiting for some kind of clever comeback??? Obviously not my style .

Seriously, if I had a nickel for every time I read the words: " I really can't belive I'm saying this, but I agree with Apple! " ... my earnings would probably equal Pacino's combined salary from all 3 GF films!!

(Of course on other lists my real name is used...it's only here on the Gangster BB that am I known as a fruit)

Apple

Jay Leno has his Fruit Cake Lady and we have you

We would have it no other way.

Then again, I didn't see Don Vito buying any Apples.

And elsewhere, what? a nut?

I must owe you about a quarter Apple

My guess: Giuseppe Sillato (Don Ciccio) was between 40 and 45 (the scene where he ordered the shooting of Antonio Andolini's wife) when GF II was made (in 1973), and let's say the picture is taken 30 years later, then he has to be between 70 and 75 now. That's possible, no?

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<strong> [QUOTE]... And elsewhere, what? a nut? if they heard some of the names I've been called in cyberspace!!!

Interesting turn this thread has taken...I'm sure the mystery GFII guy is of greater concern !!

Apple

No, it's not possible. That actor had to be at least 55 at the time of the scene you're referring to.

People seem to be stuck on this Don Ciccio answer ... can't anyone find a bio of this guy so we can know when he was born or even if he's still alive?

Apple

I've tried every possible search for this guy's bio, but to no avail. Nothing comes up about his date of birth. No pics either.

It's time for the original poster of this question to reveal who this mystery person from GFII is!


Don Cardi

1974 The Godfather Part II Actor: Giuseppe Sillato Don Francesco
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Found on the internet.
I'm just a newbie here: Is his full name Don Francesco Ciccio, or is it a totallt different actor?

And I'm sorry Don Cardi, but I think this game should go on for a while, Turnbull is going to show in this thread who's the king of GF knowledge.

Still think it's Don Ciccio, he could have been between 40 and 45 in the movie, Apple, with lot's of makeup

OK...its time to spill the beans!!

I found a small bio of a painter called Giuseppe Sillato who was born in 1935. If it's the same guy....

"Ciccio" (or "Cicc'") is the diminuitive of Francesco. His formal name is Don Francesco, but he's also known as Don Ciccio. In GFII, Sra. Corleone calls him "Don Ciccio" when she implores him to spare Vito's life. But that night, when his henchmen are shouting their warnings in the town's streets that whoever's hiding Vito should give him up, they say, in Italian, that "Don Francesco will thank you for it."

It was I, not Turnbull, who originally said that the man was Don Ciccio! But Turnbulls a good man.

Time to go to the mattresses with this!

My Regime : Turnbull, Afs, you and myself.

Don Geoff's Regime : SC, TIS, Apple and Geoff.

Ok People, what regime are you going to join?


Don Cardi

Not so fast my friend. It hasn't even been 24 hours yet.

Let some of the people in other time zones have a shot at it.

Ok then, which Regime do you choose?


Don Cardi