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Re: Tommy and Tony ????
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12/29/05 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by Tony Love: He's gotta be Italian. He's from up north, with the Forellis, and even if he doesn't have to be Italian to be associated, his voice is played by non-other than the Good'Fella himself, Ray Liotta. Anybody can be from up north, even with the Forellis, GTA3 showed us that with "Claude" who wasn't Italian, yet worked for the Leones. Just because his voice is done by him doesn't exactly mean anything either, Rockstar thought that Ray did the best voice job for that character, nothing to do with him being Italian or Spanish. I don't quite think that, in that time period, an Italian would have gotten along that well with Cubans or Hatians as is shown in the game.
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Re: Tommy and Tony ????
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12/29/05 07:14 AM
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Let's not forget that in one of the missions (don't ask me which one) Tommy has to dress up and impersonate a Cuban. That lends some credence to the theory that Tommy may have been from Cuba or a similar country.
I personally believe Tommy is Italian. Works better for me and makes it a little less like Scarface.
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Re: Tommy and Tony ????
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12/29/05 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by Paul Krendler: Let's not forget that in one of the missions (don't ask me which one) Tommy has to dress up and impersonate a Cuban. That lends some credence to the theory that Tommy may have been from Cuba or a similar country.
I personally believe Tommy is Italian. Works better for me and makes it a little less like Scarface. are ya kidding... Vice City is Miami... the mad director (I don't remember his name) is Steven Speilberg the proof : he always wanted a big shark in his movie, after you finish Candy Suxxx misssions the movie names is Bite which is near to JAWS... Speilbergs movie!!! And the congress man Alex Shrub (Somethin like) I heard rumors that he's Bill Clinton? not sure?
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Re: Tommy and Tony ????
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12/29/05 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Toni_corleone: Anybody can be from up north, even with the Forellis, GTA3 showed us that with "Claude" who wasn't Italian, yet worked for the Leones. Yes but the time was different that took place in like 1999 or 2000 whereas vice city took place in the 80's and the leone family and Forelli's are different very different I think the Leone family were the outsiders. [/QB][/QUOTE] I personally say the Forellis were outsiders, because you don't hear anything about them aside from them running Marcos Bistro. The Leones have a mansion, own the strip club among other businesses. I really don't expect the Hatians and Cubans to get along wih an Italian from the north cutting in on their business. Not to mention its also borrowed some elements from Carlito's Way, another Pacino movie, another Spanish guy.
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Re: Tommy and Tony ????
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01/09/06 08:21 PM
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Yeah, but why would Rockstar give him the name, accent, etc.? It's ridiculously obvious they meant him to be an Italian. Rockstar was simply giving into requests considering you weren't an Italian in GTA3. And with San Andreas they took the "gangsta" root. Sure in real life you can say "Oh, Italian names don't mean anything" but are video games that deep? No. They just make a character. Claude was non-Italian. Vercetti was Italian, CJ was African-American. I also recall Vercetti using an Italian word or two during the game. I don't quite think that, in that time period, an Italian would have gotten along that well with Cubans or Hatians as is shown in the game. Again, it's a video game. It's a hybrid of Miami Vice and Scarface.
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