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Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216621
05/28/04 09:17 AM
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Tony's crew circles the wagons as Johnny Sack turns up the heat. Carmela counts her blessings; Christopher is freaked out by an unexpected visitor; Benny's connection to the plumbers' union comes in handy; AJ demonstrates his business acumen; and Tony ponders whether to execute a "sacrifice bunt."

Don't miss the season finale of "The Sopranos" on June 6th at 9PM ET.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216622
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I wonder if Christopher's unexpected visitor could possibly be the FBI???? Investigating Adrianna's death maybe? Or maybe they'll work on him to nab Tony. He is in the state of mind where he could rat him out, yet I would be kind of surprised if he did.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216623
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Good guess! I think it's very possible that Agent Robyn Sanseverino and/or Agent Deborah Ciccerone-Waldrup (AKA "Danielle") turn up at Christopher's door.


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I'd expect the latter, most likely because he never knew Sanseverino. Then again... it could be someone of no importance at all, knowing how the show can usually be...

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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216625
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I don’t anticipate the FBI pursuing this at all. First, they have to realize that they screwed up big time and if they think Adriana is dead, then there is no way that Chris is going to flip now. Secondly, if they think that Adriana did flee, chances are she didn’t tell Chris. Therefore, they aren’t going to be the ones to break the news to him that his missing fiancée was an FBI informant and risk him finding and killing her.

I’m pretty sure that Chris’s unexpected visitor will not be the FBI because they would be expected.


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So this is the second last episode?

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In the tralier
I thought i saw phil choking slivo in the car....
Did anyone else see this at some part in this episode's tralier?

Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216628
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Quote:
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So this is the second last episode?
It'll be the season finale. One more season (of ten episodes) will be shown next year.


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Anyone think Tony B. will be Chris' "unexpected" visitor?


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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216630
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Maybe Phil Leotardo will be Chris' unexpected visitor, killing him, leading to an all out war with Johnny Sac and the NY mob.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216631
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A guy on the "Today" show said Adriana isn't really dead, she just got a warning. He sounded pretty confident, like he has inside information. Maybe she's the "unexpected visitor". I doubt it. I think she's dead.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216632
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If Tony's crew goes to war with New York they have a lot to worry about. Cuz New York Wiseguys far outnumber Jersey.

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Quote:
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A guy on the "Today" show said Adriana isn't really dead, she just got a warning. He sounded pretty confident, like he has inside information.
There was a small blurb in yesterday's NY Daily News about Steve Van Zandt (Silvio) - he was questioned about the possibility of Adrianna being alive. In a rare, frank moment (for stars of the show) he he said Adrianna was DEFINITELY dead.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216634
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Steven was also on Leno last night and was asked the same thing. His reply was, "did you think I was shooting at a squirrel?" :p Yea, I think she is definitely dead. Too bad, I liked her.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216635
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If the producers (creative director) wanted to have Adriana irrefutably dead, they would have depicted her as such on screen, and not just shots heard.

The door remains open.

Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216636
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Just watched that episode again last night. Of course, anything is possible, but I don't think you need to see the body drop in order to believe she was killed. Tony smacking Christopher saying "you think you're alone in this", as Christopher was telling him how he loved her is in itself proof that this murder took place. It was something Tony didn't want to do either.

I know we've been surprised before by the Sopranos, but having Adrianna "not" be dead in the end, would be too cheesy in my opinion, even though I was sorry to see her go. We'll see how it plays out.

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Really, how does one not think she is dead? Think about it. Is a hardened and dedicated mobster like Silvio going to drive out into some secluded woods, pull her out of the car, fire is gun twice in her direction, yet not kill her? Did he give her a wad of money and tell her to get as far away from Jersey as possible? Remember Silvio took part in killing Pussy because he was talking to the FBI. And as much as he might have liked Adrianna, he didnt care nearly as much about her as he did about Pussy. These guys know what has to be done in these situations. They dont want to go to jail for the rest of their lives. The reason I dont think her body was shown is because she was one of the most beloved characters on the show and she was a woman. People already had very adverse reactions to her death without seeing the body, think of how some would have reacted after seeing her lifeless, bleeding body on the ground with two holes in the chest. Sometimes it is just not necessary to show the body.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216638
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I think they call it a "TWIST".

I for one think she is dead, but with Chase you never know what he has in his mind.

As you know, many times they start things like this to get people going. Just like some of the other reality shows let false info out.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216639
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Notice that Silvio killed more Rats than any other Mobster in the Soprano crew? Christopher lured a Capo named Jimmy to a trap in the 1st season. Silvio comes up and says "Goodbye rat." And Silvio participated in the murder of a soldier "Big Pussy" along with Capo Paulie and his Boss Tony Soprano. Silvio alone killed Adriana.

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Quote:
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Notice that Silvio killed more Rats than any other Mobster in the Soprano crew? Christopher lured a Capo named Jimmy to a trap in the 1st season. Silvio comes up and says "Goodbye rat." And Silvio participated in the murder of a soldier "Big Pussy" along with Capo Paulie and his Boss Tony Soprano. Silvio alone killed Adriana.
Wrong!

Tony killed the old Rat from Season 1, episode: College

Then Tony killed Big Pussy along with Silvio & Paulie

& just recently in episode 2 of this season Tony killed Jack Massarone.

Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216641
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Do you think Tony was the triggerman in the death of Jack Masserone? I sure doubt it. Sure, he certainly gave the order. But he didn't do it himself. He's a boss, and that's a piece of work he would delegate to an underling, no doubt about it. He wouldn't take the risk of getting caught or being successfully linked to a murder by the cops and Feds. He'd give the order.

Tony killed Febby Petrulio (in the "College" episode) because he was the only one around to do it, and he thought that Febby might go on the lam any time if he hesitated.

And Tony personally killed Big Pussy because that whole affair was something that affected him deeply. It wasn't just some rat, this was one of his very best friends betraying him.

So, as it stands, Silvio is beating Tony 3 to 2 in the "rat-killing race"!


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FYI:

Saw Michael Imperioli on Fox & Friends this morning while getting ready for work. The host of the show told him that some paper or magazine had an article in it today saying the Michael's character will get whacked in the finale. Michael's reply...."there's a decent chance." He also said that there was a good chance that any one of the characters could go. Did anyone else see this? What do you think?

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Quote:
Originally posted by Huntz:
Wrong!

Tony killed the old Rat from Season 1, episode: College

Then Tony killed Big Pussy along with Silvio & Paulie

& just recently in episode 2 of this season Tony killed Jack Massarone.

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NO I AM NOT WRONG!!! I AM REFFERING TO THE RAT THAT GOT KILLED IN THE LAST EPISODE OF SEASON 1

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Please calm down

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Tony kills that young kid that shoots Christopher after giving him a soda and the kids pisses his pants. I think he is with Pussie at the time.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216646
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The guy Tony whacked in the last episode of Season 1 was Chuckie Signore. Tony shot him on his (Chuckie's) boat, and then he and Silvio dumped the body.

Silvio shot Jimmy Altieri in that same episode, and Altieri's body was found with a rat stuffed in his mouth. (The "I Dream of Jeannie Cusamano" episode).

Tony also killed the "rat" (Fabio Patchullio) in the first season episode in which he was driving Meadow around New England while looking at schools. (The "College" episode).


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Re: Season 5, Episode 13: "All Due Respect" #216647
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The debate is strictly about what RATS Tony has killed personally, not all ALL of his victims.

Overall, Tony has personally killed five people on this show:
Febby Petrulio
Chucky Signore
Matthew Bevilaqua
Big Pussy Bonpensiero
Ralph Cifaretto

Of those five victims, only Febby and Pussy were rats. Chucky was a rival mobster who had to go in the Junior-Tony conflict, Matthew was killed in retaliation for the shooting of Christopher, and Ralph was killed because of the mistaken notion that he burned Pie O My.

So, Tony has killed 2 rats personally. Silvio has killed 3 rats personally: Jimmy Altieri, Pussy, and Adriana.

We all clear on this now?


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While not making any statement whatever, regarding either President Reagan's or my own political views, it is comforting to know that Episode 13 will be aired tonight without any concerns for pre-emption by anything.

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This is way out there and a long shot. But what if tonight turned out to be the series finale. What if HBO and chase created all this talk about season 6 in a year and a half as a hoax just to surprise everyone. It would keep the speculation and the hype down to a minimum and just totally blow everybody away. Imagine if tonight at 9:00pm you are watching and the announcer says "And now the two hour series finale of the Sopranos" Woaaaah Awesome


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Ha ha!! Yea, that would be a great "gotcha", and something that's never been done before, but how disappointing for us fans who know there is "at least" 10 more episodes. It'd be a shocker all right.

Anyone think that there's even the slightest chance that there will be 7th (money talks, anything can be negotiated right???) Now, that would be a decent "ploy" letting us all think that 6 is the final season, and surprising us with a 7th. I know, wishful thinking.

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