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Re: Season 5, Episode 2: "Rat Pack" #215946
03/16/04 10:34 AM
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once again, Buffalo, NY!
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When Tony and Junior were discussing the problems with Carmine, Little Carmine, and Johnny, I think Tony thought it would be a plus for the Soprano Family to have the inept Little Carmine in the UNDERBOSS position, not the BOSS position. Johnny was Carmine's underboss. If Johnny got taken out, a new underboss would have to be made. Carmine, a competent boss (though getting old in his way of thinking), would no longer have the ultra-sharp, smart, and ruthless Johnny Sack as his right hand man. Little Carmine is an idiot, and Tony correctly saw this as a plus for the Sopranos, financially. In future dealings, the Sopranos would be able to get the better of an idiot like Little Carmine.

I don't think Tony wants a total idiot like Little Carmine as BOSS, though. He'd run things into the ground, no doubt. And as a New York boss, he'd be Tony's superior in the overall Mob chain of command. Does Tony really want to be under an idiot like Little Carmine?

We'll see in Episode 3!


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Re: Season 5, Episode 2: "Rat Pack" #215947
03/16/04 12:21 PM
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Remember, Tony refers to Little Carmine as "Brain-less the 2nd" I think he'll side up with Johnny Sac.

Re: Season 5, Episode 2: "Rat Pack" #215948
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Then again, maybe he will play both sides.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 2: "Rat Pack" #215949
03/16/04 05:46 PM
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Quote:
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Then again, maybe he will play both sides.
From the previews, it appears that Tony is trying to mediate the disagreement between Johnny and Little Carmine.

Ah, the web becomes all the more entangled!


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Re: Season 5, Episode 2: "Rat Pack" #215950
03/17/04 01:27 PM
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Does anyone think the whole Judas quote is foreshadowing how Adriana might die? I think it's the same situation when you think about it. There she was in the Soprano home eating and drinking like she was a good friend while she knew she was betraying everyone...eventually her guilt will get the best of her .

Re: Season 5, Episode 2: "Rat Pack" #215951
03/17/04 01:36 PM
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Johnny Sac is still bitter towards Tony about not going along with the plan last season. Maybe tony doesnt want an enemy as his superior and rival business partner.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 2: "Rat Pack" #215952
03/17/04 05:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by LadyLuck:
Does anyone think the whole Judas quote is foreshadowing how Adriana might die? I think it's the same situation when you think about it. There she was in the Soprano home eating and drinking like she was a good friend while she knew she was betraying everyone...eventually her guilt will get the best of her .
Hi Lady Luck & welcome aboard! It's hard to tell really. I definitely think the whole scene was to show how torn apart she feels. The deeper she gets into this thing the more likely I think it is she'll get whacked. I hope not, because I think she's likeable and in the long run doesn't mean harm. Although in the mafia I suppose that doesn't cut it.

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Re: Season 5, Episode 2: "Rat Pack" #215953
03/17/04 06:28 PM
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Hey everyone. I've got a question. The lady that plays Tony Blundetto's mother, is she the same actress that got killed by Paulie in season 4? I'm refering to the lady that was a "friend" of Paulie's mother when she was sent to the nursing home. Paulie finds out that she's hiding money under her bed and decides to pay her a visit, and unfortunately kills her after she catches him stealing her cash. Anyway, I was wondering if she's the same actress or not cuz she really looks like her.

Re: Season 5, Episode 2: "Rat Pack" #215954
03/17/04 08:01 PM
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I thought that too myself believe it or not. Im afraid I dont have an answer, but I would be very surprised if they used the same actress for two characters especially in consecutive seasons.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 2: "Rat Pack" #215955
03/18/04 10:45 AM
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Didn't really notice, til you just mentioned it. There is a resemblence, but I too doubt they'd use the same actress. Yea I think Tony B is a little weird. I don't really trust him for some reason.


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Re: Season 5, Episode 2: "Rat Pack" #215956
03/18/04 02:32 PM
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Mardini, I thought the woman was Paulie's mother when I first saw her. But definitely not the woman Paulie choked for the cash.


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