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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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09/18/05 10:17 AM
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I think that Vincent should not go very far; I think that he must be murdered or arrested before Michael dies to emphasize more the misfortune of Michael's destiny. So he would have seen the destruction of " his two families ". When Mike dies (1997) in Godfather III in Sicily I imagine him like a unfortunate man, which has lost his family( Vincent is dead or in prision for example) and he could not have avoided the fall of the Cosa Nostra. Besides, the history would be more realistic because the Corleone family only has had 2 bosses in 60 years, it isn´t very real.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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09/18/05 09:34 PM
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I know what would be interesting for GFIV, a power struggle for control of the family between Vincent and Sonny's other son (or sons)!
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/14/06 10:45 PM
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So a struggle for control - Between Vincent and his brothers Frank and Santino "Chip" Corleone. not bad idea.
I think Vincent takes michael's teachings - and keeps the corleone family strong for the next 35 years. he goes to war with the russians, the asians, and the other families through out his years as don. (Vincent "Vincenzo Corleone" Mancini: DON 1980-??)
THE CORLEONE FAMILY 1980-?
Vincent “Vincenzo Corleone” Mancini: (32yrs) New York Don of the Corleone Family 1980-?
Frank Corleone: (40) Caporegime: head of security for Family Interests, other security details as needed
Santino Corleone (35) Soldato under his brother Frank
Victor Rizzi: (31) ? Michael Francis Rizzi: (25) ?
Frank Hagen: (40) Consigliore and family lawyer
Dominic Corleone: 4 years old – 1st born son of Vincent
Santino Corleone: 1years old – 2nd born son of Vincent ??Salvatore Pentageli (no Brasi): 4years old –grandson of Frank (Franki Five angels) Pentageli - parents murdered by unknown assailants – Vincent takes the boy in. (stood as Godfather)?? Mario Clemenza: (35) Caporegime: grandson to Pete Clemenza
Paolo Clemenza: (31) Soldato under his brother Mario, grandson to Pete Clemenza
Tommy Neri: (?) Caporegime: and nephew of Al Neri (have nt read godfather returns yet - so not sure if he is alive or not)
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/15/06 04:04 PM
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I think the fact that all the bosses must have the same last name is A bit un-realistic.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/15/06 06:42 PM
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Luciano Fanucci Reply With Quote I think the fact that all the bosses must have the same last name is A bit un-realistic.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/16/06 02:01 PM
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Vito CORLEONE Michael CORLEONE Vincent CORLEONE Why do they all have to be Corleone`s?
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/16/06 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Peter_Clemenza: I agree, Luciano Fannuci - It is unrealistic for every Boss of the Corleone Family in the Family's history to be called Corleone. The five Families in New York in real life don't only allow Genoveses, Gambinos, Bonannos, Colombos or Lucheses to become Bosses of their Families, so I would like to see a Boss of the Corleone Family who is not called Corleone, in The Godfather Part IV, if it is ever created. Yeah, perhaps A close family friend of the Corleone`s, Al Neri? Also, Clemenza or Tessio would of made good Dons, but we all know what happened to them.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/16/06 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Toni_corleone: Maybe in the next one if ever made the don could be a grandson of Clemenza Perhaps.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/18/06 12:44 AM
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or how about a Maranzano or a "Luciano" Fanucci
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/18/06 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by Toni_corleone: Hey wasn't smart smart but he was street smart and had alot of experience. In my opinion, "street smarts" simply aren't enough to be Boss of one of the five most powerful Families in New York and the entire United States of America.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/19/06 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by Peter_Clemenza: [quote]Originally posted by Toni_corleone: [b] Hey wasn't smart smart but he was street smart and had alot of experience. In my opinion, "street smarts" simply aren't enough to be Boss of one of the five most powerful Families in New York and the entire United States of America. [/b][/quote]Uh huh, you need to be able to predict what your enemy is thinking, knwo there weakness and strike when they least expect it, thats just one element needed to be A boss.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/19/06 11:08 PM
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instead of being the illegitmate son - he could have been frank or santino jr or even the traitorous carlo rizzi's sons victor or micheal francis - i think victor would be a traitor like his father and michael francis - could be Don Michael Francis Rizzi-Corleone.
ages in 1980 when Vincent Corleone took over. ages in 1980 when Vincent Corleone took over.
(my dvd says vincent born in 1948 not 47 after fathers death.)
Vincent Mancini (32) Frank Corleone: (40) Santino Corleone: (35) Victor Rizzi: (31) Michael Francis Rizzi: (25)
just thought MI FAMILIA
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/20/06 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by Luciano Fanucci: [quote]Originally posted by Peter_Clemenza: [b] [quote]Originally posted by Toni_corleone: [b] Hey wasn't smart smart but he was street smart and had alot of experience. In my opinion, "street smarts" simply aren't enough to be Boss of one of the five most powerful Families in New York and the entire United States of America. [/b][/quote]Uh huh, you need to be able to predict what your enemy is thinking, knwo there weakness and strike when they least expect it, thats just one element needed to be A boss. [/b][/quote]I think he would make an OK Don but not that great of one I think the next Don would have to be another Clemenza I don't think it would be anyone realted to Tessio though.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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02/20/06 06:50 PM
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I dont think Tessio or Clemenza where worth of becoming Don. Infact, I think the only guy who would be sutible for the position would be Al Neri. He was smart, but knew when and when not to pull the trigger.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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03/05/06 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Lavinia from Italy: I just say that Vincent makes an extremely good looking Don! oh yeah :p
You were right about one thing. I have been watching. Couldn't help myself. Watching, waiting, holding my breath. But I'm no puppeteer Kevin, I don't make things happen. Doesn't work like that. Free will, it's like butterfly wings, one touch and it never gets off the ground. I only set the stage. You pull your own strings.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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04/08/06 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by Peter_Clemenza: [QUOTE]Why does everyone have to be relatives of former Corleone Family members? [Oh well...] Thats the way it is - so deal
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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04/11/06 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by Toni_corleone: He would never become a Don only because of the fact that he was once a cop. Toni; He also became a trusted ( highly trusted ) enforcer for Mike and reported only to Mike after being a cop.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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04/13/06 03:37 PM
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What follows according to Puzo and Coppola is not exactly known. However, on The Godfather Part III's DVD commentary, Coppola explains that both he and Puzo had envisioned a fourth part to the saga, one storyline of which would deal with Vincent's running of the Corleone family. Vincent, in antagonism to the 'morals' of his predecessors, was to have involved the family in filthy businesses including drug dealing, driving the Corleone clan into corruption, sleaze and their eventual decline, with Vincent finally being hunted down and killed in a manner similar to the death of columbian drug lord Pablo Escobar.
The character of Vincent Corleone was said by Coppola to, roughly speaking, amalgamate the males of the Corleone Family. Whilst this concept is arguable among fans, Coppola describes Vincent as having the cunning of Vito, the ruthlessness of Michael, the sensitivity of Fredo and the fiery temper of Sonny.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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a rebuttal on my previous statement Originally posted by Peter_Clemenza: [/qb] Why does everyone have to be relatives of former Corleone Family members? [/QB][/QUOTE] question then - wasnt Clemenza Don after Mike left and then (not everone's favorite charater) Dominick "Nick" Geraci
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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Originally posted by DeathByClotheshanger: Nick Geraci is a friggin' joke. Winegardener could have at least used someone from the Part II FBI chart and made up a back story for them. i agree with you 100 percent
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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04/27/06 04:57 AM
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I think Vincent would have been a good Don. Although I think ‘they’ weren’t going to make it easy on him… so he was probably going to be forced to ‘prove’ himself, maybe even in the way Michael did in GFI. The fact that Michael found peace in Sicily tells me he had faith in Vincent and therefore ‘the family’ didn’t need his protection anymore. I don’t believe he would allow quarrels between ‘brothers’. The Corleone’s are Sicilian and therefore as Michael had appointed Vincent as his follower that decision was to be respected. But… when Michael dies… then the trouble starts for Vincent. Other families start questioning him… after all he is a ‘bastardo’. Vincent was tutored well; Michael probably gave him Vito’s legacy, the wisdom, the vigilance, the brilliance of outsmarting… Vincent was probably going to have a hard time, maybe even people in his surroundings would betray him… men he doubted showed to be faithful… and the game was also becoming more complicated and dangerous as other nations become powerful not to forget that Narcotics was going to reign the ‘Underworld’. But I think as he is a Corleone – he was to survive and live up the Corleone reputation. Was he going to live long enough to become old as well? I don’t know. But if he uses the knowledge that was given to him… yes…. I believe he would make it… who knows… maybe even have same ambitions as Michael – make the ‘family businesses legitimate.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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Where do you find all these information? LOL
Well… if Michael had spent his last days on earth as a tortured soul and above all was blind – that I can not imagine… I cant, I wont!
That Vincent plunged the family into drugs was predictable – he had no choice. If he wanted the family to be strong he was obliged to go along… Narcotics were the future in Michael’s young days… in Vincent’s days – reality. He must have worked with Pablo Escobar, but I don’t believe ‘under’ him…
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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I was watching GFIII last night and one line resonated with me - Michael tells Vincent that he is the only one left in the family with his father's strength. Do you think this is true? It also surprises me that the sole remaining heir to the Corleone dynasty turns out to be Sonny's bastard child (no disrespect intended)
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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Originally posted by Paul Krendler: I was watching GFIII last night and one line resonated with me - Michael tells Vincent that he is the only one left in the family with his father's strength. Do you think this is true? It also surprises me that the sole remaining heir to the Corleone dynasty turns out to be Sonny's bastard child (no disrespect intended) Connie told Vincent that.
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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Too bad man....this is an example of how ppl r screwing up wid the story be it FFC wid GF4 or the stupid author of Godfather Returns...or whatever the name's......stop it guys....the Mario Puzo--FFC saga is a classic
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Re: VINCENT CORLEONE
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That would be a problem Don Pacino. Ellis Island was only used sporadically after the immigration quota laws were passed in 1924. As of 1966 it has been listed on the National Register Of Historic Places. Meaning, it was closed long before Vincent was an itch in Sonny's pants or Lucy Mancini's bridesmaid's dress
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