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Ricardo's Treatment 1927-1944 #206674
05/10/02 06:25 PM
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ACT I: 1927
In August 1927, Vito and Carmella celebrated their 15th Wedding Anniversary. Their children: Santino, Frederico, Miguelo, and Constanzia were seated with their family. Vito’s Uncle Oreste Abbandando and Aunt Francesca Abbandando were with their son Genco, his wife Carla, and their two daughters. Oreste wheeled a cake over to Vito while a tarantella played. Vito gave a speech in front of his friends and family. Vito, and Genco played Bocce with their friends Peter Clemenza and Salvatore Tessio. Vito told them to meet him at GPOC the Next day. Hyman Rothstein and his brother Sam were seated with Moe Greene and Johnny Ola. They discussed Prohibition and Hyman said he could get them a meeting with Vito. Carmine Coppola played a Flute solo for his Godfather Vito. The tune reminded Vito of his father, Antonio Andolini, back in Sicily in 1901. Antonio told his sons, Vitone and Paolo, that he had to go to court for Don Francesco Ciccio to testify for his nephew Mosca Donatone. He feared that if he did not he would be murdered by the Don’s son, Strollo. Vito remembered his father’s funeral when his brother Paolo was killed. He remembered his mother, Maria, being murdered and his immigration to America. He remembered being adopted by Oreste and going to work for him at Abbandando grocery. When the song ended Vito embraced his Godson, and walked him back to his father, Augustino Coppola. Later that night, after most of the party had left, Vito talked to Santino, while Clemenza, Tessio, and Rothstein played cards. While they were cleaning up, Thomas Hagen came up to Vito, and told him Joe Maresia was pressuring him into paying him monthly protection he could not afford.

The next day, Vito met with his friends at GPOC. Vito talked of killing Ciccio, Mosca, and Strollo in Sicily. He talked of Vittorio Tommasino becoming Mike’s Godfather, and Elias Altobello becoming Connie’s Godfather. Clemenza told him that while he was away in Sicily Sal Maranzello had recruited Ottilio Cuneo, the nephew of the slain Giuseppe Fanucci, and they had been collecting protection in Vito’s neighborhood. Vito formed the Corleone Family and sent Tessio and Clemenza out to recruit. Rothstein told Vito of his meeting with Greene. He told of the Smuggling Ring and asked Vito if he would like to participate. Vito agreed and sent Rothstein to Chicago to set up the ring with John Riotro. Genco informed the GPOC workers of the new Family, while Tessio recruited neighborhood men. Clemenza walked over to the school to walk his son, Richard, and his Godson, Santino, over to Abbandando Grosseria for Cannolies. While at the Grosseria, Clemenza talked to Genco’s brother, Ernesto, and young Nazorine Paniterra. Oreste walked out from the back room with Ottilio Cuneo. Ottilio and Peter glared at each other as Ottilio left. Oreste told the men that after working at AG for 8 years, Cuneo was quitting his job to work for Sal Maranzello. He had come back to tell Oreste that for his help he would be exempt from paying protection. Later that night as Vito was having dinner with his family, Clemenza called and told him of Cuneo’s meeting with Oreste.

The next day when Vito went to GPOC, his workers and new friends all kissed his hand, and called him Don Corleone. Carmella’s brother, Bruno DeSapio, and Augustino Coppola were members of the new Family and escorted Vito to his office. Vito hung a picture of his family in Sicily on the wall behind his desk. He told Tessio and Clemenza how his friend Tommasino was now the Don and that most of Sicily was under his control. The remaining members of Ciccio’s Family had left for America with Joe Maresia. Vito presented Clemenza with a picture of his brother Domenick, and told how he had met his cousin Stefan Andolini for the first time. Later that week, Rothstein returned from Chicago and showed up at GPOC with Ola and Greene. He told Vito that Riotro was retiring but that they had set up the operation with Ralph Capone. Rothstein told Vito that they were supposed to meet ships at the docks and then load the alcohol and molasses into GPOC delivery trucks and drive them to Buffalo, NY, where they would be smuggled into Canada and through Detroit to Chicago. Vito put Rothstein in charge of the operation and told him he would handle meetings with Capone and others if there were problems. Rothstein, his brother Sam, Johnny Ola, Moe Greene, and others took part in the smuggling operation. Sal Tessio kept an eye on them and reported back to Vito.

In June 1928, Filomena Paniterra, wife of Nazorine, awoke to find a huge man, Luca Brasi, knocking on her front door. He told her he needed her help, and he would pay her. She agreed and Luca rushed her to a Ford. When they arrived at Brasi’s Apartment in Long Island, he hurried Filomena into the bedroom. On the bed was an Irish woman ready to give birth. Luca told Filomena she was his girlfriend, Claire, and that he needed her to deliver the baby. She did and Luca forced her at knifepoint to throw the baby into the basement furnace. Only after Luca cut her arm did she reluctantly toss the baby into the fire and run from the house. Luca went upstairs and stabbed Claire to death. The next day Carmine Coronda who worked for Vito and lived next door to Luca told Vito that Filomena had ran to his home last night. She told him of her horrible deed, and when Coronda told Vito, Vito told him to get Clemenza to kill Luca. Clemenza told Vito that Luca was in jail, but that he was a powerful man and if Vito persuaded him he could be a great use to the family. Vito went to the jailhouse to talk to Luca, but found out that Luca had just slashed his throat with a piece of glass, and he was receiving medical attention. After that, Vito talked to Luca and told him he would help him out of his troubles. Luca told Vito he wanted to die, and that nothing could stop him. Vito persuaded Luca to work for him by telling him that either he could kill for Vito, or Vito would see to it that rather than die he’d spend the rest of his life in jail. Luca agreed and Vito posted his bail. He told Luca that if he thought a cut throat was a quick way to die, that if he ever betrayed Vito he would suffer for weeks while slowly dying. Vito was the only man that Luca ever feared.

A week later Vito met with Police Chief Sterling McCluskey at Scarpato’s restaurant. Vito proposed to pay the entire force for their services and the first service would be to pardon Luca for the murder. The chief agreed but said he would not partake in any other illegal activities such as Gambling, Prostitution, Smuggling, Alcohol, Murder, or armed Robbery. While at the restaurant, Vito talked to Augustino Coppola’s cousin, Al Fontane. Fontane told Vito that his son, Johnny would be receiving Confirmation the next Easter. The boy’s Godfather, Rafilo Valenti had been murdered the year before over a disagreement with an Irishman, Seamus McGhee. Fontane’s Godchildren, Nino and Romane Valenti, lived with him and he couldn’t afford to pay protection to Maresia. Vito told him he would help, but that Johnny deserved a Godfather, and asked if he could be Godfather for Johnny’s Confirmation. Fontane happily agreed. On Easter 1929, Vito and his family, including the Abbandandos were present at Johnny’s Confirmation. Vito became the Godfather, and gave Johnny a Twenty-Dollar Gold piece.

For nearly two years, the smuggling ring went without a hitch. Then in May 1929, Santino came home late one night with Tom Hagen Junior. Santino told his father, that Ernesto had found Tom sleeping behind AG and had sent him home with Santino. Tom told Vito that his father had disappeared the week before. He told Vito that his father had been meeting with a man he referred to as Signor Giuseppe. His father had told him that he didn’t have enough money to pay Signor Giuseppe. He had disappeared the next day; Tom came home from school and hadn’t seen his father in a week. Carmella fed the boys as Vito called Clemenza and sent him over to the Hagen house. He called back later and said that the house was deserted. Vito feared that the father had been murdered, but he told Tom he could stay with his family until they found his father. Soon after, Vito met with Maresia in Central Park. Maresia said he hadn’t heard from Hagen and that he thought that he had skipped town to avoid paying him.

A few days later, Bruno ran into Vito’s office at GPOC with a newspaper. Vito read the paper and found out that the body of Tom Hagen Senior had been found in a basement in Brooklyn. The police didn’t have any suspects. Vito knew Maresia must have been involved and set up a meeting disguised as discussing Prohibition. The meeting took place in July 1929 at the Utica Zoo, in Utica, NY. Sal Maranzello, Ottilio Cuneo, Joe Maresia, Vito Corleone, Sal Tessio, Hyman Rothstein, Moe Greene, Ralph Capone, John Riotro, Philip Tattaglia, Dutch Saietta, Ceasar Malare, Gaetano Isabella, Hector Mangano, Richard Pelley, Louis Bocchicchio, Davide Fierra, David McKigney, and Seamus McGhee were at this meeting. Tattaglia was a Maresian Capo; Saietta was a Jewish Friend of Greene’s who drove the trucks to Buffalo, where they were picked up by Hector Mangano. Mangano sent them to Malare in Detroit. Pelley was a Jewish man who was involved with Johnny Ola. McKigney and McGhee represented the Irish Mob. Isabella was the Don of Long Island who informed Rothstein when the smuggling ships came in. Fierra was an independent Don who had been pressured lately by Maresia. Bocchicchio was alone in America but was close with his brother Guido in Sicily, who sent the alcohol to America on the same ships that Vittorio Tommasino sent Olive Oil to Vito. Riotro was there to head the meeting before retiring to Sicily. Rothstein informed the others that a man named Gianni Rizzi from Carson City, Nevada, was sponsoring a man from President Hoover’s Party as Governor of Nevada who was going to legalize Prostitution, Gambling, and Alcohol in Nevada. He needed monetary backing from New York to sponsor the Governor. Maranzello, Corleone, and Isabella agreed to back the Governor, but Maresia refused. He left the meeting with Tattaglia, Capone, and Malare. The Irish Mob declined to get involved since they wouldn’t benefit in New York from actions in Nevada. They left the meeting. Maranzello proposed that they should eliminate Maresia to insure the rest of them that they would benefit from Nevada’s Legalization and later Legalization in New York. Vito suggested they should wait to kill Maresia. Fierra wanted Maresia killed right away to get him off his back.

Re: Ricardo's Treatment 1927-1944 #206675
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Not a word?

Re: Ricardo's Treatment 1927-1944 #206676
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HEY THAT IS GREAT.TRY MAKING A GODFATHER V BOOK.WHAT DO U SAY RICARDO?


FORGET ABOUT It!!!
Re: Ricardo's Treatment 1927-1944 #206677
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I was waiting for a reply, i'll post ACT 2 in the next day or two. Just so you know there is ONLY one book. And we'd probably want 4 before 5 (We saw what happened to the Michael Myers/Halloween series)

I'm SO Proud

Re: Ricardo's Treatment 1927-1944 #206678
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ACT II: 1933
By 1933, Governor Rudy Geary had been elected in Nevada. He had legalized Gambling, Alcohol, and Prostitution just like he said. Gianni Rizzi opened the first legal Casino, Lady Luck, in Carson City in 1933. Governor Geary’s son, Pat, was at the Grand Opening for the 4th of July, as well as the Rothsteins, Ola, Greene, Vito Corleone, Al Fontane, Ottilio Cuneo, Peter Clemenza, Dutch Saietta, Phil Volpe, Caesar Malare, and Louis Bocchicchio. Volpe was a friend of Hyman Rothstein and was Don of Pennsylvania. Fontane was a bartender at the Casino and introduced Vito to his new friend, Salvatore Maritato. Maritato was the husband of Gianni’s sister, Victoria. Vito wished both of them good luck. The Casino was a success and Rizzi opened Lady Luck’s Hotel soon after. Hyman introduced Vito and Clemenza to Anthony Molinari. He was the Don of San Francisco. He introduced Vito to his nephew Francesco Valliere who was to be his Capo in charge of Nevada. His other Capo Frank Falcone was in charge of Los Angeles. He was there with a man named Jack Woltz who had recently opened a Movie Theatre in Carson City. Clemenza had a drinking contest with a man named Joeseph Zaluchi. When they found that neither could drink the other under the table, they congratulated each other. Joeseph introduced himself as the Underboss to Don Malare in Detroit. He told Clemenza that Malare was in big with Ralph Capone, and Joe Maresia, and that they were Moustache Petes who weren’t in favor of new business ventures. He had to twist Malare’s arm to invest in Governor Geary’s Campaign. Saietta was celebrating with Moe Greene and Johnny Ola when Ola brought up the fact that Thomas Dewey was running for Governor of New York. If he was elected he would crack down on Organized Crime and chances of Legalization were very slim. Saietta was drunk and said that if Dewey got elected he’d kill the F*cker himself.

After the Grand Opening, Vito, Clemenza, and Hyman Rothstein returned to New York together. Rothstein told Vito that Greene had overheard Saietta say he’d kill Dewey. Vito was worried, that Maresia would side with Saietta because he was in favor of Legalization in New York, and Dewey was an obstacle that could be overcome. Around this time, Philip Tattaglia’s two sons, Giovanni, and Bruno, were schoolyard bullies who picked on Fredo and Michael Corleone, and Paulie Gatto daily. When Santino found out, he broke Bruno’s ribs. The older John Tattaglia challenged Santino to a fight in Central Park. Santino showed up with Tom Hagen, Johnny Fontane, Nino Valenti, and Richard Clemenza. Santino proceeded to beat the bigger John Tattaglia, while the others cheered him on and held Tattaglia’s friends back. Philip Tattaglia found out and had Chief McCluskey and his son, Mark McCluskey arrest Santino for Assault. Vito’s previous payroll allowed for the McCluskey’s to release Santino the next. Vito met with Philip Tattaglia and persuaded him to drop the charges and offered his friendship. Tattaglia spit on the floor and said he’d piss on Vito’s friendship.

The next February, Richie Pelley was shot dead walking out of a Jewish tabernacle. He collapsed in a snow bank, and stained it blood red. The next day, a GPOC driver, Mario Nippi, was walking home from work when he was shotgunned by Philip Tattaglia. Vito suspected Maresia’s involvement in both hits due to Tattaglia, and Maresia’s hate of the Jewish Religion. Vito retaliated by sending Bruno DeSapio to Buffalo hidden in a delivery truck met by Alfredo Mangano. After the shipment was delivered, Bruno followed Alfredo home. He ran up the fire escape and hid outside Mangano’s window. Alfredo was met at the door by his brother, Hector. When they were together, Bruno drew his gun and blasted three shots through the open apartment window. Both brothers died and Bruno fled the scene reappearing in Little Italy the next day. After kissing his wife goodbye, Davide Fierra was shot dead outside of his home. The shooter was identified as Buster McGurn, an old friend of Ralph Capone. He fled New York before the Police could find him.

Now that Ralph Capone was involved, Vito called Hyman Rothstein who delivered a message from Vito to Anthony Molinari. On Independence Day, 1933, Ceasar Malare was in his home with his Underboss, Joe Zaluchi, and Frank Falcone, Francesco Valliere, and Anthony Stracci from the Molinari Family. Malare asked the men if Anthony Molinari would participate in a hit on Don Vito Corleone. They agreed, and as Malare poured some drinks, Joe Zaluchi rose and said he had a message from Vito Corleone. Stracci, Valliere, Falcone, and Joe then proceeded to Tommy-Gun the Don in his own home. They fled his home and disappeared into the parade outside. They reconvened across town, and the men kissed Joeseph’s hand, calling him Don Zaluchi. Soon after, Don Molinari and Don Zaluchi met with Don Corleone in Buffalo under the protection of Louis Bocchicchio. They planned a hit on Don Maresia. Soon after, Frank Pentangeli, a man recruited by Peter Clemenza, shot and killed Ciro Tattaglia, brother of Maresian lieutenant Philip Tattaglia. Salvatore Ormenta, a man who had roomed with Vito Corleone on Ellis Island in 1902 when he was just a boy, was shot and killed by Ottilio Cuneo in Early August.

In late August 1933, Salvatore Tessio and Giusppe Maresia were having dinner at Scarpato’s Restaurant on Coney Island. Tessio excused himself to go to the bathroom. Shortly after he left the room, Moe Greene, Dutch Saietta, Sam Rothstein, and Anthony Stracci burst into the restaurant and fired at Maresia for a full minute. They fled the restaurant to where Tessio was waiting with a getaway car. Gerardo Scarpato robbed Maresia before calling the police. He testified to the Police that it was a robbery gone wrong. They didn’t believe him, and he was called in for questioning. On the morning of the day he was supposed to be questioned, he was found dead in a trunk. Soon after, Sal Maranzello called a meeting at Grand Concourse in the Bronx. Dutch Saietta, the Rothsteins, Moe Greene, Johnny Ola, Gianni Rizzi, Don Zaluchi, Don Molinari, Anthony Stracci, Gaetano Isabella, Louis Bocchicchio, Philip Tattaglia, Ottilio Cuneo, Ralph Capone, Vito Corleone, Salvatore Tessio, Peter Clemenza, and Benito Parri, Underboss to Isabella, were there. Hyman Rothstein named the men in the room the Commission. Sal Maranzello gave Cuneo, Tattaglia, Isabella, Tessio, and Stracci their own Families, of which he would be the Capo Di Tutti Capi.

Soon after, Vito Corleone met again with Zaluchi, Molinari, and Hyman Rothstein. Thomas Dewey had been investigating the War of 1933, and Vito feared that Saietta would eliminate him. Vito was angered that Maranzello didn’t think enough of him to give him his own Family. On Labor Day, 1933, Dutch Saietta was celebrating at the Chophouse in Newark, New Jersey, with his friends Moe Greene, Louis Bocchicchio, Hyman Rothstein, Sam Rothstein, Johnny Ola, Phil Volpe, and some other bodyguards. When Saietta lost $5,000 playing poker, he knocked the table over, and stormed into the bathroom. Rothstein had expected this and his men got up to leave but all turned and fired killing most of Saietta’s bodyguards. The loud shootout startled Saietta and he tired to escape out of the bathroom window. Louis Bocchicchio ran into the bathroom and fired three shots into Saietta’s back. After Rothstein’s men fled, one of Saietta’s surviving bodyguards called for a doctor. Saietta survived for two days, when Captain McCluskey came to interview him all he could mumble was something about Louis Bocchicchio and a $5,000 card game. That same night, Bruno, Parri, Isabella, and Frank Pentangeli, disguised as police officers, stormed up the stairs of Maranzello’s Office Building. They found Maranzello in his office with Philip Tattaglia. Tattaglia jumped up and stabbed Maranzello in the chest, and ran out of the room as the four men opened fire, killing Maranzello.

Shortly after, Buster McGurn and Frank Capone, arrived at a Train Station in Brooklyn. Luca Brasi met them and drove them to a warehouse, where he told them Vito Corleone would arrive shortly. As the men got out of the car, Luca attacked them. McGurn went for his suitcase, but Luca put his head through the windshield. Luca beat Capone and dragged both men over to an assembly line. He tied them both to the assembly line and stuffed their mouths with bath towels. Luca proceeded to hack Capone up with an axe. By the time he went to hack McGurn he discovered he had swallowed the towel in sheer terror. Luca dumped McGurn in a dumpster, and boxed the body parts of Frank Capone. Shortly after, Ralph Capone received the remains of his brother, Frank, and a note from Vito Corleone telling him to keep out of NY business. When the Police found the body of McGurn they found the bath towel deep inside of his stomach, nearly into his anus.

(I HAD to add the Damn Capones in somewhere, I didn't add Al, but I DID add Ralph and Frank, what else could I name the Chicago DOn?)

Re: Ricardo's Treatment 1927-1944 #206679
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I thought your treatment was good, however, I always enjoyed the homespun aspects of the family. Sometimes, even more so than the family business.


Send the car for me too, mama
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Quote:
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I thought your treatment was good, however, I always enjoyed the homespun aspects of the family. Sometimes, even more so than the family business.
For instance what were you expecting? More on Vito's homelife? (Comes into play later on in story) More on Sonny's life? (Coming next Chapter!) More on Connie etc. will be in Act 5!

OR more of Vito/Tessio/Clemenza/Genco/Luca discussing their plans, or what?

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I want to see story lines of Sonny beating up guys because they refuse to take his homely sister out.


Send the car for me too, mama
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I want to see story lines of Sonny beating up guys because they refuse to take his homely sister out.


Send the car for me too, mama
Re: Ricardo's Treatment 1927-1944 #206683
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Ricardo:

This is great stuff - please keep it up!


"People who are not serious, should not be taken seriously"
Re: Ricardo's Treatment 1927-1944 #206684
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Quote:
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I want to see story lines of Sonny beating up guys because they refuse to take his homely sister out.
As far as I know, that never happened in the Puzo book, let me see about that.

We're just getting into Sonny's teen years. There are 3 MORE act scoming, i'm working on Act 3 of 5. It deals with the Irish War of 1936!

I'll post it soon enough.

At this point Connie is like 10, so wait acouple years. After Irish war.

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this is great entairtaiment man.

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I Remember U Posting A GF4 Script Ages Ago Ricardo....That Was Ill I Remember, Check Your Pm's Btw

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Ricardo - your ideas are always a real pleasure to read.

I greatly enjoy your careful integration of familiar names to your work; and the importance you place on US historical context.

Your attention to detail is very impressive.
I wish you well for the future.

P.S. I hope you get back posting lots soon.
My first ever post was in response to a query you had about Once Upon A Time in America.

Little did I then know that I was dealing with
such a well informed person on the subjects of movies and gangster history. Keep it up!

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I like this so far but could you get act 3 or 4 in?


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Great stuff Ricardo - I hope you'll continue it.


I ain't no band leader.
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Ricardo is on the lam at the minute, i'm running his end of the things for now. But unfortunately I don't have the brains for this work.


So die all who betray Giuliano
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Ricardo is on the lam at the minute, i'm running his end of the things for now. But unfortunately I don't have the brains for this work.

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We don't have Ricardo's brains for big deals.
What we do is a street thing. So let's get'em, let's hit 'em all, while we still got the muscle!


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Riccardo, do you have any kind of web page?


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I enjoyed reading Ricardo’s ideas for a Godfather IV script. It has been a while since Ricardo posted the first two acts, promising us more (at least 3 new ones). I was wondering if the story would ever be finished...

I’m still hoping it will be finished, and I had a few comments.

The general idea for a GF4 story was to put the life of Sonny Corleone against that of his (illegal) son Vincent, so a GF4 movie would contain both modern-time scenes as old-time scenes.

Now if Ricardo’s plan was to center the upcoming acts of the old-story around a young Sonny, I wonder if he used his birthyear of the novel (1910) or the film (1916)? I guess the second one, since it's an idea for a movie-sequel, not a novel-sequel? In the movie Sonny's 6 years younger then Tom.

Also, I wondered if he was planning to include a modern-time story with Vincent.

As being a movie like GF2, you can think of an short Sicily-related beginning, starting the modern-story where GF3 ended: with the Death of Michael Corleone, to mark once again the end of the Michael-story in the movie Franchise. This would bring all of the (living) family members from America to Sicily one last time. The entire, not too long, scene would end with a shot of Vincent, with the text on screen: [Vincent Corleone, 1997], then fading into an image of a young Sonny at his parents 15th Wedding Anniversary (where your story begins) saying [his father Santino, 1927].... this is a similar beginning to Part II. From there you can start on the movie with storylines in the 1920's en 1930's and in the 1990's and 2000's.

On one of the other threads on the Bulletin Board, it was suggested that Michael's son Anthony could emerge from a good-boy to a ruthless-killer like his father, now wanting to avenge his sister's death. Wether this should happen after the 1997 funeral of his father, (not wanting his father to see him as a murderer) or after the 1980 shooting in Palermo of his sister, I don't know.
But it is an interesting feature, and could end up in a fight over control of the Family between Vincent and Anthony, for a plot for the modern-story.
Also, there should be a lot of new characters to make the modern-story spectacular and interesting. Maybe a comeback of the Tattaglia family, or the Ciccio family: a lost grandson or whatever.
In GF2, there was about twice as much footage of the modern, 50's story then the old story. In this movie, it should be the other way around I guess, so that the Vincent character and his story is much shorter then the already appreciated Young Sonny story in the 20's and 30's.

Personally, I think the ending of the old-story should be around 1935. In the novel, at the period after the war in 1945, it is repeatedly said the last big gang-war was ten years ago, with the Corleone's as the winners. It would be, probably, the first happy-end to a Godfather film, leading into a ten-year period of wealth. Since Sonny is only 19 by then (Vincent already is much older in 1997), I wonder what can be done about that. I don't know. It would definitely interfear with the book if the old story would go on in the second half of the 1930's.

I hope the story will be finished, both the old story as a new modern one.

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Yo Pherdy, another Dutch guy. I don't want to insult you but it's "The Netherlands" not "The Nederlands". I suggest you chance it.

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I'm pretty surprised to have made such a huge mistake myself, but I will change it rightaway, thanks.

(alhoewel de fout natuurlijk niet geheel verwonderlijk is, om het op onze eigen manier geschreven te hebben:)

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Quote:
Originally posted by Pherdy:

(alhoewel de fout natuurlijk niet geheel verwonderlijk is, om het op onze eigen manier geschreven te hebben:)
:)

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Quote:
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(alhoewel de fout natuurlijk niet geheel verwonderlijk is, om het op onze eigen manier geschreven te hebben:)
You just call my mum a fat slag?


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Yes totally correct. No just kidding. I'll try to translate it for you guys.

"This fault is not totally a stupid mistake, because I wrote it on our (Dutch) way."

I hope you get it.

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It's alright man, I was only kidding. I was actually confused when you said it wasn't the Nederlands because that's how you say it there. Not a big thing.


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Hey Guys apparently, my post last night didn't go through.

I lost my web space.

But i'll try to get my another site up soon.

If you're intersted i also wrote a timeline that ran from 1887-1970, with MUCh information.

I believe Turi might have read it. It dealt with Fidel Castro, and Pentangeli's son!

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I believe the entire era of 1958 to 1979 is extremely interesting for additional storytelling to the Godfather movie saga. So much could have happend in that period.

Would Michael remain lonely from the end of GFII until the start of III? Or did he operate in more illegitimate businesses throughout these years? When, how and why was Joey Zasa entered in the Corleone Family, what about Young Vincent, etcetera etcetera.

I'm very interested in the timeline, Ricardo!

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Quote:
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I believe the entire era of 1958 to 1979 is extremely interesting for additional storytelling to the Godfather movie saga. So much could have happend in that period.

Would Michael remain lonely from the end of GFII until the start of III? Or did he operate in more illegitimate businesses throughout these years? When, how and why was Joey Zasa entered in the Corleone Family, what about Young Vincent, etcetera etcetera.

I'm very interested in the timeline, Ricardo!
I wrote it in February 2002, and just looked at it after 6 months and realized it's written pretty poorly and th estory lack sin soem places..but then sgain..a writer is his own worst critic, some of it is extraordianry!

I'll try and post a site soon!

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looking forward to all of it!

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Pherdy, that's a great idea, yoi could make an awesome transition from "Vincenzo Corleone-New York City-1985" to "Santino Corleone-Long Beach-1933", much like the trnasition from "Vito Corleone-Ellis Island-1901" to "His Grandson-Anthony Vito Corleone-Lake Tahoe, Nevada-1958." I'd love to see it!


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just keep in mind that it will never happen. It would have been a nice idea, but a GF 4 to happen for real is wrong (maybe GF 3 was wrong too).

When I first saw the trilogy I fell in love with it, and started looking for information and stuff on the web. When I found out about the possibility of a GF4 I was thrilled, but lately I have come to realize that it would be a bad idea.

But to make up a story that would have been a nice GF4 story is fun, and I think many of the people on this message board have lots of ideas.

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just keep in mind that it will never happen. It would have been a nice idea, but a GF 4 to happen for real is wrong (maybe GF 3 was wrong too).

When I first saw the trilogy I fell in love with it, and started looking for information and stuff on the web. When I found out about the possibility of a GF4 I was thrilled, but lately I have come to realize that it would be a bad idea.

But to make up a story that would have been a nice GF4 story is fun, and I think many of the people on this message board have lots of ideas.
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Does anyone have any site space i can post mine at?

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What's up guys?

No one ever replies to this!!! It's been lying in wait for a month!

Anybody got webspace?

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Hi Ricardo !

I got free webspace to offer you if you want. PM me and we'll make the deal !


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Mierda, I just finished reading the whole f*cking thing and I'm f*cking blown away. Obtuvimos un nuevo Mario Puzo on our hands!


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Hi Ricardo !

I got free webspace to offer you if you want. PM me and we'll make the deal !
Hi Almamater...How are you?

Do you remember 2 years ago when i e-mailed you my script....do you still happen to have that???

i think there were 25 HTML Pages. They were named GFIVP3, GFP4, etc. something like that. If you do still have these it would be greatly appreciated, i no longer have those anymore. Thanks Alma.

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Wow, interesting reading... I never saw this thread before.. it was "before my time" so to speak, but it does cover a lot of details I think a lot of us have tried to touch on in our GF IV story ideas.

More more more... heheh!!


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why couldn't the get you to write GFReturns?!?!?

Good work man, I'm waiting for more!


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Hey Guys I'm new to this forum but have been a huge Godfather fan since I was little. I just have a question? Ricardo I've been looking all over for the third through the fifth acts of your script, bro. Where is it, now? I'm in the process of trying my hand at writing also but i love a good read.


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