This was inspired the question from Vendetta. If they did make the much rumored GF4 with the plot of young Sonny and present-day Vincent if money was no concern who would you cast. It is a given that Andy Garcia would return as Vincent and Leo DiCaprio as young Sonny, but who would play:

Micheal, Tom, Fredo, Connie as twenysomethings and
Tessio, Brasi, Clemenza, Carmella and Vito as middle aged.

Some Suggestions
Steve Buschemi as Tessio
Vin Diesel as Luca Brasi
Giovanni Ribisi as Fredo
Paul Sorvinio as Clemenza
Charlize Theron as Kay

what are your thoughts

Michael Madsen as Sonny.
Edward Norton as Fredo.

[ November 07, 2001: Message edited by: MobbingForMoney ]

Why would DiCaprio be a "given" for Sonny? I'd prefer someone else...anyone else.

My cast- Also keep in mind that if there was a GF IV, Sonny Corleone will be the main character
Sonny Corleone- Leonardo Dicaprio
Vito Corleone- Robert De Niro
Michael Corleone- Matthew Broderick (Just watched "Glory" and Broderick is perfect for Michael)
Thomas Hagen- Ed Harris
Luca Brasi- The Big Show Paul Wight, perfect for this role.

"Big Show" Paul Wight, I love it!

Glory is a great movie, Broderick was excellent.

How old would Sonny and Tom be in the movie? I think Ed Harris may be a little too old to play the part. Especially since him and Sonny are around the same age. I'm still not too keen on Leo as Sonny, but maybe that's just me.

Ken Olin as Michael?

He has the mixture of cultured good looks, quiet intellect, with a hint of menace in his eyes....

If it an older Michael what about:
Richard Grieco aka Bugsy Seigel in "Mobsters" or
Jason Gedrick, he was excellent in Mario Puzo's
The Last Don I and II.

ooooo

Just a reminder. The fourth movie flashbacks was suppose to be about young Sonny. He was the oldest son in the family which would make Mike and Connie like 10 year old! Even Fredo would be to small to be played by Edward Norton like someone said.

Not if we go to their 20s.

They were already in their 20s in the first Godfather.

hehe
The fourth could be marketed as The Godfather for Teens! or not.

If they were in their 20s if would be sad to see all your favourite characters with different faces. Its not really a big difference between 20 and 25 as Michael was in the first film @ the wedding.

Eh,special effects are amazing these days.

Scott Caan as Sonny.

I've never seen The Godfather. Can you tell me what some of the characters look like and maybe I'll be able to tell you who can play them?

You have made over 174 posts and you have never seen the Godfather....wow, now that got to be something.

You have made over 174 posts and you have never seen the Godfather....wow, now that got to be something.[/b][/quote]Maybe he just likes Scarface A LOT! He seems to have wonderful ideas for Gf4, despite ever seeing the movies!

You have made over 174 posts and you have never seen the Godfather....wow, now that got to be something.[/b][/quote]lol exactly what i thought when i read it...also check out his signature hehehe

You have made over 174 posts and you have never seen the Godfather....wow, now that got to be something.[/b][/quote]lol exactly what i thought when i read it...also check out his signature hehehe[/b][/quote]Yeah, the Gf3 quote, from the guy who's never seen the movies, but wants to see Carmella Corleone's tits!

That's the YOUNG Carmella Corleone's tits! I would never wanna see Morgana King's saggy old tits. Ewwwww! And isn't se dead?

That's the YOUNG Carmella Corleone's tits! I would never wanna see Morgana King's saggy old tits. Ewwwww! And isn't se dead?[/b][/quote]Morgana died? RIP Too bad Ciccio and Rocco weren't in Gf3, they must have known 15 years before to kill their characters since the actors died in 89 and 92!

Robert De Niro as Vito
Tom Sizemore as Luca

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I command this family right or wrong . . . it was not what I wanted!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by goodfellaoggie:
[QB]Robert De Niro as Vito
Tom Sizemore as Luca

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Now Sizemore has that look to him. This is one place that I don't Think Tom Hanks would fit in...hahahha

I think Pauly Shore should play Vito Corleone. He proved himself to be a phenomenal actor in Bio-Dome and this might be his chance for an Oscar (TM).

Yeahj, and Jim Carrey can Tessio, Macaulay Culkin can play Pre-teen Sonny, DiCrapio can play Fredo, Shannon ELizabeth can play Kay, Spears can play Carmell, and Jamie Foxx can play Fontane...the "BLACK" Sheep!

Pacino can play Mike post-1980. Duvall cn play 60's/70's Hagen.

Ok, WORK with me here. Obviously, it'd take some make-up on some (and a LOT on others):
Michael (try not to laugh!): Adam Sandler
Tom: Bill Paxton ("Morgan" from Tombstone)
Fredo: Freddy Prinze, Jr.
Tessio: The same one who played him in GF II (I swear that guy never ages!)
Brasi: Paul Sarvino
Clemenza: Dennis Franz
Young Sonny (try not to puke!): Tom Cruise
Connie: Leah Remini (now THERE'S some hooters!)
and Vito: DeNiro, DeNiro, DeNiro!!

What's wrong with Bruno Kirby as Clemenza from GF2? Fredo Prinze COULD be good. Michael Sandler, this is not a F^CKING comedy! DeNiro OF COURSE!

Pesci maybe? Liotta, and Imperioli are good actors! Frank Vincent (Billy Bats, Goodfellas) could be good. Tony Soprano could be Luca brasi, MYABE!

Interesting idea for James Gandolfini for Luca, he could probably pull it off. Some of the other suggestions are good as well but a lot of the people suggested i think are too old. Think about it, one of the most important parts of Sonny's youth would be the war when he was 19, so michael would only be early to mid teens and hagen would also be around 19. I think it would be quite cunning to play tessio and clemenza from part II as this would prevent having so many actors playing the same characters.

i'll make another post with my suggestions when i have thought about it more.

If there was a part IV they could also show paulie rise, because in the book, it mentions that he was beginning to show promise, and had worked his way up through the ranks well.

In MY mind...

Paulie 'made his bones' after the war, when Sonny kicked the repairmen out and then Paulie and Clemenza drove the guys home, and Paulie killed one.

Paulie DID handle the Bonasera issue.

Paulie vs. Rocco would ahve been good, if Paulie had a chance
The ONLY shootout we saw was Cicci/Cops vs. Rosatos

some random ideas

imperioli to play paulie..

deniro of course as vito, we'll find out if leo could play sonny when Gangs of NY comes out...

michael, connie, and fredo are way too young to matter much..it's a waste of time to try to cast them...

gandolfini as luca would be a great device to get the film made, but sizemore looks more like lenny montana....that's a brilliant idea

if vince vaughn wasn't 50 feet tall, he might make an interesting sonny, but he's a bit old for the part, too

how about a couple of n sync or backstreet boys a the guys that luca chops up from chicago.....just so we can see it happen...(somebody's got to play that part)

there's should be no kay, but what about sandra???

Imp=Paulie, DEFINITELY!
DeNiro=Vito Definitely

Leo, NSync, BSB, chopped up, is a MUST
lol

The IMPORTANT Roles are:
Vito 35-50
Sonny 12-27
Clemenza 30's-40's
Tessio 30's-40's
Maranzello- 1927-1931
Genco 30-45
Carmella-35-50
Luca Brasi-30's-40's
Tom Hagen-12-27
Masseria-1927-1931

Philip Tattaglia-30's-40's
Emilio Barzini-40's-50's
Victor Stracci-40's-50's
Johnny Fontane-12-27
Michael Corleone-7-22
Fredo-8-23
Paulie Gatto- 18-28
Willy Cicci-1942
Irish Mob Boss-?
Al Capone- 1927-1931 (Prison)
Frank Pentangelli-30's-40's
Hyman Roth-40-55
Moe Greene-20's-30's
Johnny Ola-25-40
Sandra Corleone-20's-30's
Theresa Hagen-20's-30's
Francesca & Kathryn- infants
Frank Corleone-Infant
Frank Hagen-Infant
Andrew Hagen-Infant
Tommasino-35-50
Signor Abbandando-50-65

That should do it. Who ELSE could be important.

I think Matthew McConaughey would play great as Tom Hagen. And maybe Lillo Brancato could play Sonny.

queen,

i don't meant be rude, but i don't think lilo brancato would be convincing as the lead in "the lilo brancato story", much less sonny corleone. i know he has experience playing deniro's son, but c'mon....the kid's not much of an actor, and this is a great role...

what about that kid from "bully"...is he old enough???

What was wrong with Adam Sandler?

I'm not sure what role I'd like to see them play...but I'd love to see Marissa Tomei and/or Gina Gerzon in The Godfather Part 4...I've probably mispelled both of their last names, but I think either one could portray a younger Connie or an older Mary. Gina played one of the CBS lawyers in "The Insider" with Al Pacino and Russell Crowe and Old Blue Eyes'first wife in "Sinatra", the miniseries Tina Sinatra produced about her father.

I first saw Anthony LaPaglia in a TV movie called "Nitti" the enforcer, playing Frank Nitti who was Al Capone's sidekick. I always thought he would be right to play Vito Corleone during the 1920, 1930 years. Maybe it's just me but I always saw a resemblence to DeNiro. Acting, may be a whole other story. Just a thought...

older Mary.....Why would we need an Older Mary?

if there would be a GFIV i could be in it, forget those other actors! get a real italian in there.

Who would you play Donkey Boy's Stunt Man? Man #2 during Killin gof Donkey Boy. It would hav eto o with Donkey Boy.

Anyway, why would there be an older Mary, did you WATCH the end of GF3?

No way should Di Caprio play a young Sonny. He's not Sicilian enough. He is a pretty boy who had a good upbringing. He is a good actor but no Sonny, the natural traits are not there. Sorvino is too old to play Clemenza,likewise for Buscemi(although the two would be fantastic). Vin Diesel as Luca? Put Keanu Reeves in there as well. The worst actors in history! What made the Godfather so great was the acting ability of the entire cast. They were all connected to the NY Sicilian scene, so they were able to live the roles. Charlize Theron as Kaye? She's too hot. Kaye was a plain Jane, Charlize is too sexual and too old. Kirsten Dunst might be a better fit. The problem with casting these roles as younger than before, is that there aren't any kids out there who could pull it off. You would have to go back a generation or two. If not, you HAVE TO find a way to bring De Niro back in to the fold, and maybe James Gandolfini and some of the cast of the Sopranos. God I hate Andy Garcia in this series.

sorry there folks, sono un stunat', i was reading backwards to forwards and responded accordingly. i still stand by my words. We have forgotten a very capable actor- John Turturro, he could be a young Vito or Tessio, or even Barzini. Or Riccardo, he could be that lost cousin I was taliking about, Salvatore Lombardo.

How about an all black cast?:
Sonny Corleone- Samuel L. Jackson
Vito Corleone- James Earl Jones
Michael Corleone- Denzel Washington
Thomas Hagen- Morgan Freeman
Luca Brasi- The guy from "Green Mile"
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You know, I might have agreed that Leonardo DiCaprio was maybe not right for the part of Sonny. Last week at the movies, I saw previews of "Gangs of New York", and I have to admit, from what I saw, I think he could pull it off. He didn't have that "pretty boy" look. He did look harder/meaner. I think he might just work as Sonny. (Plus he is half Italian. (In spite of his last name, I didn't think he was for some reason, but recently found out he was.)

Kirsten Dunst? The Blonde Cheerleader? To Quote: Dumb Blondes...Hello! Duh! I LOVE Kirsten, but she's NOT Godfather material, LET alone Kay Adams!

Why can't Diane Keaton play Kay?

DREAM CAST GF4

Wasn't Pacino/Brando/Duvall/Castellano/Vigoda/Castellano/Strasberg/Lettieri/Hayden/Marley/Gazzo/Shire enough of a dream cast...?

As for Luca Brasi...Biff Tannen from back To the Future? Joe Pesci?

Black GF4?

Samuel Jackson, Morgan Freeman, Denzel, James Jones are MUSTS.

But wjat about...Family? Keenan and Damon Wayans?

Eddie Murphy?

Stax Edwards from Goodfellas.

Dmx, Master P, Nas

And people to kill....

P. Diddy, Ja Rule, Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Xzibit, AHHA nevermind.

John Turturro was aweoem as Aspanu Pisciotta!

I still stand by Kirsten Dumbst. Coppola did say that he loved Keaton's flightiness and eccentricities, I think Dumbst fits that bill. We need a porn Godfather- The RODFATHER. The fact remains that The Godfather films and book, remains the most influential piece of cinematography and book ever. We will not let that legacy die.

There could never be GF4. the Godfather trilogy is Michael's story, a modern greak tragedy: In GF1 Michael comes to power In GF2 he commites the ultimet sin (killing Fredo) and in Gf3 he gets punished by losing his daughter. There couldn't be Godfather without Michael.

I would cast myself as Kay. I get to be Pacino's partner

1927-1944 Michael's Rise as a Decent Human Being in Society Defending his Country in WW2

1955-1958 Michael's Move from NY and bids farewell to the haunting past of the Corleones

1960-1978 Michael pays the ultimate price and spends years hoping for redemption all alone in Lake Tahoe

1980-1997 Michael spends his lastyears mourning his daughter and the rest of his family while becoming aGodd father to Anthony supporting him in his Sicilian opera career. Before Mike dies he tries to get hsi nephew to bring some good to the Corleone name!

No one really seemed to buy my all black cast for Godfather 4. According to Dennis Hopper in the movie "True Romance" Sicillians are descendents of the Moors who were black. At least I think that is what he said, I saw it a long time ago.

So what are you going to do,get a time machine?
Then you could somehow reverse Michaels' looks to that time.

Sounds like the idea of a time machine in Godfather IV isnt too appealing.
(Vertigo)

So what are you going to do,get a time machine?
Then you could somehow reverse Michaels' looks to that time.

Sounds like the idea of a time machine in Godfather IV isnt too appealing.
(Vertigo)[/b][/quote]Dr. Mancini's Voyage Through Time

"In this brilliant film the viewer feels the emotion as we follow Dr. Mancini back through time 100 years to meet his Great-grandfather, then his Grandfather in the 1930's, then his father in the late 40's, and finally his uncle's lonesome life in the 1960's, as we return to the Present with tears in our eyes in this devoted and creative storyline...Based on Characters created by Mario Puzo."

Calogero if you've read the Sicilian by Puzo it goes into more epth about Sicilians and blacks and Arabians throughout Tunisia, etc.

I can lend a historical treatise on the island of Sicily and its people as well as the Moors; I am of Tunisian and Sicilian descent. Sicily was first inhabited by the phoenicians, a nomad tribe whose origins are obscure but thought to be from africa. Next came the Saraceni (saracens), this is how the sicilians describe the black arabs that inhabited the island also called moors by the americans. The greeks followed, then the romans, the normans(Norse French Vikings), finally this amalgamation was left to stand on its own following the sicilian vespers- the day that the sicilians rose up against norman rule and took back the island. Sicily is the puttana of the mediterranean, everyone wants to sleep with her but no one wants to take her home to mamma. You would be hard pressed to find a black person on the island, but you will see plenty of blondes and redheads. As for no GF4 due to the preceding films... The Godfather was based on the book, the subsequent films were based on screenplays that took the natural path, the rise and fall of Michael, where does that natural path lead us now? The problem is that we no longer have Puzo to write or corroberate with Coppola. I would hate to see the best film series of all time become riddled with bad acting and destroyed by the current crop of no talent, formulaic, screenwriters that have desecrated the cinema. Should it be done? Only if they can do it properly.

I agree, Puzo did his job of writing it. It's up to Paramount to do the rest. Casting, Filming, Producing, etc. DIRECTING, hopefully, FFC will return bu tth echances are 1 in 100, he didn;t even want to do Gf2!

GF3 was for the money.

GF4 would be for what? What would FFC gain by directing a GF4?

I;m for it, but i don't want bad acting, i'd rather just read Puzo's script, then watch a GF4 movie, FFC would just change everything anyway.

you know, i forgot to mention perhaps one of the best performances in a mafia related film/show. the guy who played richie aprile in the second season of the sopranos was unbelievably convincing and scary. he would be a ringer for any mob boss in the next big gangster film.

What is it with these wannabe fictionals ripping off other people's names.

The WHOLE Bella Mafia is about the Lucianos.

Aprile is STRAIGHT from Puzo's Omerta.

Puzo came up with Cuneo and Corleone by using amap, Barzini was the author of a book written in 1910 that Puzo once read, Tattaglia is a rearrange of Battaglia (THe CHiacgo Outfit), and Stracci, I dunno.

Bazzini pops up in Last Don 2, Barzini and Luciano in Bella Mafia.
et's not be creative, let's rip off Puzo and defame Lucky Luciano as being the ascendant of Mafia "Gals".

Couldn't they just be named Richie Provalone, or Marissa Palentino?

There's SO many Italian names you don't need to use a well-known Mafia name to draw attention!

in case anyone didn't already know this, and bear in mind i love puzo, he totally ripped off true stories for his books GF and the Sicilian. There is not an original idea in there, he just really had a knack for getting the information out there to a mass audience. Beyond that, the guy who plays richie aprile is an amazing actor and deserves a good role in any new mob film.

There is a difference between bting/ripping off and fictionalizing real events.

Puzo created most charcter names from scratch. He blended real events into ONE Historical Family's story.

Puzo's The Godfather is fictional, but is a better source of pre-1970 Mafia Knowledge than any REAL Book.

Real Events Puzo blended:
Fruitstand Murder: Frank Costello
Five Families
Castellamare War
Joe Valachi's Trial
Meyer Lansky's Havana Operations
Lansky's aide: Vinnie Alo
Son of a Don becoming Don: Bonnanos
Innocent Man to Electric Chair: Felix Bocchicchio
Eyeball Murder of Bugsy Siegel
Barbershop Murder of Albert Anastasia

and many others

Events Puzo created:
Horse Head in Bed
Killing of a NYPD Captain
Four Dons murdered in 1950's (Rather than 2)

and many others

Bottom Line: Puzo blended a near-complete History of the Mafia into one Story.

Bella Mafia and Soprano shav etheir own unique stories but settled on the specific names to gain attention rather than rely on their story to draw attention.

Godfather: Puzo blends a history of the Mafia into one classic story.

Bella Mafia: The women of the LUCIANO family

The Sopranos: HBO's R-Rated Tv Series of a Mafia Family in our times.

Sopranos didn't need a charcter anmed Richie Aprile to draw attention, they coudl agve used Richie Parile

Bella Mafia ws unknown and attarcted attention from th enam eLuciano.

Godfather didn't need ANY Real names to draw attention.

Comparing Bella Mafia and the Sopranos to The Godfather is a homocide waiting to happen.

keep in mind, without those 'borrowed themes' puzo never writes the godfather,plain and simple. as for the sicilian, he just rewrote the events and did not even bother to change the names. btw, you have some great ideas for the next film, keep running with it!

IS The Sicilian fiction? Or is it Puzo's secret biography of Salvatore Giuliano disguised as fiction? The events were REAL, the names were REAL.

Question for Turi..How popular is The Sicilian in SIcily? The book, not the Moovie! MOO!

that's what i said, the story is not fiction. the book is a historical fact with some liberties taken. the sicilians do not give a damn about the books, where the youth do not know much about giuliano the adults choose not to speak about it. he is a hero (giuliano) in some circles but really nothing more than who is a martyr for civil rights. like robin hood.

What happened to Guilianos' REAL son/ aughter, an dwife Justina/Giovanna or whatever it was in the Movie.

How big is The Godfather in Italy/Sicily? Russia? Japan? Chinka? (that's an uncalled for misspelling!)

It's funny that you ask, I was just speaking to a russian friend of mine today about the GF movies. She sais that it was quite popular there and that it had been translated into russian. As for Italy/Sicily, they all know of it but it has not reached the cult following that it has elsewhere. The Italians/Sicilians have a different view on life, cultural exchange is not a strong suit, and they do not believe in putting more than one type of meat on a sanguich! As for Japan and China, I have no idea, but in France and Germany, it is also quite popular, also in Cuba, as well as South America.

my favorite cast member have to be Angelina Jolie. It will be a good story line that Vincent falls for Angelina (playing a bad girl of course). He is so obsess in trying to get her he wants to steal her from her HUSBAND. He send out a contract to kill him (sort of a Richard III). Michael is doing to same thing with KAY.

the Flashback scenes will be the more violent part of the story.

EXACTLY what Puzo wrot ein his script exceopt the girl is Grace Hamiltn and she seduces Anthony (Later Vincent), and gets both of them killed!

Sonny-Ray Liota
Fredo-Michael Imperioli
Vito-Robert Deniro
Tessio-Frank Vincent

DeNiro as Vito is a MUST!

Vincent as Tessio is a GREAT idea i never thought of, he would be perfect!

ok, how old is ray liotta, probably a lot older than a teenage sonny, and why would we need a young kay? Mikey's gonna be about fifteen probably in the flashback bits, he wouldn't have known kay, and the flashbacks would hardly even focus on him at all as he would have very little to do with the family business at that stage, he's still in school.

Adam Sandler does not look Italian at all.Too much of a big nose.

Tom Cruise As micheal

I don't know what anyone else wrote but for characters like Luca Brasi and such there should be Italian actors.

Vito (young) - Adam Sandler
Vito (old) - Dom DeLuise
Michael - Keanu Reeves
Fredo - Tom Green
Clemenza (old) - Tom Arnold
Santino - Ice Cube
Kay - Pamela Anderson
Connie - Britney Spears
Tessio (old) - Kevin Costner
Mama (young) - Mariah Carey
Mama (old) - Jennifer Lopez
Johnny Fontaine - Eminem
Tom Hagen - Ben Affleck
Luca Brasi - Steve Guttenburg
Sollozzo - Jackie Chan
Cap'n McCluckey - Macauly Culkin
Barzini - Brendon Fraser
Tattaglia - Barbara Streisand
Carlo - Ice - T

They would be POIFECT!

Penguin

I hope you're kidding on the britney spears comment.

But as for Tom Green playing fredo. that would be perfect. A fool, playing a fool.

Hi Guys,

I'm new here but how does this hit you?

Part 4 is so inviting to me because I want ot see how Vito made the family business what it was in the first part, before it starts to crumble. Now one big role is that of Brasi. I think Crowe would be a great Brasi with Clooney and Lopez playing Vito and his wife. Before you scoff! Think about it; who better than the Gladiator himself to install fear into the hearts of mobsters. And Clooney can play the thinking criminal. Not forgetting the chemistry between he and Lopez.

What do you think?

Salut

Il Padrino 2002

Welcome, paisano.

Crowe does not have the menace to play Brasi, in my opinion. Clooney could certainly play a "thoughtful criminal", but not the Don! I certainly would not want either in GF4.

As for Lopez, well, I'm unsure, but her part would be small anyway so I could let it ride.

Gavin. Gavin. What have I ever done to make you show me so much disrespect?

Crowe is a great actor who could, I believe, capture the menace of Brasi. It's Bud White with no redeeming features except loyalty to the Don. And Clooney could be good. He has the looks, charm and ability to do it. He just needs to lose that happy look he has. But he can do it though. I remember him in thew perfect storm where he was very serious and that worked well.

Does anyone think that they have the technology to say take Brando from one of his earlier films and use his image from there. It would be brilliant if they could.

Padrino 2002

Padrino 2002 wrote:

"Does anyone think that they have the technology to say take Brando from one of his earlier films and use his image from there. It would be brilliant if they could."

What?! Are you kidding?!

DiCaprio is a *** , he couldn't play a Corleone.

Hi,

My ideas on a cast would be:

Vito Corleone-Robert DeNiro.
Vincent Corleone-Andy Garcia?
Young Santino Corleone-Scott Caan.
Young Fredo Corleone-Jason Cerbone.

Paul

I can see Russell Crowe as Tom Hagen perhaps. Also, for what it's worth, I wouldn't eliminate Leonardi DiCaprio either (I know most disagree). I think he could play a young Sonny.

TIS

Why would DiCaprio be a "given" for Sonny? I'd prefer someone else...anyone else. (ROCKY)

My thoughts exactly.

What about Heather Langenkamp portraying Connie?

I haven't sat and thought about this, but here are a few names-

The bloke that plays Chris in the Sopranos (for those who dont watch it, its the kid who Tommy (Peschi) shoots in the foot and later kills in Goodfellas). He could play Sonny but would he be to different looks-wise to Caan?

Also liked the Giovanni Ribisi and Gandolfini suggestions.

The movie, as a prequel, would be difficult to write and shoot I think, mainly because of the interchanging periods in GF2 with De Niro moving to America and raising a family.

De Niro would have to figure in the film somehow.

The only child-actor who I actually know the name of is that Haley Osmond (whatever!) from Sixth Sense.

How about Jude Law? He is a versatile actor but I'm not sure about the accent!

Michael Madsen was a good shout too.

Johnny Depp, perhaps? Ray Liotta?

Hi,
A few other actors that can be used are:

Joe Pesci.
David Proval.
Vincent Pastore.
Armand Assante.

Paul

The story-ideas for a GF4 almost all are about the ‘happy years’, the Corleone family in the nineteen twenties and thirties, during prohibition. But they also see a sort of GF2 movie with two time-periods. The thirties and the modern time, which can variate from the early eighties, when GF3 ended, or late ninetees, when Michael died, till present time. No one really seems interested in the modern-time story, which would include Don Vincenzo.

Off course, now Mario Puzo is dead, this story will be the most difficult to make up. Large parts of II and all of III were written by FFC and Mario Puzo together, so who must come up with what, for a new, part IV story? Because we can all sort of make up something what would’ve happen in the thirties. By the way, not only for present time there must be new characters, but for the 30’s story as well, otherwise, everyone (like the heads of the other families etc.) would live throughout GF4. There are too many characters (I mean, from three previous movies) who could be part in the thirties story; that’s undoable, since Sonny and Vito got to kill a few mobsters too.

Since we kinda like a parralel between Sonny and Vincent, similar to GF2, there must be a resembling storyline. And what’s to tell about Sonny? We know he gets shot in part one, just after he unofficially taken over control over the family. That’s in the late fourties! What power did he have in the thirties, besides being a hotheaded teenager? And I don’t think there should be a large part for Vito, since the Robert DeNiro from today is 30 years older then the DeNiro from GF2, while the ‘new’ Vito is only ten years older (or less), nor would it be possible (considering his non cameo-appearing in part II) to have Brando come back, as a Vito even younger then he played before.
And does this mean Vincent will be extinguished this way as well, or something? Who will follow him up, or will the Family finally be destroyed after Mancini?

The storyline for the Vincent-regime is just as interesting. It would be the only ‘new’ thing to the Godfather Saga. How about new characters? Or even old ones, because I can’t remember Kay, Connie, Andrew or Anthony dying? And what about the beautiful twins:) ? Even Al Pacino can comeback for just a short flash for a segment based somewhere between 1980 and 1997. Pacino these days looks younger then Michael at the end of GF3, so he’d be the only actor who must look older again.
If there should be an actor getting a part in a IV, it should be Nicolas Cage. Not only can he play a part in the old-time story, but also a new character, competing or collaborating with Vincent. Cage is Coppola’s nephew and co-producer of Part 3 (why didn’t he co-star back then?). His appearance would keep the ‘family’ spirit of the Godfather films, as it did in the other films (for part 3, Francis Ford Coppola used his entire family, it seems, in any form). Sofia Coppola can even write or direct or something, if Francis decides not to really be involved so much, and she can also star in “flashback-scenes” of Vincent thinking of her. In the same way old footage was fitted into part III, some scenes from earlier movies, like the shooting of Mary, can be in IV.

Further more, I think Jean Reno can be a young Luca Brasi. He has the same expression on his face, is slitely younger and thinner, and is European! No Italian though, I admit. Jeanne Tripplehorn is a good Sandra, I think, while Kevin Pollak should be Tessio or something. Altough Tessio in 1 was very tall, and Pollak is not. Benicio del Toro is a bit taller, and has a similar skin-colour als Abe Vigoda’s version of Tessio.
Paul Walker has about the same age as DiCaprio and Scott Caan, would they be Sonny. This leaves the door open for Walker to play a minor Tom Hagen part.
Some people referred to James Gandolfini or Joe Pesci: how about if they played the characters of Maranzello and all, the “new” characters fitted in the old-time storyline, who then can be killed or something. We know Tattaglia and Barzini won’t be! Brendan Fehr can be a young Hyman Roth, since he looks a bit like the young Hyman Roth from the GF2 deleted scenes.

Jennifer Lopez as a young Carmella is quite good, lookwise, but she is in real life much younger then Robert DeNiro: how would this look on screen. Same thing for Salma Hayek.

Also I think that, like the older movies, a lot of (not so famous) real Italian actors shall play a lot of parts, if there would ever be a Godfather Four. So all suggestions about Russell Crowe, my own Jean Reno, Kirsten Dunst, George Clooney, Jennifer Lopez, basically ever not-Italian actor mentioned (Scott Caan of course too), would have less a chance of getting in.

If there will be a GF4, it will probably be based largely upon the already existing scripts and ideas once made by Puzo and Coppola themselves, with the Vincent-era based around drug cartels and all.

Finally, to the “Ricardo” who wrote two acts for a possible GFIV script; you base your story untill 1933 around Vito. No bad idea, yet the common plan was to make a parralel between Santino and Vincent, which would be probably easier to be done movie-technical. So far, Sonny has a very small part in your script.

By the way, I do like to see the rest of it, Ricardo (?) I loved the fact it started (as it should), with a big family-festivity, as it also has a street-festivity with killings and several meetings with the heads of all families. Well done!

Jackie Chan??? Nice casting, Anton. :p Why don't we just have everyone in the cast played by Mike Myers in make-up? As for J-Lo... Carmella's butt wasn't THAT big. Besides, Jennifer "Big Booty" Lopez and Selma-Selma Hayek can't act.

If only the fountian of youth truely exsisted. Then we could have our favorites back. *sniffle*

I have to respectfully disagree...Jennifer was excellent in her portrayal of Selena in the movie of the same name.

And Salma was entertaining in Fools Rush In (hey, the character fit her to a "T"....) and very believeable in From Dusk to Dawn.

Maybe they are just not getting the good parts...!

[/QB][/QUOTE]I have to respectfully disagree...Jennifer was excellent in her portrayal of Selena in the movie of the same name.

And Salma was entertaining and very believeable in From Dusk to Dawn.

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I agree with you on that LDV!!

according to Imdb.com, a Canadian actor called Bruce Ramsay played the part of Young Joseph Bonanno, aged 17-27, in the 1999 TV-movie "Bonanno: A Godfather's Story" He was born in 1968, so this means that he was 31 years old when playing a teenager.

Now I have to admit I have never seen that movie, so I don't know if he pulled it of. But if he did it leaves some options open to actors for playing the parts of young Sonny and young Hagen in the never-to-happen-Godfather 4.

Personally, FFC should have recruited young, relatively unknown (Italian) actors with satisfying, realistic ages to play the Corleone youngsters, and a GF4 shouldn't tell to much of the known characters in their younger years, but should introduce some new big shot bad guys, for whom age and looks don't matter. I'm thinking FFC could invite his family again, with Nicolas Kim Coppola leading the pact (a guy we know better as awardwinning Nicolas Cage).