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Patriarca family 2024 chart? #1088671
04/25/24 08:14 AM
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Anyone have one? Or infos on the top players?

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1088911
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Carmen is still boss but not in great health
Has his brother as street boss running everything for him. After that’s it’s very much up for debate depending on who your talking to you will get a lot of different opinions

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1088924
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It's been a while since we've gotten any sort of update on the current structure of the Patriarca Family.

Boss: Carmen DiNunzio
Underboss: Eddie Lato
Captain: Matthew Guglielmetti

Anything outside of this would be guesswork I think. I don't think any other captains have been identified.

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1088928
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I thought I had read something a while back (perhaps Scott) that the leadership was somewhat decentralized due to the Cheeseman's ongoing health issues. I would assume Spucky Spagnolo would be a captain (assuming he's healthy), perhaps Carrozza? I'm just spitballing.

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: mike68] #1088932
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Originally Posted by mike68
I thought I had read something a while back (perhaps Scott) that the leadership was somewhat decentralized due to the Cheeseman's ongoing health issues. I would assume Spucky Spagnolo would be a captain (assuming he's healthy), perhaps Carrozza? I'm just spitballing.


I read on article on a wiseguy that took the place after beaver Ascenzia death but I can't find it.

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Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: mike68] #1088936
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Originally Posted by mike68
I thought I had read something a while back (perhaps Scott) that the leadership was somewhat decentralized due to the Cheeseman's ongoing health issues. I would assume Spucky Spagnolo would be a captain (assuming he's healthy), perhaps Carrozza? I'm just spitballing.

Originally Posted by mike68
I thought I had read something a while back (perhaps Scott) that the leadership was somewhat decentralized due to the Cheeseman's ongoing health issues. I would assume Spucky Spagnolo would be a captain (assuming he's healthy), perhaps Carrozza? I'm just spitballing.



Bobby c is almost 85 and not healthy either. I doubt he is active at this point
There has to be captains that have not Been identified yet as all the usual suspects we talk about are basically in there 80’s now

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1089060
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Who TF even knows. Now SB is pushing Eddie Parrette every chance he gets

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Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1089182
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Updated visual chart for the New England family:

[Linked Image]

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1089189
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You don't have to like it, but Carmen Dinunzio embodies peak male performance.

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: joepuzzles234] #1089191
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Originally Posted by joepuzzles234
Updated visual chart for the New England family:

[Linked Image]


Good chart Joe. My compliments on a job well done. Its good info and an interesting layout.

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1089193
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That’s a awesome chart Joe
Nice work . the updated pics are great much better than these guys mugshots from 30 years ago lol

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: joepuzzles234] #1089194
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Originally Posted by joepuzzles234
Updated visual chart for the New England family:

[Linked Image]


Oh damn is that a recent pic of Matthew Guglielmetti?
Of course, none of us are getting any younger, but it feels kinda strange seeing this pic of him since the last known picture of him is from at least 30 years ago when he was still a fairly young man and known as "Good Looking Matty".

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1089197
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wtaf lol that pic isn't even of Matty G. Where tf did you get that pic joepuzzles lmfaoooo


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Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1089198
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Great job on the photos in particular. Some very rare ones. A whole lot of old timers on this chart though. That can't bode well.

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: joepuzzles234] #1089199
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Originally Posted by joepuzzles234
Updated visual chart for the New England family:

[Linked Image]



Here I'll help you out Joepuzzles. Pic of Matty G from around 2019

https://ibb.co/9GP8xfC

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Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: NYMafia] #1089284
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Originally Posted by The_Marble_Guy
wtaf lol that pic isn't even of Matty G. Where tf did you get that pic joepuzzles lmfaoooo

Originally Posted by The_Marble_Guy
Here I'll help you out Joepuzzles. Pic of Matty G from around 2019

https://ibb.co/9GP8xfC


Thanks for clarifying that, the chart photo for Guglielmetti was posted on Reddit and Pinterest and it didn't appear that anyone really disputed that it was him, so I used it instead of the old mugshots/WPRI stuff

Originally Posted by mike68
Great job on the photos in particular. Some very rare ones. A whole lot of old timers on this chart though. That can't bode well.

Originally Posted by thebarber
That’s a awesome chart Joe
Nice work . the updated pics are great much better than these guys mugshots from 30 years ago lol

Originally Posted by NYMafia
Good chart Joe. My compliments on a job well done. Its good info and an interesting layout.

Thanks all

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1089302
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There are photos of Scarpelli and Marino on Facebook if you want to add them.

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1089303
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Thanks for the Chart Joe Puzzles. It's great.

Can you tell me what program did you use to do the chart ? i'd like to do one but i 've never found the right program.

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1089381
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Recent photo of Guilmette with MG. Matty is looking old these days



[img]https://ibb.co/mX1Z9mm[/img]


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Originally Posted by The_Marble_Guy
Recent photo of Guilmette with MG. Matty is looking old these days



[img]https://ibb.co/mX1Z9mm[/img]


Great photo. They dress well which is nice to see.

Is Guilmette being considered for overall boss of the family one day?

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
Originally Posted by The_Marble_Guy
Recent photo of Guilmette with MG. Matty is looking old these days



[img]https://ibb.co/mX1Z9mm[/img]


Great photo. They dress well which is nice to see.

Is Guilmette being considered for overall boss of the family one day?



The Providence guys dress well.

I'd be shocked personally. I think the boss position will stay in Boston for a while


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Photos updated/corrected, thanks to marbleguy and mike68

[Linked Image]

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Great chart and thanks for sharing it.

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
Originally Posted by The_Marble_Guy
Recent photo of Guilmette with MG. Matty is looking old these days



[img]https://ibb.co/mX1Z9mm[/img]


Great photo. They dress well which is nice to see.

Is Guilmette being considered for overall boss of the family one day?


Dino Guilmette hasn't even been identified as a member. Matty Guglielmetti is only a Captain.

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The craziest thing is that Lou Manocchio is still running around like nothing skipped a beat. He's 97 and supposedly looks and acts like he's 30 years younger lol


But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way
Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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Is Baby Shacks still running around Federal Hill?

Re: Patriarca family 2024 chart? [Re: dixiemafia] #1089565
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Originally Posted by dixiemafia
Is Baby Shacks still running around Federal Hill?




He's between Prov and Florida


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can anyone post Scott article about baby shack looking to whack hos former Connecticut capo ?
Wud like to know when this all transpired and how serious he was about it
Thanks

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Originally Posted by thebarber

can anyone post Scott article about baby shack looking to whack hos former Connecticut capo ?
Wud like to know when this all transpired and how serious he was about it
Thanks


May 16, 2024 — According to exclusive GR sources, federal-court documents and FBI 302s, Patriarca crime family boss Luigi (Baby Shacks) Manocchio ordered his main Connecticut lieutenant murdered and contracted the hit out through the Gambino mob’s crew in Bridgeport. The slaying never took place because the captain of the hit team was arrested in an FBI sting and Manocchio, who ruled from Federal Hill in Providence, stepped down as Godfather of the New England mafia shortly thereafter and moved to Florida.

The target of the murder contract was Anthony (Beaver) Ascenzia. The contract was given to then-Gambino mob affiliate and crew leader Raul (Sonny) Suner. The failed homicide conspiracy was referenced in Suner’s 2009 federal racketeering indictment as attempting to kill a Patriarca mob bookie, but the target wasn’t named specifically. “Sonny” Suner and the Gambinos promised Manocchio a larger percentage of their gambling and loan sharking rackets than he was seeing from Ascenzia and Suner accepted responsibility for planning the hit, recruiting at least two members of Ascenzia’s crew into the conspiracy.

“Beaver” Ascenzia died in Florida in July 2020 at the age of 61 from a sudden heart attack. Suner overdosed on fentanyl in 2021, five years removed leaving federal prison after doing eight years of a decade sentence for racketeering, weapons offenses, bookmaking and extortion. His arrest in an FBI sting purchasing a silencer in March 2008 took him off the streets and foiled the Ascenzia murder plot. Aging, however surprisingly spry “Baby Shacks” Manocchio, 96, is retired from his life of mafia affairs and hasn’t helmed the mob in New England since the late 2000s, despite his name surfacing in at least one cold-case murder probe in recent years.

Even though “Sonny” Suner didn’t have a button, he possessed final-say in a Gambino mob-backed crew out of Southern Connecticut and reported directly to Gambino organization Connecticut shot callers Tony (The Genius) Megale and Nicolo (Nick the Greaser) Melia. Megale, who rose to Gambino mob underboss, was away in prison on an extortion conviction when Suner began his infringement on Patriarca territory, in late 2006.

According to court records and FBI 302s, Suner targeted the New England mafia’s old Grasso crew and rackets that were supposed to be being tended to Ascenzia. The situation resulted in a pair of sit downs and subsequent admonishment for Ascenzia and other Connecticut Patriarca crime family members by their own superiors in Providence for allowing the Gambinos to grab ahold of their former customers so easily, per sources and FBI memos chronicling the events at issue.

Half Spanish and half Italian, Suner could never get a button, but struck fear in fellow mobsters and had the supreme faith of Gambino bosses locally and in New York alike. His arrest record dated back to 1984 (more than 10 state convictions) and as a teenager he was a gofer for then-mafia skipper Frank (The Attorney General) Piccolo, the Gambino’s No. 1 captain in Connecticut in the 1970s and early 1980s. Piccolo based his operations in Bridgeport and was killed in September 1981. Suner had a well-honed reputation for hair-triggered eruptions of violence, once baseball batting the legs of a bookie and debtor that threatened to call the police on him and then weeks later taking a knife to debtor’s throat over a $13,000 gambling tab.

On two separate occasions in the second half of 2007, members of the Patriarca pecking order from Providence led by skipper Bobby (The Cigar) DeLuca and Suner and a Gambino contingent led by Nick Melia and Dean (Bald Dino) DePreta met to iron out their differences. DeLuca allegedly “chewed out” Ascenzia and his inner circle at a post first-sit down meeting of just Patriarcas for the embarrassment they caused him and Baby Shacks in Rhode Island. Suner and another Gambino mobster met with Manocchio inside a non descript Federal Hill apartment to discuss the never carried out murder of Beaver Ascenzia, per two different 302s. “Bobby the Cigar” De Luca soon flipped and began wearing a wire for the FBI, avoiding a murder contract Manocchio okayed on him around the same time of the Ascenzia situation beginning to fester.

DePreta was just an associate back then, even though, like Suner, he oversaw a crew of Gambino operatives in the Constitution State. Per sources, DePreta looks after Gambino interests in Connecticut as a fully-inducted member of the organization, a status he earned after a federal prison stint.

DeLuca eventually implicated himself and Manocchio in the fall 1992 gangland homicide of rogue Irish mob enforcer Kevin Hanrahan. The Hanrahan case remains active today. Hanrahan, 39, had accepted murder contracts on Manocchio, who was the New England mob’s underboss back then and then-boss Francis (Cadillac Frank) Salemme. Manocchio relayed the green light on Hanrahan to DeLuca, who put together the two-man hit squad that gunned down Hanrahan leaving a Federal Hill steakhouse on September 18, 1992.

Although a somewhat polarizing mob figure in New England underworld history, there’s no debate that Baby Shacks stabilized the Patriarca in the wake of the blood and revenge-ridden Cadillac Frank era of the 1990s. Salemme was indicted in 1995 and Manocchio assumed the reins of the crime family the next year, steering the ship until his voluntarily resignation in 2009.

Manocchio’s one-time driver and bodyguard Napoleon Andrade was shot to death in the parking lot of a Pawtucket halfway house in 2019. Andrade had ties to a home invasion involving Nick Melia’s Stamford mansion years earlier. Melia passed away of natural causes three years ago this spring. He was 89.


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I don't think Andrade was Manochio's driver or bodyguard. This was a serious black guy who sold drugs and worked as a bouncer in a strip club that the family was shaking down, if it's called a shake down when you have your own guy working there as a manager making weekly envelopes with the full consent of the owner. I'm NOT saying he never drove Manocchio somewhere but I doubt it...he had Italians for that. Definitely wasn't known as "his driver." I think the guy helped collect some money sometimes. He definitely go put on the Melia home invasion by some RI guys. He put hands on Melia during it and probably got killed for it. DeLuca was inside that halfway house when that hit happened. This is probably the last/most recent hit in the New England mob world after Angelesca getting DeVito at the Squire Lounge in Revere circa 2001 or 2002.

Would love to know the sources describing this guy as the boss of New England's driver and bodyguard to Scott.

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