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Re: Montreal Haitian gangs [Re: Blackmobs] #1084973
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https://youtu.be/UJ3hSjyaYqI?si=K1ZiHBcaFzJ4Ejwj

The importance of street gangs in Quebec's criminal ecosystem | Isabelle Richer

The rise of the street gangs.

Sorry, this video is in french, but I guess some of ya’ll are from Montreal.

Before, there was three major organizations in the criminal world of Montreal.
You had the Italian mafia (Cotroni and after the Rizzuto’s), the Bikers (hells angels) and the Irish Mob (west end gang).
Today, we could say that the irish mob is not one of the major factor anymore. Sure you got some irish gangster that still hold weight, but they are not one of the top factors anymore.

Montreal, got many criminal groups, you have the lebanese, the turks, the algerians and morrocans, the greeks, the africans (like congoleses or cameroonian), the black-anglo (jamaicans, scottians or other west indies) and the haitians.

Before, you had the big three, italian mafia, hells angels and irish mob.

But today, in 2024, could we say that the big three of montreal are the Bikers (hells angels), the italian mafia and the street gangs ? And more specifically, the haitian street gangs that have became groups of organized crime ? People like Woolley, Celestin, Mompoint, Cadet and their groups.

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Murder in Terrebonne: the victim is linked to an influential Montreal boss

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Re: Montreal Haitian gangs [Re: Blackmobs] #1086105
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According to our information, Jean-Philippe Célestin, former right-hand man of gang leader Gregory Woolley, was seen wearing a Marauders jacket in a Montreal bar on Thursday evening by the SPVM's Eclipse squad, which specializes in surveillance of bars and the collection of information on organized crime, which would support information received at La Presse from the criminal community.

Some of their members allegedly carried out surveillance during the funeral of Brandon Jean Célestin, celebrated on March 5 in a church in Plateau Mont-Royal.

However, the police do not yet officially consider Jean-Philippe Célestin as a member of the Marauders.

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So it look like Celestin his still really close to the HA.

The Woolley murder is so confusing, and the alliances in Quebec right now are also confusing.

Is Celestin still close to the Rizzuto’s ?

What is happening between the Rizzuto’s and the Montreal’s HA ?

Which gang is going after the Celestin crew ? Is it the Otna crew ?

Anha Otna is also close to the HA montreal chapter

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I agree it is very confusing.

You brought up valid questions.
Another question comes to mind is, are they doing a clean up on account of Federick Silva spilling the beans ? Silva's investigation involves several murders which if convicted can result in very long sentences in jail. This purging would benefit all three groups Street gangs, HA and the Mafia clan. Some members would be loyal enough to serve a 6 year sentence, but would they change their minds if it would involve 25 years in jail if not more for multiple murders ?

Furthermore ,this confusion encourages rival groups to challenge existing leaderships.


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Also where do the bloods fit into this equation ?

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The residence of the parents of a gang leader targeted by gunfire

Shots were fired Saturday evening at a residence in Plateau-Mont-Royal where the parents of Jean-Philippe Célestin live, a Montreal gang leader whose several relatives suffered reprisals recently, including his younger brother who was murdered in mid-February.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/03/23/des-coups-de-feu-entendus-sur-le-plateau--mont-royal

The residence of the mother of gang leader Jean-Philippe Célestin was the target of several gunshots on the Plateau on Saturday evening, in Montreal: a monumental affront to the code of honor according to which one does not attack the family of a member of organized crime.

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Originally Posted by Ciment
Also where do the bloods fit into this equation ?


Rumors in Montreal about the bloods, is that they are the one going after the Hells Angels in Quebec City. They are the one that are giving drugs to the BFM guys.

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Also where do the bloods fit into this equation ?


Rumors in Montreal about the bloods, is that they are the one going after the Hells Angels in Quebec City. They are the one that are giving drugs to the BFM guys.


When I asked the question, I meant the Bloods in Montreal region vs Crips.

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The Bloods vs Crips is not a thing anymore in Montreal.
Sure you still have some conflicts between some blood gangs against some crips gangs, but you got as much conflicts between crips vs crips and bloods vs bloods.

So now its more about cliques vs cliques, and the color don’t matter

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Thanks for clarifying the Blood gangs.

Whoever is after the Celestin's seem to have inside information, like knowing about the engagement Party when Brandon was shot and knowing the parents residence.

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Originally Posted by Ciment
Thanks for clarifying the Blood gangs.

Whoever is after the Celestin's seem to have inside information, like knowing about the engagement Party when Brandon was shot and knowing the parents residence.


But you are also right, we most not forget the bloods in this conflict. They do have a grudge against Woolley and Celestin, since they were at war for decades.
Also, they lost key players against Woolley. Guys like Chenier and BM.

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“It’s free-for-all”: even the criminals’ relatives are no longer spared

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Suspect arrested in connection with homicide during Terrebonne strip club brawl
The victim was reportedly a man with ties to Jean-Philippe Célestin, a street gang leader with close ties to the Montreal Mafia.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...micide-during-terrebone-strip-club-brawl

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The SQ arrests the “warrior” for the murder at the Terrebonne strip bar

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Many people got killed in this conflict between the sf and ldr guys against many other hoods.

24 and fhb against 2die4, BB, Atm, HB, 99, Zone 3

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Not about a haitian gang, but western african crime groups.
We often talk about the Italians or lebanese when its about stolen vehicles and the port of montreal.
But there is a third party, as important as the two others. The west african crime groups from Montreal or Toronto. You got guys like Ahna Otna who are making alot of money with stolen cars.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvell...voiture-vols-revente-internationale-spal

An alleged exporter of stolen vehicles is arrested in Longueuil

According to our information, Mouhamed Takhilah Gaye, 54, had been in the sights of the police for several months because he had been identified as a contact on Canadian soil capable of illegally bringing stolen vehicles into the port of Montreal with a view to reselling them. on the international black market.

Not just anyone can enter the port of Montreal with stolen cars. We are talking here about links with overseas criminal groups, transport by boat , confirmed agent Ghyslain Vallières, spokesperson for theSPAL.

Still according to our sources, the vehicles were intended in particular for West Africa.

Mr. Gaye owned a warehouse. The place was used to "cool" stolen vehicles, that is, the vehicles were brought there after their theft for a certain period of time. Pieces of equipment that could be used to locate them were removed. Subsequently, he transported them to the port of Montreal , explained Agent Vallières.

The investigation ofSPALbegan last year thanks to criminal intelligence obtained by patrol officers on the ground. Subsequently, nearly forty police officers participated in the various stages of the investigation which led to the arrest of the suspect.

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Mouhamed Takhilah Gaye, from KHALIS MONEY TRANSFERT, Canada, received the 2008 Diaspora ICON, during the International Diaspora Business Symposium, on October 15, 2008, in Montreal, Canada. Mouhamed is the promoter of the S3I Group.

The S3I Group, which he founded in 2007, is a one-stop shop for the ethnic community in Canada. The S3I Group, has a turnover of more than $1,250,000 CAN, has several activities, Money transfer (Khalis Money Transfer), Africa Cargo, Kaolack Market, Organization of special events, real estate. With agencies across Canada.

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The group, referred to as “African organized crime” by the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), also allegedly defrauded the Canadian Emergency Response Benefit to the tune of at least $250,000.

Members of African organized crime are involved in a range of internet phishing frauds in Quebec,” indicates the CBSA intelligence report.
Members' monthly income is between $25,000 and $30,000 per subject.


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Murder of Brendon Célestin
Police conduct series of searches

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Murder of Brandon Jean Célestin: the noose tightens on the killer

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Trois individus passeront la fin de semaine en prison
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Le caïd Jean-Philippe Célestin bénéficierait de la protection des Hells Angels
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2064132/jean-philippe-celestin-marauders-hells-angels

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with it now being confirmed that celestin was wearing the marauders colors we can now place him and his associates firmly in the camp of martin robert and the mtl HA. the marauders mc are a newer support club and are said to provide security at HA runs and funerals apparently. members of the marauders mc have also been linked direct to robert, eric bleau comes to mind. it could be said that this is a loss for the rizzuto-sollecito clan, but i am not convinced celestin was ever totally allied with them. celestin was loyal to woolley and worked with him and HA members and associates during the magot/mastiff period (2012-2015).

all said with even these small morsels of intell leaking out it does clear the picture a bit as to who may have murdered celestins brother. we can rule out the HA en masse. it certainly was not anha otna as he is allied with patrick lock a full patch member. possible the rizzuto-sollecito clan but as i mentioned above what proof do we have that such a close alliance or working relationship amongst r-s and celestin ever existed? i have never read of a single mafia member from any clan, let alone the r-s that was tasked with being the link or drug supplier for celestin. this poses another question. how involved are the rizzuto-sollecito clan in street level drug sales anyway or drug trafficking in general. there have been many oft repeated claims of involvement in high level drug trafficking but these were legally thrown out against the 2 leaders of said clan in 2019.the other claims of drug trafficking are historical not current. there is no doubt the rizzutos were once high level importers of all kinds of narcotics, but this was decades ago, likely there involvement today is financing some imports of only cocaine. the main business for the r-s clan is 'the book' and all the rackets it revolves around. all to say i dont think the motive for the recent attacks against the celestin gang involves a dispute over drug territory related to the r-s clan.

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That a big news, so Celestin is now a Marauders.
Like VitoCahill said, now we know Celestin is in the same side of Martin Robert.
But we got many questions

Who killed Woolley ? If its the Hells, how the other members of the Syndicates feel about the kill and the fact that Celestin is a Marauders now.
And was it really the HAs who order the hit against Woolley ?

Who was going after Celestin? Probably not Otna, since he’s close to the Montreal and Ottawa chapters.

Where do guys like Zephir, Bartheleus and Cadet stand in all of this?

Celestin had is own territory, and he had to give a part to the HAs, to become an Marauders.
Like people in montreal always said, montreal is not all HAs or Mafia like the news always said, we lnow that there are many groups who have there own territory, and they don’t pay taxes to the mafia or the HAs.

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Danny Cadet and Jean Barthelus have come up as Hells Angels associates in articles from the last few months.

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