What gang banger had Italians as pallbearers?

Why hopefully? Maybe the only racist is you Rush.

So John Gotti is a great role model and a winner in life ?

So you are saying that Gotti was a minority when it came to his feelings? BTW I highly doubt that as many guys from that generation openly hated guys who were black and low life scumbags. This is why their daughters would never ever date a black guy and their sons wouldn't ever think of dating a black girl. It was forbidden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If any of his crew would have associated with the people he hated he would have had them whacked as well. Even in the movie Goodfellas they talk about how much they hate them and that is based on how it was in real life. Not really sure why the new generation is o open to dealing with these people. You are not talking about good people here. Why the fuck would you assocaite with people who are going to more than likely rat on you to save their own ass? Black criminals will fuck you over in a second, that is a fact.

Its very confusing as to why the younger generation in todays LCN dresses like they are a ghetto black hoodlum rapper. Fuckin Joke to be honest with you that they idolize these pieces of shit. There grandfathers would have put a bullet in their fuckin head for being so fucking stupid. Do not try to justify their actions, as they are bullshit. You know it, I know it.

I admire John Gotti, but I sure as fuck don't admire Peter Pan that is for sure. If he's the future of LCN then its fucked that is for sure.

The most dysfunctional "organized crime" groups are black groups. In fact, they are so disorganized that it's even a challenge to file their activities under the organized crime umbrella. They have never been able to organize or establish a sophisticated unit that lasted for a significant amount of time. All you need to do is look at the Bloods and the Crips. I am very familiar with their history in Los Angeles and their lack of progress as criminals. There are no gangbangers who are millionaires. That is not to say that you don't have powerful individuals who are affiliated with them or a particular set. You have your Suge Knights and your Harry-Os, but even they try to limit their interactions with that world. You are not a racist for pointing out facts! There's plenty of smart black people around, but you won't find them throwing up gang signs.

John Gotti wouldnt have approved of this. He honestly would have thrown up.

Why are the Rizzutos so different?

Gotti had junkies doing hits for him !!!

Given how much experience blacks have with crime, you would think they'd do a little better. That's not the case though

The most dysfunctional "organized crime" groups are black groups. In fact, they are so disorganized that it's even a challenge to file their activities under the organized crime umbrella. They have never been able to organize or establish a sophisticated unit that lasted for a significant amount of time. All you need to do is look at the Bloods and the Crips. I am very familiar with their history in Los Angeles and their lack of progress as criminals. There are no gangbangers who are millionaires. That is not to say that you don't have powerful individuals who are affiliated with them or a particular set. You have your Suge Knights and your Harry-Os, but even they try to limit their interactions with that world. You are not a racist for pointing out facts! There's plenty of smart black people around, but you won't find them throwing up gang signs.

Clearly you & Rush have a bias and needs to be cleared up. I have been posting Black Underworld topics since 2012. Literally going on 12+ years now. So your either go through my posts about and actually learn something new ( recent ex: $550 million fraud scheme by a Crip in CA prison) or stop these posts about Mobsters networking with Black crime groups since i doubt yall can tell a Jamaican, Haitian, Afro American apart. This been going for decades, all these scumbags care about is money.

What about Big Meech and the black mafia family? They are avtive from the 1980s andcmade milions with the coke traffick.

Meech and Terry were almost an exception to the rule. I'm actually being generous when I say that because when you look at the way Meech was moving, you can't help but shake your head. Those guys would go into strip clubs and spend a million dollars. You don't think Meech would've lasted longer if he had toned down his excessive ways? Terry was smarter, but even he couldn't talk sense into his brother

I never realized how small of a city Montreal is. Not even as big as Kansas City when it comes to population.

If the Rizzutos went to war with any of the Crime families in New York they would get their ass handed to them. They can keep their black goons and enjoy their pointless relationship that means nothing to America.

A Crip in prison LOL

You are funny. As far as mob guys collaborating with black gangs or even black individuals, it is quite rare overall. You might find some form of it in Montreal or even in New York, but the overwhelming majority of Italian-American wiseguys absolutely despise black criminals. All you need to do is listen to some wiretaps that have been made public

I remember when Sammy Gravano first came out of prison in 1995, he talked about this. Do you know how Staten Island reacted to his own daughter having a child with her black boyfriend? Yes, Karen Gravano has also gone on record about how blacks are viewed in those circles. Later of course Sammy changed his tune because he wanted to get into the good graces of some black podcasters. When John Gotti said to his grandson and I quote "Being a ni--er is an embarrassment" he was echoing every mob guy out there. They absolutely despise blacks. This is not my bias. John Gotti said this.

All you need to do is look at the facts. There really is no black organized crime. There is just black disorganized crime. I know you'll probably try to bring up the Shower Posse or some drug organizations that barely lasted longer than five minutes, but there's nothing they've put together that comes even close to the Italians, the Mexicans, the Colombians, the Russians, you just name it.

The Crip in prison is again a recent example. Literally since the 80s to present there have been numerous citywide to regional drug distrubution networks amongst LA & Chicago street gangs from retail to midlevel/wholesale level.*

Apparently the fact that the Montreal,Toronto, NYC, NJ, PA, & Chicago mobsters and associates clearly collobarates with Black racketeers despite bigotry existing in both underworlds. All this talk about personal dislike certainly doesn't carry over to business.

If there was no Black OC then the FBI/DEA/ATF must be having a hard time figuring out how that La Cosa Nostra, Drug Cartels, Asian OC, Middle Eastern OC, Russian OC, Albanian OC, Armenian OC are doing business with various Afro crime groups. Your statement means your completely ignorant to real life underworld cases or your new to real life underworld networks. If the latter, read my posts on the Black underworld. I'l start you off with HIDTA ( High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas) annual reports in which it list the number of DTOs investigated and dismantled and it's characteristics. From Wholesale to retail level crime groups involved in a myriad of activities. Black DTOs are in the hundreds nationwide at the WHOLESALE level with various influence depending where you looking. This is to say that the Flenorysl Brothers ( aka BMF) isn't a rare case and that there are many operating at their level. Heck just look at Detroit metro: "Black DTOs are the majority of wholesale distrubutors"
Certainly more than a 5 mins operations going on. I strongly recommend you remove your bias before making statements on other groups your not familiar with.

When John Gotti said to his grandson and I quote "Being a ni--er is an embarrassment" he was echoing every mob guy out there.

I never realized how small of a city Montreal is. Not even as big as Kansas City when it comes to population.

If the Rizzutos went to war with any of the Crime families in New York they would get their ass handed to them. They can keep their black goons and enjoy their pointless relationship that means nothing to America.

Gregory Wooley was more a man of honor then most mobsters nowadays

LOL . Montreal gave New York the middle finger in the early 2000's and what did NY do... Nothing. Rizzuto organization lets not forgot was taken down by a NY Rat. How many NY families were on a commission to build a bridge back in the homeland with mafiosi from those areas....0 . NY are little boys compared to MTL.., stop living in the past , NY Mafia is dead , there are no more Luciani and other famous mobsters . Rizzutto's were importing tons of coke . NY families in the last 40 years all full of rats. So dont compare NY vs MTL , its an insult!

[quote=Gambler007]Furthermore the Ndrangheta families in Canada have become more powerful than the NY mafia's.

i'm not agree with that, i dont know how many members has the ndrangheta in canada, but sure far less than NY families

Montreal is like NY in the 1970s! No Rico,short sentences for drug traffick or murder and active links with the Sicily or the Calabria.If the Canada would approve a law like the RICO the numbers of rats will grow.

If that were true then why are there far less snitches from the Ndrangheta vs the Mafia in Italy. Their laws are just as strict.

Look I don't give a fuck what anyone says. No way the Rizzutos are able to take on NYC when they have way more soldiers and associates.

If NYC was serious and wanted to wage war, the Rizzutos would stand no chance. I understand they have ties to Italy and we all know on here that Italy is very powerful.

What are they gonna do? Fly in people from Italy to take on NYC if a hypothetical situation came up where they went to war? Give me a fuckin break.

Look I don't give a fuck what anyone says. No way the Rizzutos are able to take on NYC when they have way more soldiers and associates.

If NYC was serious and wanted to wage war, the Rizzutos would stand no chance. I understand they have ties to Italy and we all know on here that Italy is very powerful.

What are they gonna do? Fly in people from Italy to take on NYC if a hypothetical situation came up where they went to war? Give me a fuckin break.

Hypothetically maybe, but this isn't the Sopranos. In reality, the mafia doesn't kill people anymore in the US. Too risky with the heavier penalties I've said this before. With the Meldish hit, they got the shooter, the driver, the guy who passed the message, and guy who gave the order. In Canada, they get the street gang member who carried out the hit and NOBODY else.

The same Gotti also had to kiss the ass of a few rednecks, hillbillies and trailer trash in the Aryan Brotherhood to avoid getting shanked in prison. So I don't think even he - a notoriously powerful boss of arguably the second most powerful criminal organization in the country - at one time was in the position to look down on anyone.

If you make a shitload of money from any racket, it's safe to say you have been committing crime in at least some kind of organized manner. And there are plenty of black gang members who run drug operations that generate a shitload of money.

Don't forget that in LCN families - still probably regarded as the most organized crime can get - there are quite a few members that are barely capable of running a decent racket. The Genovese family has two soldiers whose best known hustle is selling illegal firework to high school kids and they've been known for doing so since the 80's. I'm willing to bet there are old boys up in the Appalachians that are making more money selling oxy and meth than those two make from selling some stolen firework.
In Philly a made man got busted in a drug case involving a childlike size of narcotics with a white boy Eminem wannabe as his supplier.

I know for a fact that in the Netherlands there are black Surinamese and Curaçaoan crews involved in bringing in tons of cocaine. These kind of operations can most definitely be regarded as organized crime.

Claiming that there's no such thing as black organized crime groups and that basically 99% of black guys involved in crime are petty bums is biased bs. And if any of you choose to die in that hill, you can suit yourself, it's still a free world in the West. But I'm still gonna think that's nothing but biased bs.

Very very low IQ individuals who are pretty much mentally retarded.

Many of them are lol

Even most of the shotcallers in Compton and SC aren't what you would call smart people. They might have some level of street smarts, but it's not enough to impress anyone who has studied the careers of people like Accardo or Lansky

I never said they were petty bums, but you won't see any gangbangers rise to become boardroom gangsters. They don't have them. I think there's a lot of bright black people around, but they aren't joining the Crips or the Bloods. The smartest man I know happens to be black. He's an attorney, a man who finds the gang culture absolutely ridiculous, and I do believe that the culture has hurt them more than anything.

Most Blacks end up in Prison or dead it's just the way it is lol, but there are also smart ones who avoid that shit.

You were doing so good until you said the smartest person you know is black

I never said they were petty bums, but you won't see any gangbangers rise to become boardroom gangsters. They don't have them. I think there's a lot of bright black people around, but they aren't joining the Crips or the Bloods. The smartest man I know happens to be black. He's an attorney, a man who finds the gang culture absolutely ridiculous, and I do believe that the culture has hurt them more than anything.

LOL! So true Ralphie. I can't stand them in general they are just a bunch of scumbags. Their entire culture is shit.

Older blacks even vomit when it comes to these people. They are emberassed at how pathetic they are.

I used the word culture for a reason. To identify who I was describing.

Has nothing to do with color at all. Remember one of my best friends in college was a black man.

Meech and Terry were almost an exception to the rule. I'm actually being generous when I say that because when you look at the way Meech was moving, you can't help but shake your head. Those guys would go into strip clubs and spend a million dollars. You don't think Meech would've lasted longer if he had toned down his excessive ways? Terry was smarter, but even he couldn't talk sense into his brother

How was terry smarter when feds had nothing on meech. Not illegal to spend money they went down due to terrys recklessness on the phone speaking freely as if he wasn’t a drug kingpin