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https://www.startribune.com/alarmin...e-between-st-paul-karen-gangs/600350357/

'Alarming rate' of fentanyl, meth fuels dispute between St. Paul Karen gangs

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Why is Haiti so chaotic? Leaders used street gangs to gain power. Then the gangs got stronger

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Haiti's PM Ariel Henry resigns amid gangs threat violent attacks.

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Former detective says B.C. gangs recruiting 'little soldiers' with 'no expertise' for smuggling, shootings

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Organized crime ain’t what it used to be. Md. lawmakers say it’s time to update the law

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Originally Posted by Ciment
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Why is Haiti so chaotic? Leaders used street gangs to gain power. Then the gangs got stronger


Because Haiti never had honest politicians! Plus after the earthquake nobody rebuilted the nation so the haitian people must live with the humanitarian aids or with the little bit of tourism if they are lucky or on crime,if they aren't so lucky.

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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
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https://lufkindailynews.com/anpa/us...242e9d0-1428-593e-8f2d-3325181034f4.html

Why is Haiti so chaotic? Leaders used street gangs to gain power. Then the gangs got stronger


Because Haiti never had honest politicians! Plus after the earthquake nobody rebuilted the nation so the haitian people must live with the humanitarian aids or with the little bit of tourism if they are lucky or on crime,if they aren't so lucky.



The Prime Minister resigned he sought support in Africa, after centuries of traumatic foreign interference from the French, Americans and the nearby region. Haiti became the first free black state in the colonial world in 1804, when an army of freed ex-slaves drove out the powerful French army after thirteen years of struggle. Precisely because of that genesis, it was never allowed to succeed: to prevent Haiti from becoming an example for other colonies, Paris imposed sky-high reparations, which weighed on the country well into the twentieth century.


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U.S. officials tell travelers not to go to Haiti as street gangs battle with police

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CITY OF HELL Haiti’s capital ‘FALLS to Barbecue’s armed gangs’ as US marines deployed & bodies litter ‘world’s most dangerous city’

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Gangbangers openly sell fake IDs, green cards to migrants on NYC streets as officials warn of danger

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Originally Posted by Hollander
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Why is Haiti so chaotic? Leaders used street gangs to gain power. Then the gangs got stronger


Because Haiti never had honest politicians! Plus after the earthquake nobody rebuilted the nation so the haitian people must live with the humanitarian aids or with the little bit of tourism if they are lucky or on crime,if they aren't so lucky.



The Prime Minister resigned he sought support in Africa, after centuries of traumatic foreign interference from the French, Americans and the nearby region. Haiti became the first free black state in the colonial world in 1804, when an army of freed ex-slaves drove out the powerful French army after thirteen years of struggle. Precisely because of that genesis, it was never allowed to succeed: to prevent Haiti from becoming an example for other colonies, Paris imposed sky-high reparations, which weighed on the country well into the twentieth century.


Haitians repaid the reparations but invaded the today Dominican Republic and lost the war,the other was bad politicians guilty and Haiti is the poorest of the former french colonies.

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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
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https://lufkindailynews.com/anpa/us...242e9d0-1428-593e-8f2d-3325181034f4.html

Why is Haiti so chaotic? Leaders used street gangs to gain power. Then the gangs got stronger


Because Haiti never had honest politicians! Plus after the earthquake nobody rebuilted the nation so the haitian people must live with the humanitarian aids or with the little bit of tourism if they are lucky or on crime,if they aren't so lucky.


Well its more complicated than that. But to understand the situation of Haiti, you must be up to date with the news of haiti.
And knowing the history of haiti.
Most people will have an opinion on haiti, just by reading articles from Fance news and CNN/Fox news.

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The problems of Haiti are internals and externals.

But the major problem since the earthquake is really corruption and violence.

Nothing can be change in Haiti, if haitians don’t find a way to eradicate the level of corruption in the country.
And only Haitians can do that. Changing most come from inside first.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
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https://lufkindailynews.com/anpa/us...242e9d0-1428-593e-8f2d-3325181034f4.html

Why is Haiti so chaotic? Leaders used street gangs to gain power. Then the gangs got stronger


Because Haiti never had honest politicians! Plus after the earthquake nobody rebuilted the nation so the haitian people must live with the humanitarian aids or with the little bit of tourism if they are lucky or on crime,if they aren't so lucky.



The Prime Minister resigned he sought support in Africa, after centuries of traumatic foreign interference from the French, Americans and the nearby region. Haiti became the first free black state in the colonial world in 1804, when an army of freed ex-slaves drove out the powerful French army after thirteen years of struggle. Precisely because of that genesis, it was never allowed to succeed: to prevent Haiti from becoming an example for other colonies, Paris imposed sky-high reparations, which weighed on the country well into the twentieth century.


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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by Hollander
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https://lufkindailynews.com/anpa/us...242e9d0-1428-593e-8f2d-3325181034f4.html

Why is Haiti so chaotic? Leaders used street gangs to gain power. Then the gangs got stronger


Because Haiti never had honest politicians! Plus after the earthquake nobody rebuilted the nation so the haitian people must live with the humanitarian aids or with the little bit of tourism if they are lucky or on crime,if they aren't so lucky.



The Prime Minister resigned he sought support in Africa, after centuries of traumatic foreign interference from the French, Americans and the nearby region. Haiti became the first free black state in the colonial world in 1804, when an army of freed ex-slaves drove out the powerful French army after thirteen years of struggle. Precisely because of that genesis, it was never allowed to succeed: to prevent Haiti from becoming an example for other colonies, Paris imposed sky-high reparations, which weighed on the country well into the twentieth century.


Haitians repaid the reparations but invaded the today Dominican Republic and lost the war,the other was bad politicians guilty and Haiti is the poorest of the former french colonies.


Haiti occupied the DR for 22 years, from 1822 to 1844.
Haiti paid the debt to france in 1947.
So the ending of paying the debt to France as nothing to do with the occupation of the DR.

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Now for the violence in Haiti.

Gangs are really controling the country. And this is the fault of the haitian elites that are criminals. And i mean really criminals.
The president before Jovnel Moise, Michel Martelly was known to be a drug trafficker of cocaine to the US. When he was elected (by fraud), many of the population were against it snd march to protest.
But since he was also a famous singer, many were fans of him.

But his presidency was another level of corruption.
Ya’ll should check the scandal of The money of Petrocaribe.
The party of Martelly, PHKT, stole billions of dollars from the governement of Venezuela, who gave this money to help the people.
So the population started to protest, and the PHTK party started to pay gang members to shoot up the protesters.

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https://torontosun.com/news/world/haitis-top-gang-leader-barbecue-accused-of-incinerating-victims

Haiti's top gang leader 'Barbecue' accused of incinerating victims

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https://insightcrime.org/news/prime-minister-resigns-haiti-unchartered-territory/

Prime Minister’s Resignation Tips Haiti Into Uncharted Territory

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It's estimated about 200 gangs operate in Haiti. This is what we know about the leader known as 'Barbecue'

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Yo got many gangs in Haiti.

Barbecue is the most well known leader, since he is more talking about revolution etc.
Also he formed the G9 alliance. An alliance of many gangs that are now under is control.

You also got the G-Pep alliance, who is the rival of G9, and his also an alliance of many gangs.
400 Mawozo is one of the biggest gang in Haiti, and is in the G-pep.

You also have smaller gangs that are not in those alliances but are well known and are very violent, like the gang 5 segond with his well know leader Izo.
Many of the smaller gangs have take the identity of bloods and crips, like the 5 segond gang who are crips.
The 5 segond gang are very violent, they cut the heads of two police officiers two years ago, it was viral on the social media.
The smaller gangs also have many rap videos on youtube.

Many of those gangs, members are ex-police officiers. And the smaller gangs that take the identities of bloods and crips, many of the members are criminals thats’ were exported from the United States or Canada, so they brought the bloods and crips culture in haiti.

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sesso con animale è una parte di voodoo? in Haiti e probablemente a Montreal? comè puo qualcuno permette questo succede? e è fiera lol

sex with animals mean religion to Haitians? also Montreal, like the deliverance film

https://www.thetorah.com/article/bestiality-in-biblical-and-hittite-law


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This thread might as well be split into seperate threads based on indivual gangs. Already have a MS-13 for example.

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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Yo got many gangs in Haiti.

Barbecue is the most well known leader, since he is more talking about revolution etc.
Also he formed the G9 alliance. An alliance of many gangs that are now under is control.

You also got the G-Pep alliance, who is the rival of G9, and his also an alliance of many gangs.
400 Mawozo is one of the biggest gang in Haiti, and is in the G-pep.

You also have smaller gangs that are not in those alliances but are well known and are very violent, like the gang 5 segond with his well know leader Izo.
Many of the smaller gangs have take the identity of bloods and crips, like the 5 segond gang who are crips.
The 5 segond gang are very violent, they cut the heads of two police officiers two years ago, it was viral on the social media.
The smaller gangs also have many rap videos on youtube.

Many of those gangs, members are ex-police officiers. And the smaller gangs that take the identities of bloods and crips, many of the members are criminals thats’ were exported from the United States or Canada, so they brought the bloods and crips culture in haiti.


Once again im giving you props for the info.i was wondering would the Crip/Blood theme trickle back to the islands due to the american membership. What's meaning behind some of the gangs names in Haiti?


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Thanks @BlackFamily


Gangs in haiti have creole names.
Many gangs got their sector name in their neighborhoods.
You got Delma 16 gang, Delma 9 gang etc.

G9 is an alliance that started with 9 gangs. So they choose G9 from the inspiration of the G7(before G8) international group of developed countries. So Group 9

G-Pep, « pep » mean people in creole, so it is the People Group.

5 segond mean 5 second.

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Yes, the bloods and crips are now in haiti.
Here are some videos from those bloods and crips gangs.

Izo from 5 segond.
Izo is a well known gang leader.

https://youtu.be/UnhoxlSpvzk?si=YP4EFsWbdj1tdaIT

Jiji 4.45

https://youtu.be/m7RPmFYNvGU?si=-zUCG8m6ESbBeD4H

B13

https://youtu.be/evFrP3tiKcs?si=Dx7a-R2StAGqd9zf

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Jimmy "Barbecue" Cherizier could only act if he has support of the elite, a guy like him can't control an entire country.


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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Yes, the bloods and crips are now in haiti.
Here are some videos from those bloods and crips gangs.

Izo from 5 segond.
Izo is a well known gang leader.

https://youtu.be/UnhoxlSpvzk?si=YP4EFsWbdj1tdaIT

Jiji 4.45

https://youtu.be/m7RPmFYNvGU?si=-zUCG8m6ESbBeD4H

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https://youtu.be/evFrP3tiKcs?si=Dx7a-R2StAGqd9zf


Are those dance steps Haitian theme or just this generation theme


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Jimmy "Barbecue" Cherizier could only act if he has support of the elite, a guy like him can't control an entire country.


Yeah, Barbecue got the support of some of the elite. Before he was known to be associate with the PHTK party, but now its more complicated, since the death of Moise.
But the haitian oligarchs are really involved in this crisis. Families like the Bigio family, the Brandt family, the Boulos family and the others. Really rich families that are stronger than the politicians.

A guy that we most keep an eye on, is Guy Philippe. He just finished is sentence of 9 years in the US for drug trafficking and money laundering.
He’s a ex officier and para-military. He was the leader of the revolt against the president Jean-Bertrand Aristide. And before going to jail, he really had an army of guys ready to shoot against the americains army.
Now he came back, and he a major player again.

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@BlackFamily
Those are generation theme dance from New York I think

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Do ya’ll think Toronto got major players from the street gangs like Montreal ?
Guys like Woolley, Celestin, 2pac, BM, Ducarme and others ?

I guess yes, but do ya’ll got names ?

In the 2000s you had guys from the Shower Posse

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