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Re: Lucky Luciano vs. Vito Genovese [Re: NYMafia] #1082241
02/04/24 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Mussolini's Fascist Party was interesting although Benito hated the influence the Mafia had and drove many to the US in the 20s, some former blackshirts became very powerful men in post-war Italy.


Thats very correct, Hollander. In fact, Mussolini became a major catalyst for the Mafia's mass exodus from Sicily and immigration to America.


Yes Mussolini was like a Ceasar LOL..


He should have never sided with Hitler. That was his downfall. He would have stayed popular with the Italian people had he not. He ruined himself.


I agree General Franco was smarter, he ruled Spain as dictator from 1939 until his death in 1975.

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Re: Lucky Luciano vs. Vito Genovese [Re: NYMafia] #1082258
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Mussolini visited Sicily in 1924, two years after he took power. One of the local Mafia Dons, Francesco Cuccia, told Mussolini that he should dismiss his police escort because he was under Cuccia's protection. Mussolini angrily rejected Cuccia's suggestion. The following day, no one showed up to hear a speech he was planning to give. This prompted Mussolini to declare war on the Sicilian Mafia. One of his brutal henchmen, Cesare Mori, was put in charge. Mori arrested more than 11k Sicilians (few of them actual Mafiosi), killing, imprisoning, torturing and confiscating property, almost randomly. He drove the Mafia underground.
After the Allied invasion of Sicily in 1943, Genovese, who'd been tight with Mussolini, switched sides, moved to the island and made himself useful to US forces as a translator, guide and general go-between. He convinced them that the Mafiosi in hiding or in prison were "Italian patriots," and many were restored to their former positions and property. Don Vitone was handsomely rewarded.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Lucky Luciano vs. Vito Genovese [Re: Turnbull] #1082319
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Originally Posted by Turnbull
Mussolini visited Sicily in 1924, two years after he took power. One of the local Mafia Dons, Francesco Cuccia, told Mussolini that he should dismiss his police escort because he was under Cuccia's protection. Mussolini angrily rejected Cuccia's suggestion. The following day, no one showed up to hear a speech he was planning to give. This prompted Mussolini to declare war on the Sicilian Mafia. One of his brutal henchmen, Cesare Mori, was put in charge. Mori arrested more than 11k Sicilians (few of them actual Mafiosi), killing, imprisoning, torturing and confiscating property, almost randomly. He drove the Mafia underground.
After the Allied invasion of Sicily in 1943, Genovese, who'd been tight with Mussolini, switched sides, moved to the island and made himself useful to US forces as a translator, guide and general go-between. He convinced them that the Mafiosi in hiding or in prison were "Italian patriots," and many were restored to their former positions and property. Don Vitone was handsomely rewarded.


Cesare Mori aka "the Iron Prefect".



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