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The Demise of “Traditional” LCN As We Knew It!...
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"The Demise of “Traditional” Organized Crime As We Knew It" - In my humble opinion, the Mafia is just a mirror and a reflection of our larger society in general. I feel that in recent decades there has been a major breakdown within our society. And reflective of that breakdown is the sorry state of affairs that Cosa Nostra and its membership currently finds itself experiencing. This article will explain my 20 top reasons why the former strength and influence of "traditional" organized crime, better known as Cosa Nostra, has been greatly diminished through the years....I think readers will be surprised by many of the factors involved. https://thenewyorkmafia.com/the-demise-of-traditional-organized-crime-as-we-knew-it/
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Re: The Demise of “Traditional” LCN As We Knew It!...
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the Mafia is just a mirror and a reflection of our larger society in general./ All true. And one of the biggest reasons for the demise of "Traditional OC," (the Mafia as we knew it), is assimilation: A century or more ago, Italian Americans were among the most despised and disrespected victims of bigotry in America. They reacted in part by banding together, as they did in Southern Italy and Sicily, against outsiders. Opportunities for advancement were practically nonexistent. Some ambitious and intelligent young men turned to OC as a means to make some money and gain respect. A few with leadership qualities, like Accardo, Costello, Luciano, Gambino, even Castellano, could have been successful in business, the professions or the arts if they'd had the opportunity. They didn't. Today's bright young Italian Americans are more Americanized and more confident: college, not the Mob, is their destination of choice. The Mob gets the Gottis, Gaspipes and Gravanos.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: The Demise of “Traditional” LCN As We Knew It!...
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For the most part I agree with Liggio. During the 30s on up Italians can be found in all walks of life excelling. The criminals just chose that route instead. I don’t know if they were dummies or not, but a majority were uneducated and simple minded. Tough as nails though I agree except for the timeline, the 1930' is way off, it is more like the 1950's on up. Even then, there was still discrimination in some fields. There is a famous lawsuit that was filed in the 1970's when an Italian-American professor at City College in New York was wondering why he was being denied tenure. He looked into it and found out they would not tenure Italians, in fact in thier history they had never done so. He won, I believe the name of the professor was Calandra. I was surprised when I found out about it, because they have always been very liberal.
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Re: The Demise of “Traditional” LCN As We Knew It!...
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the Mafia is just a mirror and a reflection of our larger society in general./ All true. And one of the biggest reasons for the demise of "Traditional OC," (the Mafia as we knew it), is assimilation: A century or more ago, Italian Americans were among the most despised and disrespected victims of bigotry in America. They reacted in part by banding together, as they did in Southern Italy and Sicily, against outsiders. Opportunities for advancement were practically nonexistent. Some ambitious and intelligent young men turned to OC as a means to make some money and gain respect. A few with leadership qualities, like Accardo, Costello, Luciano, Gambino, even Castellano, could have been successful in business, the professions or the arts if they'd had the opportunity. They didn't. Today's bright young Italian Americans are more Americanized and more confident: college, not the Mob, is their destination of choice. The Mob gets the Gottis, Gaspipes and Gravanos. That was very well put, Turnbull...I'm glad we agree. And the additional points you mention are also true and only add to bolster my (our) opinion on the subject...It is a much different world for them today. It took quite awhile, but today, the Italians, as a people, are fully assimilated into the American mainstream and find themselves solidly in the middle and upper classes of society.
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Re: The Demise of “Traditional” LCN As We Knew It!...
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the Mafia is just a mirror and a reflection of our larger society in general./ All true. And one of the biggest reasons for the demise of "Traditional OC," (the Mafia as we knew it), is assimilation: A century or more ago, Italian Americans were among the most despised and disrespected victims of bigotry in America. They reacted in part by banding together, as they did in Southern Italy and Sicily, against outsiders. Opportunities for advancement were practically nonexistent. Some ambitious and intelligent young men turned to OC as a means to make some money and gain respect. A few with leadership qualities, like Accardo, Costello, Luciano, Gambino, even Castellano, could have been successful in business, the professions or the arts if they'd had the opportunity. They didn't. Today's bright young Italian Americans are more Americanized and more confident: college, not the Mob, is their destination of choice. The Mob gets the Gottis, Gaspipes and Gravanos. That was very well put, Turnbull...I'm glad we agree. And the additional points you mention are also true and only add to bolster my (our) opinion on the subject...It is a much different world for them today. It took quite awhile, but today, the Italians, as a people, are fully assimilated into the American mainstream and find themselves solidly in the middle and upper classes of society. And to your point, typically, only the lower dregs of society - and a scraping of the bottom of the Italian barrel - so to speak, go into organized crime today as a career choice. Today's young Italian men are generally too well educated, have too much going for them, and have too many great opportunities available to them to have to resort to gangs, mobs and criminality.
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Re: The Demise of “Traditional” LCN As We Knew It!...
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the Mafia is just a mirror and a reflection of our larger society in general./ All true. And one of the biggest reasons for the demise of "Traditional OC," (the Mafia as we knew it), is assimilation: A century or more ago, Italian Americans were among the most despised and disrespected victims of bigotry in America. They reacted in part by banding together, as they did in Southern Italy and Sicily, against outsiders. Opportunities for advancement were practically nonexistent. Some ambitious and intelligent young men turned to OC as a means to make some money and gain respect. A few with leadership qualities, like Accardo, Costello, Luciano, Gambino, even Castellano, could have been successful in business, the professions or the arts if they'd had the opportunity. They didn't. Today's bright young Italian Americans are more Americanized and more confident: college, not the Mob, is their destination of choice. The Mob gets the Gottis, Gaspipes and Gravanos. That was very well put, Turnbull...I'm glad we agree. And the additional points you mention are also true and only add to bolster my (our) opinion on the subject...It is a much different world for them today. It took quite awhile, but today, the Italians, as a people, are fully assimilated into the American mainstream and find themselves solidly in the middle and upper classes of society. And to your point, typically, only the lower dregs of society - and a scraping of the bottom of the Italian barrel - so to speak, go into organized crime today as a career choice. Today's young Italian men are generally too well educated, have too much going for them, and have too many great opportunities available to them to have to resort to gangs, mobs and criminality. +1
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