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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Toodoped] #1077566
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Originally Posted by Toodoped
This pic was taken from my old mobile phone more then ten years ago from Luzi's book but these guys placed a watermark on it like its theirs lol lol lol anyways....

Chicago Outfit heavyweights Jim Ammiratto aka Emery and Dominick Roberto together with Lucky Luciano in Italy...

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Was Dominck Roberto one of the "3 Doms?"

Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Big_Tuna93] #1077569
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Originally Posted by Big_Tuna93
Originally Posted by Toodoped
This pic was taken from my old mobile phone more then ten years ago from Luzi's book but these guys placed a watermark on it like its theirs lol lol lol anyways....

Chicago Outfit heavyweights Jim Ammiratto aka Emery and Dominick Roberto together with Lucky Luciano in Italy...

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Was Dominck Roberto one of the "3 Doms?"


Nope. Dom Roberto was Chicago capo or territorial boss for Chicago Heights, Calumet City, Blue Island, Joliet, East Chicago and northwest Indiana. He helped Capone and Masseria in eliminating the second Sicilian Mafia family from those same areas. During the early 1930's Roberto was deported to Italy and was replaced with Ammiratto aka Emery. Besides that, Roberto was constantly visited in Italy by his Outfit peers until his death.


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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Hollander] #1077571
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This connection began back on the Lower East Side, when a sixteen-year-old kid shot a policeman and was destined for the electric chair. His mother was a cousin of Lucky Luciano and begged him to help her boy escape justice. The mobster intervened and had him smuggled out of the country via Canada to Sicily. There, with his America connections, he became head of his local Mafia family. It was this criminal that Alfieri made contact with in Licata, and the code word he was to give him was “Lucky Luciano.”

Any idea who the future mafia boss was?


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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Toodoped] #1077572
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Originally Posted by Toodoped
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This pic was taken from my old mobile phone more then ten years ago from Luzi's book but these guys placed a watermark on it like its theirs lol lol lol anyways....

Chicago Outfit heavyweights Jim Ammiratto aka Emery and Dominick Roberto together with Lucky Luciano in Italy...

[Linked Image]


Was Dominck Roberto one of the "3 Doms?"


Nope. Dom Roberto was Chicago capo or territorial boss for Chicago Heights, Calumet City, Blue Island, Joliet, East Chicago and northwest Indiana. He helped Capone and Masseria and eliminating the second Sicilian Mafia family from those same areas. During the early 1930's Roberto was deported to Italy and was replaced with Ammiratto aka Emery. Besides that, Roberto was constantly visited in Italy by his Outfit peers until his death.


As always, great info. Merry Christmas, pal.

Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Big_Tuna93] #1077574
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Originally Posted by Big_Tuna93
Originally Posted by Toodoped
Originally Posted by Big_Tuna93
Originally Posted by Toodoped
This pic was taken from my old mobile phone more then ten years ago from Luzi's book but these guys placed a watermark on it like its theirs lol lol lol anyways....

Chicago Outfit heavyweights Jim Ammiratto aka Emery and Dominick Roberto together with Lucky Luciano in Italy...

[Linked Image]


Was Dominck Roberto one of the "3 Doms?"


Nope. Dom Roberto was Chicago capo or territorial boss for Chicago Heights, Calumet City, Blue Island, Joliet, East Chicago and northwest Indiana. He helped Capone and Masseria and eliminating the second Sicilian Mafia family from those same areas. During the early 1930's Roberto was deported to Italy and was replaced with Ammiratto aka Emery. Besides that, Roberto was constantly visited in Italy by his Outfit peers until his death.


As always, great info. Merry Christmas, pal.

Thank you bud and Merry Christmas to you and yours.


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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Hollander] #1077840
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Another interesting article from the 1940s...

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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Hollander] #1077847
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Lucky Luciano was like a John Gotti or Joey Merlino, you get too charismatic and powerful and prosecutors get jealous and take notice.

Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Liggio] #1077858
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Originally Posted by Liggio
Lucky Luciano was like a John Gotti or Joey Merlino, you get too charismatic and powerful and prosecutors get jealous and take notice.


I agree to an extent since the same thing happened to Capone, Nitti and others, although I dont think that the prosecutors became "jealous" but instead that same negative emotion belonged to the people around them or from their own crime families who secretly filled the brains of investigators with all type of info, including lies, and thats when the prosecutors usually take "notice".

Btw, heres another interesting article from 1954 regarding Dewey and the Luciano case...

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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Hollander] #1077885
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Paul Ricca was born 1897 Nov 14
Lucky Luciano was born 1897 Nov 11


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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Hollander] #1077924
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Paul Ricca was born 1897 Nov 14
Lucky Luciano was born 1897 Nov 11

Thats interesting, thanks


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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Hollander] #1078371
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I kinda doubt that Luciano was as broke or impoverished in his last years as he's been made out to be. Have you guys seen his fancy-pants funeral? I don't know who paid for it, but it's definitely not the funeral of a poor or a broke man.

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Originally Posted by Liggio
I kinda doubt that Luciano was as broke or impoverished in his last years as he's been made out to be. Have you guys seen his fancy-pants funeral? I don't know who paid for it, but it's definitely not the funeral of a poor or a broke man.


When Luciano died of an apparent heart attack at Capodichino airport the United States and Italian authorities prepared to arrest him in a crackdown on an international narcotics ring. Some even suspected foul play in his death.


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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Hollander] #1078647
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Originally Posted by Hollander

Lucky Luciano was born 1897 Nov 11

Luciano was actually born on November 24, 1897. Many sources, including the FBI get this wrong. He came to America on June 22, 1906

source:https://www.magcloud.com/browse/issue/366261 Informer is getting this from the Lercara Friddi birth records.

Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Hollander] #1078700
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The main and obvious point was that they were both born in November 1987. Dont act like "bugz on our nutz" lol

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Btw, thanks again @H for the info.


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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Hollander] #1078722
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You guys are totally rocking this thread.

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Originally Posted by Toodoped
The main and obvious point was that they were both born in November 1987. Dont act like "bugz on our nutz" lol

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Btw, thanks again @H for the info.

Lol, just correcting some common misconceptions, as i imagine you would if i made the same mistake.

Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Jimmy_Two_Times] #1078810
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Originally Posted by Jimmy_Two_Times
You guys are totally rocking this thread.


Thanks Jimmy.


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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Hollander] #1078817
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In 1928 Luciano was picked up on a false charge just to be questioned regarding the murder of Arnold Rothstein....

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Also heres another report regarding Genovese from 1944...

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And another one regarding Costello from 1943...

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Re: Lucky Luciano in Naples [Re: Hollander] #1078907
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From 1947....

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