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5 Young Men Beheaded by Mexican Drug Cartel #1067129
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"5 young men lured by fake job offer, brutally murdered by Mexican drug cartel on camera"
By Lawrence Richard - Fox News

The five young men who went missing in Mexico and were later shown on camera being brutally murdered by a Mexican drug cartel were lured to meet the gang with a fake job offer, according to a report.
The young men, all students and friends whose ages ranged between 19 and 22, who were duct-taped, beaten, stabbed and beheaded in a horrifically graphic video that made its rounds online this week, sought employment as private security, met a contact in town and were not seen again until the video surfaced, according to El Universal.
According to El Universal journalist Carlos Arrieta, the men were deceived into a meeting with the Jalisco Nueva Generación (CJNG) cartel. They hoped to recruit the victims into their ranks and killed them after they refused.
The men were later identified by their relatives as Roberto Olmeda, Diego Lara, Uriel Galvan, Jaime Martinez and Dante Cedillo, El Pais reported.
El Universal reported the “strongest hypothesis” pointed to the young men contacting a call center to gain employment. Unbeknownst to the friends, the center is often “managed by the CJNG for [the] forced recruitment of people,” the outlet reported.

According to the report, these call centers offer high-paying jobs with attractive job benefits that are actually a hoax to trick young people into the CJNG, which then forcefully recruits applicants.
The Fiscalía del Estado de Jalisco — the Attorney General’s Office in the Mexican state of Jalisco — has yet to confirm the report and has not yet confirmed which of the two major drug cartels that vie for control over the La Orilla del Agua neighborhood in the town of Lagos de Moreno — the CJNG or the Sinaloa cartel — are responsible for the video and deaths.

El Pais reported the mark “Pure MZ” on the released video is attributed to Mayo Zambada, the leader of the Sinaloa cartel.
On Wednesday afternoon, Mexican authorities located the property where the photo and video were allegedly filmed and found four burned and decapitated bodies.
The bodies were badly burned and had not yet been identified, according to prosecutors in the western state of Jalisco. However, the bodies were found inside a building near where the young men were kidnapped Friday and later photographed in captivity.

A fifth body was found by police inside a burned-out car in a nearby area.
Photos shared by Jalisco prosecutors show brick and concrete buildings on a ranch, isolated by an open field. They also showed bloodstains on the floor, shoes scattered about and investigators examining the area.
“This makes one think the five youths were there at this ranch,” the state prosecutor’s office said in a statement Wednesday.

During a news briefing Wednesday morning, Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador described the killings as “very regrettable,” while saying very little else about them. He mentioned federal prosecutors were taking over the case from Jalisco authorities as drug cartels were involved.

The young men went missing Friday while on a trip to attend a festival in the city of Lagos de Moreno, an area known for cartel violence.
They were next seen bound by tape, kneeling on the ground and surrounded by gang members, with one of them seen bludgeoning and apparently decapitating his friend.

It revives memories of the most horrifying instances of drug cartel brutality, where kidnapped victims were forced to fight and even kill each other in gruesome ways.
In 2010, the old Zetas cartel abducted men and forced any who refused to work for the cartel to beat each other to death with sledgehammers.
The following year, authorities found 48 clandestine graves containing the bodies of 193 people in the northern border state of Tamaulipas. Most had their skulls crushed with sledgehammers.

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I dont care what anyone says, Cartels are nothing but a sick twisted demonic cult that deals in drugs.

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Just think, if LCN was this violent, we wouldn't have Dom Cicale rapping on YouTube or Bingy Arillotta hanging back out in Springfield.

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This serves as a stark reminder of just how evil the world can be.
Joe Biden and the rest of the fake compassion democrats should be forced to watch that video next time they talk about open borders.
Mexico needs to get there act together and slaughter each and every cartel member.

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This is why the world should consider them terrorists instead of criminal organizations.


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Yeah, I mean, as a criminal organization if you lack the charisma and seduction to make people want to join on their own, then that's your fucking fault. Don't go killing innocent people.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
This is why the world should consider them terrorists instead of criminal organizations.


Thats exactly what they are.

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
I dont care what anyone says, Cartels are nothing but a sick twisted demonic cult that deals in drugs.


Yep, I agree. These cretins are sick in every way possible. And "demonic" is a good word for them.

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The entire world should be outraged by this .

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Bill Barr Lays Out War on Terror Playbook for Decimating Mexican Drug Cartels

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...ook-for-decimating-mexican-drug-cartels/


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People say we can't win a war with the Cartels. Which is a bunch of bullshit.

Here's one scenario I'd like to see.

Mexico gives us the order to come in there full force. If they do not, then we simply invade the pieces of shit. Their military will not win a war against us, they have no chance.

With the technology we have , we can easily get plenty of surveillance to know exactly where each Cartel hub is located in Mexico. Within hours we unleash a bombing scenario and take over that we haven't seen since World War 2. We force every fuckin cartel man that is left to surrender while over 99 % of the rest of them are blown to pieces. If they try again, we kill them, no questions asked. Eye for an eye. They want to kill our people? We massacre Mexico until there is nothing left. Mexico has been given way too many chances and enough is enough.


But here's the one problem. China is on their side so it may end up being a fucking war against them also.

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Here is a better idea. We cut off all funding to mexico and perhaps trade.

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Originally Posted by Lenox
Here is a better idea. We cut off all funding to mexico and perhaps trade.


Or how about we put the destruction on national tv and say on air "we are coming for every one of you motherfuckers!" As we kill them all.

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Does anyone think that the government really desires to win the so-called "War on Drugs?" They probably benefit more from it being illegal.

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Originally Posted by Liggio
Does anyone think that the government really desires to win the so-called "War on Drugs?" They probably benefit more from it being illegal.


The US have been cautious to intervene in foreign countries since the debacle of Afghanistan, where the heroin production has grown to massive proportions the last year and the quality has never been better of white afghan heroin.


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As long there is a demand for coke or heroine or all other stimulants it's a lost cause..


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I don't see what's wrong with getting high. Hell, if my job didn't drug test I'd do it lol. Heroin is basically death in a needle, but cocaine is a fun party drug. I think it's the harsh drugs made with it that's the problem. But I've seen heroin addicts firsthand, it's nothing pretty.

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Originally Posted by Liggio
I don't see what's wrong with getting high. Hell, if my job didn't drug test I'd do it lol. Heroin is basically death in a needle, but cocaine is a fun party drug. I think it's the harsh drugs made with it that's the problem. But I've seen heroin addicts firsthand, it's nothing pretty.


To each his own I was never attracted to heroin but a friend was addicted and in the 80s we had a lot of hookers addicted, now it's better but there will always be junkies. My friend got clean and now only drinks beer and a joint now and then.


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Look at all the government officials who profit from being paid off by cartel bosses. Hell they get the best drugs to snort at Holiday parties.

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The Mexican government and military is corrupt (like many of these types of nations,) and half the time they're in league with these narco-traffickers.

So nothing significant is ever gonna change there....couple that with our weak response to their activities and the result is the problem you see.

Narcotics use and trafficking has been around for ages...and its not gonna end anytime soon. Thats not to say that we shouldn't try our best...I'm just sayin'

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My guess is that at one point or another it'll cool down. Mexican OC will always be around and has been around for a long time - the Gulf Cartel for instance started already in the 1930's - but I doubt it'll remain as endemic as it is nowadays. The organized crime landscape in Mexico these days is going through a phase of disintegration which leads to infighting which in turn leads to a lot of carnage. This has happened before in other countries - Italy during the early 80's, Colombia during the late 80's and Russia during the 90's to name a few of the most famous examples - and even though organized crime never disappeared it did stabilize. I agree with the sentiment that what's happening in Mexico right now may be extraordinarily fierce and horrific, but don't forget we live in a digital age right now and basically everything that happens in plain sight is going to be made known to the entire world. That still wasn't the case 30 years ago.

As for the USA going to war with Mexico over cartel stuff...anybody who thinks there's even a plausibility to that scenario should wake up and quit the dreaming. Despite all of the tin foil "China-Mexico" theories the relationship between the USA and Mexico is as strong as it has ever been. As of 2023 Mexico is the US' biggest trading buddy (yep, bigger than Canada) and the US military and the Mexican military are still tight.

I'd say what Mexico is going through is sad to see. It's a country with such a vibrant and unique culture and atmosphere as well as millions of some of the friendliest people you'll ever meet living there. Even though I have no doubt that the situation is going to stabilize one day, seeing the country suffer as much as it is right now is disheartening.

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Originally Posted by NYMafia
The Mexican government and military is corrupt (like many of these types of nations,) and half the time they're in league with these narco-traffickers.

So nothing significant is ever gonna change there....couple that with our weak response to their activities and the result is the problem you see.

Narcotics use and trafficking has been around for ages...and its not gonna end anytime soon. Thats not to say that we shouldn't try our best...I'm just sayin'


Not sure if you have ever seen the show Queen of the South? They portray the relationship between the Cartels and the military pretty well in regards to how it really is down there.

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This is just another day in Mexico , there are beheadings there everyday, tortures , skinning people and so on. Their brains are eaten by cheap drugs and violence they witness everyday , their life expectancy is like 5-6 months at most.


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Originally Posted by Strax
This is just another day in Mexico , there are beheadings there everyday, tortures , skinning people and so on. Their brains are eaten by cheap drugs and violence they witness everyday , their life expectancy is like 5-6 months at most.


Do you feel that most cartel members are drug abusers?

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Originally Posted by RushStreet


Do you feel that most cartel members are drug abusers?



Low level guys who usually commit those atrocities are drug users, people who are running the show are usually not drug users. Remember when Los Zetas were recruiting they were offering 3000 pesos a week , its like 170$ weekly , its just very miserable life. Z-40 who was probably worst of the worst , from microwaving a baby to organizing gladiator battles with captured tourists , he was heavy drug user but also he was very high ranking , so at the end there are no rules.

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Originally Posted by Strax
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Do you feel that most cartel members are drug abusers?



Low level guys who usually commit those atrocities are drug users, people who are running the show are usually not drug users. Remember when Los Zetas were recruiting they were offering 3000 pesos a week , its like 170$ weekly , its just very miserable life. Z-40 who was probably worst of the worst , from microwaving a baby to organizing gladiator battles with captured tourists , he was heavy drug user but also he was very high ranking , so at the end there are no rules.


A modern day Carlos Lehder.

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They just get stupid down there. Nobody seems to learn the mafia way, just disappear them. Point proven and you don’t get a ton of heat like you will from shit like this

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Originally Posted by dixiemafia
They just get stupid down there. Nobody seems to learn the mafia way, just disappear them. Point proven and you don’t get a ton of heat like you will from shit like this


They hold the belief that adopting extreme brutality will provide them with a level of fear that secures their position. Nevertheless, history has shown us that this approach loses significance over time. Sooner or later, they will provoke the ire of a much more powerful entity.


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Originally Posted by Giacalone
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They just get stupid down there. Nobody seems to learn the mafia way, just disappear them. Point proven and you don’t get a ton of heat like you will from shit like this


They hold the belief that adopting extreme brutality will provide them with a level of fear that secures their position. Nevertheless, history has shown us that this approach loses significance over time. Sooner or later, they will provoke the ire of a much more powerful entity.


Where does this belief come from? There worshipping of evil powers such as Satan himself?

Its such a weird thing that they do this considering Mexicans usually have a very strong belief in God through the Catholic church.

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Originally Posted by Giacalone

They hold the belief that adopting extreme brutality will provide them with a level of fear that secures their position. Nevertheless, history has shown us that this approach loses significance over time. Sooner or later, they will provoke the ire of a much more powerful entity.


True, Los Zetas started it first , but soon everyone else started doing it too and now its just an never ending circle, the ones that torture today are the ones that are tortured in next few months.


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It's almost ironic how these horror-levels of violence started. Even though extreme acts of violence have always been around in Mexico's drug world, it were indeed Los Zetas who were arguably the originators of committing these brutalities on such a scale as well as distributing these filmed acts to the public. Their original point of view was that if they would capture and slaughter a few rival cartel members in the most heinous way they could think of, it would scare all of the other cartels off and rivals would get discouraged from interfering with their routes. They actually thought that if they would brutalize only a comparatively few rivals to set an example their newfound reputation would do the rest and they would actually have to commit less violence in the long run. It's an age old guerrilla tactic.

As we can see, the opposite actually happened and as a reaction to the Zetas modus operandi basically EVERY active cartel in Mexico began with the dismembering, sledgehammering, beheading, flaying, burning, boiling, etc...and now it's just a continuous freakshow contest in trying to one-up and outgross each other when finding ways to butcher rivals.

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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
It's almost ironic how these horror-levels of violence started. Even though extreme acts of violence have always been around in Mexico's drug world, it were indeed Los Zetas who were arguably the originators of committing these brutalities on such a scale as well as distributing these filmed acts to the public. Their original point of view was that if they would capture and slaughter a few rival cartel members in the most heinous way they could think of, it would scare all of the other cartels off and rivals would get discouraged from interfering with their routes. They actually thought that if they would brutalize only a comparatively few rivals to set an example their newfound reputation would do the rest and they would actually have to commit less violence in the long run. It's an age old guerrilla tactic.

As we can see, the opposite actually happened and as a reaction to the Zetas modus operandi basically EVERY active cartel in Mexico began with the dismembering, sledgehammering, beheading, flaying, burning, boiling, etc...and now it's just a continuous freakshow contest in trying to one-up and outgross each other when finding ways to butcher rivals.


Not only Los Zetas started it , but they were worst of the worst , with their mass murders of innocent people , insane tortures and so on. There are still stuff like "guerrero flaying" and "funkytown" that are considered to be worst stuff cartels did , but Zetas were on another level.


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Originally Posted by Strax
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It's almost ironic how these horror-levels of violence started. Even though extreme acts of violence have always been around in Mexico's drug world, it were indeed Los Zetas who were arguably the originators of committing these brutalities on such a scale as well as distributing these filmed acts to the public. Their original point of view was that if they would capture and slaughter a few rival cartel members in the most heinous way they could think of, it would scare all of the other cartels off and rivals would get discouraged from interfering with their routes. They actually thought that if they would brutalize only a comparatively few rivals to set an example their newfound reputation would do the rest and they would actually have to commit less violence in the long run. It's an age old guerrilla tactic.

As we can see, the opposite actually happened and as a reaction to the Zetas modus operandi basically EVERY active cartel in Mexico began with the dismembering, sledgehammering, beheading, flaying, burning, boiling, etc...and now it's just a continuous freakshow contest in trying to one-up and outgross each other when finding ways to butcher rivals.


Not only Los Zetas started it , but they were worst of the worst , with their mass murders of innocent people , insane tortures and so on. There are still stuff like "guerrero flaying" and "funkytown" that are considered to be worst stuff cartels did , but Zetas were on another level.


It wasn't their original intention, but Los Zetas went off the rails quickly. Lazcano started to get high on his own supply and his methods became increasingly outrageous and deranged. The mass murders of migrants and innocents however started when Treviño took over the reigns. Unlike the original Zetas, Treviño wasn't a trained and experienced soldier but a usual hoodlum. Subsequent Zetas recruits were also just hoodlums instead of trained soldiers. Nowadays there's a split between a faction of what's left of the original Los Zetas and the so-called CDN. I remember reading that especially CDN nowadays is made up of garden variety psychos and junkies. The OG Zetas remnants are still their own organization, but ironically they've allied with Gulf Cartel.

For some reason many of the most notorious video's are not by Los Zetas. "Guerrero Flaying" was done by a lesser know local drug trafficking gang named Los Viagras and I think that the Sinaloa Cartel were the ones behind "Funkytown". Last year a ton of video's could be traced back to CJNG.

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You can trace it all back to the notorious DFS intelligence agency and secret police. They created the Guadalajara Cartel, Juárez Cartel, Sinaloa Cartel etc..


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So whos the biggest cartel boss right now?

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
So whos the biggest cartel boss right now?


El Mencho and El Mayo.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
You can trace it all back to the notorious DFS intelligence agency and secret police. They created the Guadalajara Cartel, Juárez Cartel, Sinaloa Cartel etc..


In the 1980's it was basically one entity named "The Federation" which consisted of the Guadalajara Cartel, Sinaloa Cartel, Juarez Cartel and Tijuana Cartel.
Gulf Cartel always operated as a separate organization and controlled their own routes.

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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
The OG Zetas remnants are still their own organization, but ironically they've allied with Gulf Cartel.


I don't know if there is anyone alive from the OG Zetas , i am speaking about people that are ex-military/special forces, most of them are dead or in prison , a few of them are still free , but since no one saw them for 10+ years , i would say they are all dead.

Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke

Last year a ton of video's could be traced back to CJNG.


CJNG is most 'active' cartel in the past 4-5 years and also cartel with most territory under their control. They are waging wars with various groups all over Mexico , but i think as fast as they rose to top , they will fall down , same with Zetas.

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This is what is left of Los Zetas:

Talibanes (Z-50 and Z-50 people) they operate in Zacatecas and Aguascalientes.

Alemanes (people loyal to The Alemán) they operate in San Luis Potosí. Alemán used to be Z-40 right hand but he switch sides and created a cell called the Alemanes. They are fighting against the CJNG in San Luis Potosí.

Old School Zetas: (Chuy Sierra 7 and Pawa are there leaders) they operate in the center of Tamaulipas like: Ciudad Victoria, San Fernando, Mendez, Barretal, Ciudad Mante, etc. They maintain a truce peace with CDG from Matamoros and CDG Metros.

CDN (They don’t have much power outside of Nuevo Laredo)

Sangre Nueva Zeta (El Buchanan’s it’s their leader) they operate in Veracruz, Puebla, Tlaxcal


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Do the bosses of these cartels ever have sit downs with one another?

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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
It's almost ironic how these horror-levels of violence started. Even though extreme acts of violence have always been around in Mexico's drug world, it were indeed Los Zetas who were arguably the originators of committing these brutalities on such a scale as well as distributing these filmed acts to the public. Their original point of view was that if they would capture and slaughter a few rival cartel members in the most heinous way they could think of, it would scare all of the other cartels off and rivals would get discouraged from interfering with their routes. They actually thought that if they would brutalize only a comparatively few rivals to set an example their newfound reputation would do the rest and they would actually have to commit less violence in the long run. It's an age old guerrilla tactic.

As we can see, the opposite actually happened and as a reaction to the Zetas modus operandi basically EVERY active cartel in Mexico began with the dismembering, sledgehammering, beheading, flaying, burning, boiling, etc...and now it's just a continuous freakshow contest in trying to one-up and outgross each other when finding ways to butcher rivals.


So whoever was running the Zetas was a fucking idiot.

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Originally Posted by Strax
This is what is left of Los Zetas:

Talibanes (Z-50 and Z-50 people) they operate in Zacatecas and Aguascalientes.

Alemanes (people loyal to The Alemán) they operate in San Luis Potosí. Alemán used to be Z-40 right hand but he switch sides and created a cell called the Alemanes. They are fighting against the CJNG in San Luis Potosí.

Old School Zetas: (Chuy Sierra 7 and Pawa are there leaders) they operate in the center of Tamaulipas like: Ciudad Victoria, San Fernando, Mendez, Barretal, Ciudad Mante, etc. They maintain a truce peace with CDG from Matamoros and CDG Metros.

CDN (They don’t have much power outside of Nuevo Laredo)

Sangre Nueva Zeta (El Buchanan’s it’s their leader) they operate in Veracruz, Puebla, Tlaxcal


The fragmentation and subsequent demise of Los Zetas is no surprise. They were never gonna last. At the end of the day they were more of an insurgent group whereas the Sinaloa, Guadalajara/Jalisco, Juarez, Tijuana and Gulf cartels all have long standing organizational structures.

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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
It's almost ironic how these horror-levels of violence started. Even though extreme acts of violence have always been around in Mexico's drug world, it were indeed Los Zetas who were arguably the originators of committing these brutalities on such a scale as well as distributing these filmed acts to the public. Their original point of view was that if they would capture and slaughter a few rival cartel members in the most heinous way they could think of, it would scare all of the other cartels off and rivals would get discouraged from interfering with their routes. They actually thought that if they would brutalize only a comparatively few rivals to set an example their newfound reputation would do the rest and they would actually have to commit less violence in the long run. It's an age old guerrilla tactic.

As we can see, the opposite actually happened and as a reaction to the Zetas modus operandi basically EVERY active cartel in Mexico began with the dismembering, sledgehammering, beheading, flaying, burning, boiling, etc...and now it's just a continuous freakshow contest in trying to one-up and outgross each other when finding ways to butcher rivals.


So whoever was running the Zetas was a fucking idiot.


A combination of getting power hungry and getting high on your own supply never leads to a good outcome.

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
Do the bosses of these cartels ever have sit downs with one another?


A famous sit-down happened in 2007 between El Chapo and Heriberto Lazcano, the original leader of Los Zetas who was then still in charge of the enforcement wing for the Gulf Cartel. The sit-down was organized to decide which plazas in which states would remain under control of Gulf Cartel and which would go to the Sinaloa Cartel. A funny anecdote I've read about that particular meeting is the following;

" When the Zetas met for a meeting with the Sinaloa Cartel in 2007 in Tamaulipas... El Chapo was the last to arrive and looked straight at El Lazca and said "If I was gay, I would've fucked you by now." "

Lazcano at that time was still a trained military guy and allegedly he was really good looking lol.

Meetings used to happen way more in the past. Don't forget that Guadalajara/Jalisco, Sinaloa, Juarez and Tijuana all used to operate under the same umbrella with the Gulf Cartel being the only major cartel that operated as a truly separate organization.

It doesn't seem like there's much sit-downs going on these days. Nowadays it's basically one big shit show of everyone fighting everyone and more and more organizations that used to be wings of a bigger cartel thinking they can strike out on their own.

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I just wanted to write about that sit-down between El Chapo and Lazcano. That was during the war Sinaloa vs Los Zetas , so that comment of Chapo calmed tensions down.

I agree, there are not sit-downs anymore , El Mayo is somewhere in the mountains , i don't think he ever attended any meeting in the past 15 years, El Mencho travels with convoy of 20+ trucks, they are rarely going to any meetings.


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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Originally Posted by RushStreet
Do the bosses of these cartels ever have sit downs with one another?


A famous sit-down happened in 2007 between El Chapo and Heriberto Lazcano, the original leader of Los Zetas who was then still in charge of the enforcement wing for the Gulf Cartel. The sit-down was organized to decide which plazas in which states would remain under control of Gulf Cartel and which would go to the Sinaloa Cartel. A funny anecdote I've read about that particular meeting is the following;

" When the Zetas met for a meeting with the Sinaloa Cartel in 2007 in Tamaulipas... El Chapo was the last to arrive and looked straight at El Lazca and said "If I was gay, I would've fucked you by now." "

Lazcano at that time was still a trained military guy and allegedly he was really good looking lol.

Meetings used to happen way more in the past. Don't forget that Guadalajara/Jalisco, Sinaloa, Juarez and Tijuana all used to operate under the same umbrella with the Gulf Cartel being the only major cartel that operated as a truly separate organization.

It doesn't seem like there's much sit-downs going on these days. Nowadays it's basically one big shit show of everyone fighting everyone and more and more organizations that used to be wings of a bigger cartel thinking they can strike out on their own.


I Firmly believe this shit show will end sooner than later and eventually the new bosses that take over will make changes where the cartels are ran like the LCN here in America. They are going to realize that violence isn't the best option when running things.

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In the old days it were just a bunch of crime families all originated in Sinaloa even Arellano Félix clan in Tijuana.


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Originally Posted by RushStreet
I Firmly believe this shit show will end sooner than later and eventually the new bosses that take over will make changes where the cartels are ran like the LCN here in America. They are going to realize that violence isn't the best option when running things.


That will never happen, this level of violence will eventually end but its never going to be like Cosa Nostra in US. Its same with Colombia,Brasil and so on. Too many groups and too many people living off of drugs ,high level of corruption, there will always be more violence than anywhere else in the world.

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Don't forget Mexico was home to the Mayans lol.

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Sculpture in the Great Ballcourt at Chichen Itza depicting sacrifice by decapitation. The figure at left holds the severed head of the figure at right, who spouts blood in the form of serpents from his neck
During the pre-Columbian era, human sacrifice in Maya culture was the ritual offering of nourishment to the gods and goddesses. Blood was viewed as a potent source of nourishment for the Maya deities, and the sacrifice of a living creature was a powerful blood offering. By extension, the sacrifice of human life was the ultimate offering of blood to the gods, and the most important Maya rituals culminated in human sacrifice. Generally, only high-status prisoners of war were sacrificed, and lower status captives were used for labor.[1]


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Don't forget Mexico was home to the Mayans lol.

Maya culture

Sculpture in the Great Ballcourt at Chichen Itza depicting sacrifice by decapitation. The figure at left holds the severed head of the figure at right, who spouts blood in the form of serpents from his neck
During the pre-Columbian era, human sacrifice in Maya culture was the ritual offering of nourishment to the gods and goddesses. Blood was viewed as a potent source of nourishment for the Maya deities, and the sacrifice of a living creature was a powerful blood offering. By extension, the sacrifice of human life was the ultimate offering of blood to the gods, and the most important Maya rituals culminated in human sacrifice. Generally, only high-status prisoners of war were sacrificed, and lower status captives were used for labor.[1]


Yes I was just thinking about this the other day. Their Mayan ancestors were just like they are. Human sacrifices are in their blood. These mexicans are tribal people and the way they do things is because of that. All these cartels are modern day mayan tribes.

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