What is he saying? Is he in his period? Lol lol lol

you claimed the forum was for the most credible guys, I posted screenshots of your king Giacamo Vacari admitting to lying, you then ignore me.

@NYM show this retard this document since he previously questioned one of your statements...but obviously Skully_Cant_Read_Well lol lol lol

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=141904#relPageId=45&search=Masseria_capone

Sully,

Yes, I could provide plenty of evidence in support of my statements, if I was so inclined to. But I won't, because as I just stated in my previous post, I think its better we don't continue this back and forth banter. Go believe what it is you need to believe.

Maybe we'll chat at some other time, about some other subject. But for now, this convo is over, ok?

Thats from Nicola Gentile, ive already read it. Quick question, do you think GV should be banned since this forum is for the most credible researchers only?

I also want to state that if angelina is so credible lol, and incredible lol, then why their podcast (from which i quickly unsubscribed) is so badly sucking wind for subscribers? They get no views whatsoever! Nobody bothers watching their long-winded boring debates. I don't doubt that their forum and podcast are failing. People had enough with those guys since im constantly receiving msgs regarding they being terrible. Salut and nice evening to everyone.

still wont respond to GV being a self admitted liar? There youtube doesnt get views because there content is so advanced. Thats why John Gotti and Al Capone videos get the most views, they are the most well known. You again have yet to provide proof Angelo isnt credible. Also the black hand forum is honestly levels ahead of this one. Not that this one isnt good, but Rick and all those guys arent on here for a reason. You guys praise GV and trash Angelo, you got it all backwards.

The 'Family' that formed around Elizabeth, New Jersey;

Stefano 'Steve' Bedami (1910s-1920s)
Filippo 'Phil' Amari (1930s-1940s)
Nicholas 'Nicky Dell' Delmore (late 1940s-early 1960s)
Simone 'Sam the Plumber' DeCavalcante (early 1960s-early 1980s)
Frank 'Big Frank' Majuri - official NJ-based underboss for many years through several administrations
Joseph 'Joe Buff' LaSelva - another top figure who allegedly served in the capacity as underboss for their CT membership. A co-underboss with Majuri.
Giovanni 'John' Riggi Sr. (early 1980s-2015)
Vincent 'Jimmy' Rotondo - official underboss by the mid-late 1980s. Later murdered.
Francesco 'Frank' Guarraci (acting during 2000s)

Note: At a certain point after massive indictments came down against this family during the late 1980s and 1990s, there were many acting and interim bosses installed, as well as 'family panels' headed by capos that were formed to try and steer the ship. I did not bother to list each and every man who served within this 'acting' capacity.
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How about the Detroit crew? I think that was a pretty straight forward hierarchy, wasn't it? At least by the mid-1930s anyway, after Zerilli and Tocco took over. Does anyone have the particulars about their hierarchical history?

Why am I being brought up? It seems like that is your only card to play. I am not a king to others and no some of us are not fond of each other but we do try and keep it civil, which is more than I can say for across the street. I know I hit almost everyone's nerve over there which is a talent that I admit I relish in. I hear I have my own thread over there, that's nice.
What are you? One of Chris Christy and B's acolytes? CC would not be where "it" is now without many other members carrying CC, mostly HK. That site now it feels like it is Totaltarian. What is sadder, is that S seems like the absentee landlord who just wants to collect rent money, and let the bullies run a muck over there.

My apologies, NYMafia for hijacking the thread.
Go ahead Geoff.

No. Thats quite alright GV. Because I think what you just said really needed to be said.

I try not to bother with any of that nonsense that they constantly feel the need to 'bring' over here. But truth be told, the very fact that nobody (to my knowledge at least) from here, ever goes over 'there' to start shit and attack others, while 'certain' fellas from over 'there' constantly feel the need to come over here and start trouble, (for me), says all you need to know about them, what's going on over at that other place, and their downward spiral.

They like to 'claim' that they're data and research is soooo superior to anything we here on GBB post up. Yet, for fellas who 'pretend' to be so superior, they seem like a very insecure bunch of guys. Why is that? Could it be that in their heart of hearts they know damn well that they're lacking? Me thinks that may very well be the case!

I mean, WTF? Why can't they just mind their own business? Ya know, "live and let live" sort of thing? LOL...These idiots are absolutely "obsessed" with us! Lol. I actually find it extremely comical, and at the same time very sad for them, that we're living 'rent free' inside their heads.

These nincompoops really need to just chill out...and maybe go get themselves a job, or a hobby, or something. LOL.....Because it's sad shit to say the least!

I mean, this thread started because I corrected some info from your post and you then did the same and fair enough I hope you guys are skeptical. But when I provide a made member reporting Mineo was a boss and you say well we don’t know then it’s a bit ridiculous. You also haven’t read May 2014 informer magazine, but still say that you don’t believe he’s boss. Then another guy talks about how good this forum is and I merely posted GV admitting to lying so clearly it’s not the best since you have admitted liars on it. Please don’t think that I believe I’m superior because of this because frankly I know nothing about the mafia post-1931 and I am learning while on here. Most guys on here are probably more knowledgeable than me, but if you expect me to not question things then I’m not sure what to tell you.

This post that I just commented on is NOT about you, understand me good? So please don't take it as such. I am not targeting or referring to you, per se. Ok? So there is not need to take offense or get defensive. But if you are guilty in your heart, well then thats another story all together. Thats your personal problem, understand?

But I've noticed that there are numerous individuals from over 'there' who have constantly felt the need, and are compelled, to constantly come here and try to knock this forum, and our posters. THAT young man, I DO NOT appreciate. Understand?

In other words (for lack of a better term), their skirts are showing!

If they think their shit doesn't stink, then why don't they just stay where they are...over there! I mean, after all, what do they need any of us for anyway, if they're so confident in their abilities? Am I right or wrong here? LOL. If they're really 'all that," then they should be very happy and in bliss just the way things are.....After all, they're the golden children, right?

So then tell me why they are so obsessed with GBB and what its members post up daily?

To me, coming over here to start trouble only shows their true weakness and insecurities. 1,001%! And there is absolutely no two ways about that!

PS: And although I couldn't care less about any of this gibberish and nonsense, because I don't care to follow any of this 'soap opera' BS. Through the grapevine these last few months I've heard they're actually imploding over there big time.

That may provide the real answer why some of them feel the constant 'need' to always be on the attack and strike out.

So the creep who cant read well is still making problems?! NYM, GV and everyone else, ignore that freak and he will go away. He is obviously a member of that junkie crew and has a boring life. If he is here to learn, then he should listen. But he is obviously sent here to make problems. He doesnt know shit and constantly mentiones one outdated article which was written 10 years ago by a heroin addict lol. Thank you Cloumbus for discovering old and uninformative articles.

@NYM and @GV nicely said. 100% spot on.

Lets see if we can get this thread back on track regarding the original subject matter at hand, which was to compile lists of all the "official" Family bosses from the 1920s-2023. What do you say fellas? Enough of the nonsense.
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Here's where we left off:


The 'Family' that formed around Elizabeth, New Jersey;

Stefano 'Steve' Bedami (1910s-1920s)
Filippo 'Phil' Amari (1930s-1940s)
Nicholas 'Nicky Dell' Delmore (late 1940s-early 1960s)
Simone 'Sam the Plumber' DeCavalcante (early 1960s-early 1980s)
Frank 'Big Frank' Majuri - official NJ-based underboss for many years through several administrations
Joseph 'Joe Buff' LaSelva - another top figure who allegedly served in the capacity as underboss for their CT membership. A co-underboss with Majuri.
Giovanni 'John' Riggi Sr. (early 1980s-2015)
Vincent 'Jimmy' Rotondo - official underboss by the mid-late 1980s. Later murdered.
Francesco 'Frank' Guarraci (acting during 2000s)

Note: At a certain point after massive indictments came down against this family during the late 1980s and 1990s, there were many acting and interim bosses installed, as well as 'family panels' headed by capos that were formed to try and steer the ship. I did not bother to list each and every man who served within this 'acting' capacity.
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Would anybody like to add to this list? Or perhaps create a list about another family in the U.S.?

I love how bosses these days are often reputed or alleged bosses. This goes to show that they're back to largely being a secret society. It's also worth noting that many mob trials nowadays end up as complete failures for the feds, with guys walking away with light sentences and sweet plea deals. Some guys really get hammered though, like the Lucchese administration going down for the Meldish hit. I don't remember the details but I do remember the evidence being very weak. I wish I was on that jury, no way would I have voted guilty.

Kansas City
Paolo DiGiovanni 1910-1924, stepped down due to health, dies in 1929.
Joe DiGiovanni 1924- 1931, stepped down, still active till 1950s, died in 1960s.
Nick Gentile 1928 only for a few months as New Yorks main representative before returning to New York which was a good thing as the Carrollos and DiGiovannis were planning on killing him.
John Lazia 1931-1934 murdered.
Charles Carrollo 1934- 1939 arrested
Charles Binaggio 1939- 1950 murdered
Tony Gizzo 1950- 1953
Nick Civella 1953-1983 Died
Carl Civella 1983-1984
William Commisano 1984-1995
Tony Civella 1995-2006
John Sciortino 2006- to present

Funzi Tieri should be on the list along with Gerry Catena. Lombardo certainly wasn't the boss from 1969-1981.

Figured I would jump in here for Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh Family -

Salvatore Catanzaro - 1888-1914 - pre-La Cosa Nostra - retired after being shot
Gregorio Conti - 1915-1919 - murdered 9/24/1919
Salvatore Calderone - 1919-1925 - retired
Stefano Monastero -1925-1929 - murdered 8/6/1929
Guiseppe Siragusa - 1929-1931 - murdered 9/13/1931
John Bazzano Sr - 1931-1932 - murdered 8/8/1932 in Brooklyn after meeting with commission for killing 3 Volpe Brothers without approval
Vincenzo Capizzi - 1932-1937 - retired - moved to Italy
Frank Amato - 1937-1956 - stepped down due to health issues - became Consigliere(died 1973)
Sebastian "John" Larocca - 1956-1984 - died at home 12/3/1984
Michael James Genovese - 1984-2006 - died at home 10/31/2006
John Bazzano Jr - 2006-2008 - died 7/28/2008 - was still running gambling rings, Cinacutti, and other associates.
Thomas "Sonny" Ciancutti - 2008-2021 -died 7/8/21 (91 yrs old) - last made guy - was really the boss of himself at the very end, and a bunch of associates. Was still active in gambling in the 2000teen years.




And as previously discussed elsewhere, FOH has met LaRocca and Genovese in person among others, he is an expert on much of this and has my respect for sharing his experiences, I just read and research, I have not met any of these guys.

+1 FOH is original and his word is gold. Also thanks for the list.

Thanks Millspgh, you and FOH are great with this Pittsburgh stuff..

Thanks GV. Good list

I agree. It seems that crews are trying their best to go back to the 'caves' and stay out of sight. And by avoiding killings, it leaves the feds with only glorified gambling, shylock and frauds cases. Those don't bring life sentences, which in turn helps avoid rats and breakdowns in the ranks.

The family was most likely defunct after Genovese's death. also what evidence is there that Salvatore Calderone was boss? Im aware wiki lists him, but I haven't seen a better source reporting that. We do know he was on the consiglio.

Salvatore Calderone as Boss of Pittsburgh comes from Nicole Gentile and Tony Lima Sr. Gentile first hand knowledge and Lima from his uncle.

Tieri and Catena were never 'official.' Although they were extremely powerful during their time in power, they were still 'acting' for the behind the scenes powers that be.

In fact, it is believed that 'Cockeyed Phil' Lombardo was indeed the 'official' behind the scenes power from the time of Vito's death, until he either died or was retired. So Tieri and whoever else was 'thought' to have been the boss during that period was, in reality, just a front boss and shill for Lombardo and the borgata at large.

Did your info come from Vincent Cafaro? He made some pretty big mistakes in his testimony. Countless other, better sources reported Tieri or Catena were the official bosses. Don't get me wrong, Lombardo was a boss at certain points throughout the 1970's, but Tieri was the official boss the longest most likely.

thanks

I dispute that notion about Tieri. (he always took counsel from others behind the scenes...and not just from consigliere either) And Catena, for a fact, to my knowledge was never the 'official' boss.

But, of course, you're free to believe what you like.

Where is your information coming from though?