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Re: "OFFICIAL" FAMILY BOSSES 1920s-2023 [Re: Sullycantwell] #1064177
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More files, again i ask to share some of yours as im showing mine. [/quote]

I dont know whats between you and NYM, but I appreciate you sharing your articles and files with the resrt of us Sully, I love researching that stuff.
I also think NYM brings a lot of good information to the group as well.
I know nobody asked my 2 cents but you are both assets as far as I am concerned as far as bringing information to the rest of us. You both have a strong interest in this same genre as the rest of us, no reason to argue.

That is all.

Re: "OFFICIAL" FAMILY BOSSES 1920s-2023 [Re: NYMafia] #1064178
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
The Pittston, PA/Binghamton, NY Family

Stefano (Steve) La Torre / early 1900s
Santo Volpe Sr. / mid-1900s to appx 1940
Giovanni (John) Sciandra / 1940-1949
Giuseppe (Joe) Barbara Sr. / 1949-1959
Rosario (Russ) Bufalino / 1959-1994

Edward (Eddie the Conductor) Sciandra /early 1990s (It's a bit murky, but prior to Bufalino's death, this man was be believed to be one of several who helped run what was left of their borgata. Initially after Bufalino's death, Sciandra was thought to have served as interim "Acting Boss” for a time until D'Elia took over.

William (Big Billy) D’Elia /1990s forward (turned informant)


I know there have to be other posts discussing this but let me ask here anyway, is there anythign left of this family? Anyone made still alive? Even if retired?

Re: "OFFICIAL" FAMILY BOSSES 1920s-2023 [Re: NYMafia] #1064184
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Bufalino family. Some corrections.
Tommaso Petto was the first boss. He was orginally with the Morello family while operating in Brooklyn.
Killed in 1905, active in Pittston since 1903 since he was hiding from NYPD, had a cousin living in Pittston and had been visiting the area since 1898. Although two different organizations, they both merged with La Torre becoming boss in 1908. Volpe handed the reigns to John Sciandra sometime in the mid to late 1930s, information suggests that the Nicola Gruppuso murder never sat right with Volpe even though he ordered it. Russell Bufalino was acting boss for John Sciandra in the late 1940s, and three times for Barbara, 1952, 1956-1957 and 1959 before becoming boss. Bufalino was also a former associate of the Buffalo family.
Edward Sciandra was pretty much Russell's righthand man, severing as acting boss numerous times starting in the mid 1970s. That murky early 1990s is because Sciandra and D'Elia were rivals, and by 1992 Sciandra was no longer acting and D'Elia became acting before taking over.


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Joe Barbara Sr, was a former member of Buffalo before transferring to Pittston. His position as boss was confirmed by Carmine Lombardozzi of the Gambino family, Stefano La Torre sons, and William D'Elia.


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Again thank you for the info. Do you have a link to the LaTorre doc where they say that? I was only able to find two docs pertaining to the info they gave. Thanks in advance.

Re: "OFFICIAL" FAMILY BOSSES 1920s-2023 [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1064188
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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Bufalino family. Some corrections.
Tommaso Petto was the first boss. He was orginally with the Morello family while operating in Brooklyn.
Killed in 1905, active in Pittston since 1903 since he was hiding from NYPD, had a cousin living in Pittston and had been visiting the area since 1898. Although two different organizations, they both merged with La Torre becoming boss in 1908. Volpe handed the reigns to John Sciandra sometime in the mid to late 1930s, information suggests that the Nicola Gruppuso murder never sat right with Volpe even though he ordered it. Russell Bufalino was acting boss for John Sciandra in the late 1940s, and three times for Barbara, 1952, 1956-1957 and 1959 before becoming boss. Bufalino was also a former associate of the Buffalo family.
Edward Sciandra was pretty much Russell's righthand man, severing as acting boss numerous times starting in the mid 1970s. That murky early 1990s is because Sciandra and D'Elia were rivals, and by 1992 Sciandra was no longer acting and D'Elia became acting before taking over.


We are generally in agreement here. But I'm not sure about Petto's status as a "boss" over Pittston.

I am aware of mafioso Tomasso Petto, and his presence and activities while living there. But I don't necessarily buy into the fact that "he" ruled the roost. For me, he was just a mafioso 'on the lam' there, hiding out, who was given sanctuary by his fellow mafiosi.

The first organizer and leader of what would become the "Volpe Family" was, to my knowledge, Stefano La Torre, who later abdicated power in favor of his boyhood friend, the iconic mafioso Santo Volpe.

Re: "OFFICIAL" FAMILY BOSSES 1920s-2023 [Re: Millspgh] #1064189
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More files, again i ask to share some of yours as im showing mine. [/quote]

I dont know whats between you and NYM, but I appreciate you sharing your articles and files with the resrt of us Sully, I love researching that stuff.
I also think NYM brings a lot of good information to the group as well.
I know nobody asked my 2 cents but you are both assets as far as I am concerned as far as bringing information to the rest of us. You both have a strong interest in this same genre as the rest of us, no reason to argue.

That is all.[/quote]
Completely fair analysis. as ive said before, NYM is way more knowledgeable than me, but obv not perfect. Arguments aren't bad and can be good, but where they get bad is when info is no longer being shared.

Re: "OFFICIAL" FAMILY BOSSES 1920s-2023 [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1064190
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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Bufalino family. Some corrections.
Tommaso Petto was the first boss. He was orginally with the Morello family while operating in Brooklyn.
Killed in 1905, active in Pittston since 1903 since he was hiding from NYPD, had a cousin living in Pittston and had been visiting the area since 1898. Although two different organizations, they both merged with La Torre becoming boss in 1908. Volpe handed the reigns to John Sciandra sometime in the mid to late 1930s, information suggests that the Nicola Gruppuso murder never sat right with Volpe even though he ordered it. Russell Bufalino was acting boss for John Sciandra in the late 1940s, and three times for Barbara, 1952, 1956-1957 and 1959 before becoming boss. Bufalino was also a former associate of the Buffalo family.
Edward Sciandra was pretty much Russell's righthand man, severing as acting boss numerous times starting in the mid 1970s. That murky early 1990s is because Sciandra and D'Elia were rivals, and by 1992 Sciandra was no longer acting and D'Elia became acting before taking over.

I dont think its fair to call Petto a boss. Just because he was active in Pittston doesn't mean he was a boss. I believe he couldve been, but unless informants believed he was boss, we can't list him so definitely. Also, he may have been in Lupo's family. There were other Lupo members from Petto's hometown.

Re: "OFFICIAL" FAMILY BOSSES 1920s-2023 [Re: NYMafia] #1064191
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Bufalino family. Some corrections.
Tommaso Petto was the first boss. He was orginally with the Morello family while operating in Brooklyn.
Killed in 1905, active in Pittston since 1903 since he was hiding from NYPD, had a cousin living in Pittston and had been visiting the area since 1898. Although two different organizations, they both merged with La Torre becoming boss in 1908. Volpe handed the reigns to John Sciandra sometime in the mid to late 1930s, information suggests that the Nicola Gruppuso murder never sat right with Volpe even though he ordered it. Russell Bufalino was acting boss for John Sciandra in the late 1940s, and three times for Barbara, 1952, 1956-1957 and 1959 before becoming boss. Bufalino was also a former associate of the Buffalo family.
Edward Sciandra was pretty much Russell's righthand man, severing as acting boss numerous times starting in the mid 1970s. That murky early 1990s is because Sciandra and D'Elia were rivals, and by 1992 Sciandra was no longer acting and D'Elia became acting before taking over.


We are generally in agreement here. But I'm not sure about Petto's status as a "boss" over Pittston.

I am aware of mafioso Tomasso Petto, and his presence and activities while living there. But I don't necessarily buy into the fact that "he" ruled the roost. For me, he was just a mafioso 'on the lam' there, hiding out, who was given sanctuary by his fellow mafiosi.

The first organizer and leader of what would become the "Volpe Family" was, to my knowledge, Stefano La Torre, who later abdicated power in favor of his boyhood friend, the iconic mafioso Santo Volpe.



Great info and convo guys. Thanks.


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Re: "OFFICIAL" FAMILY BOSSES 1920s-2023 [Re: NYMafia] #1064195
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A teacher? lol you're a fraud who gets upset when called out for your made up inaccurate info lol whenever you've been questioned by someone who can prove you're wrong you go on the attack to discredit them and your little fanclub jumps in to do the same. Most of your posts are you and toodoped jerking eachother for posts that would be called out anywhere else.

Sullycantwell is right this is the second best forum out of two. There's a reason certain users are here and not else where and why certain users are else where and not here. Certain people have turned this into their own little promo page where they won't get questioned and that's why they don't like people like me and Sullycantwell.

Re: "OFFICIAL" FAMILY BOSSES 1920s-2023 [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1064196
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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Salvatore Calderone as Boss of Pittsburgh comes from Nicole Gentile and Tony Lima Sr. Gentile first hand knowledge and Lima from his uncle.


If Gentile didnt tell his story, today we were going to be "poisoned" by some junkie researchers who think that the Sicilians ruled the whole world, even planet Mars lol.




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Re: "OFFICIAL" FAMILY BOSSES 1920s-2023 [Re: NYMafia] #1064198
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Yes TD, it seems that this Nicola Gentile moved around real good during his years in the American underworld. He relocated to different cities more than a few times through the years, was absorbed into the 'resident' borgata heading that city, and seems to have always been afforded positions of importance within whichever crew he was with at the time.

Re: "OFFICIAL" FAMILY BOSSES 1920s-2023 [Re: NYMafia] #1064199
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Look up Joseph La Torre. He mentions that Barbara was Bufalino boss during the 1950s in that he referred to Barbara as Bufalino Supervisor. Barbara was a capo of Buffalo before moving to Appalachia. Barbara transferred sometime in the mid 1940s and took at least 15 members with him which beefed up Pittston membership to around 50, he even had a soldier in Utica, NY who was a former Bonanno then Buffalo, then finally Pittston.


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I agree GV.

Joe Barbara was an absolute powerhouse! A very, very highly respected mafioso. Deceptively powerful and deadly too!

And, as you say, although he later relocated to Binghamton from Pittston (which was actually an area he had be active within since at least the 1920s-1930s as a gunman and assassin for the family), after Sciandra's death, Barbara was elected boss.

He remained in NYS, overseeing their Upstate faction which numbered at least 25-30 made guys and hundreds of associates, while allowing his underboss, Russ Bufalino (a Pittston resident) to act as overseer for their larger PA membership faction.

These are well established facts.

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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Joe Barbara Sr, was a former member of Buffalo before transferring to Pittston. His position as boss was confirmed by Carmine Lombardozzi of the Gambino family, Stefano La Torre sons, and William D'Elia.

After some research, im not so sure about your sources. in D'Elia's book that came out it specifically says Bufalino took over after Sciandra. It also says Barbara was dispatched to binghamton to oversee Magaddino's operations. As for Carmine Lombardozzi, he contradicted himself. Heres an exerpt from Ed Valin's great article (https://mafiahistory.us/rattrap/inflatorre.html#n37)

"Lombardozzi told agents he first met Bufalino in 1957 at the mob meeting in Apalachin, New York. He had attended Apalachin as part of the Gambino Crime Family delegation led by Carlo Gambino and Paul Castellano. According to Lombardozzi, "Bufalino was introduced [to him] as the head of the family in Pittston, Pennsylvania." [45] He said Bufalino's crime family had fifty members scattered throughout the surrounding towns. He said Bufalino wasn't a Lucchese Crime Family member. At the time Lombardozzi first met Bufalino, Joseph Barbara was still alive. (He died of natural causes in 1959.) If Bufalino were the boss then, that would mean either Barbara was subordinate to Bufalino or Barbara was a member of another crime family altogether. In another debriefing, however, Lombardozzi advised, "Joe Barbara, when living, was the head of his own 'Family' and was the boss. The 'Family' which Barbara headed is now known as the 'Bufalino Family.'" [47] The contradiction between Lombardozzi's two statements is left unexplained in the available FBI reports."

LaTorre's brother Sam also never mentioned Barbara being boss

Joseph did say Barbara was the boss and this is good info to have. Overall though, i dont think we really have enough evidence to make a definitive ruling.

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Originally Posted by Toodoped
Chicago Mafia Official & Acting Bosses 1898 - 1992

1898 - 1901 Salvatore DiGiovanni (not confirmed) (killed in 1901)

1902 - 1909 Mariano Zagone (allegedly confirmed by other researchers) (killed in 1909)

1910 - 1914 Rosario Dispenza (killed in 1914)

1914/15 - 1921 Anthony D'Andrea (killed in 1921)

1921 - 1924 Mike Merlo (died of natural causes in 1924)

1925 - 1928 Anthony Lombardo (killed in 1928)

1928 - 1929 Pasquale Lolordo (killed in 1929)

1929 - 1930 Salvatore Loverde (killed in 1930)

1931 - 1932 Al Capone (imprisoned in 1932)

1932 - 1943 Paul Ricca (imprisoned in 1943)

1944 - 1946 Charles Fischetti (acting under Ricca) (stepped down)

1947 - 1955/56 Tony Accardo (acting under Ricca (released in 47)) (elevated next to Ricca)

1956 - 1964 Sam Giancana (acting under Ricca and Accardo) (imprisoned and later fled the country)

1965/66 - 1967 Sam Battaglia (acting under Ricca and Accardo) (imprisoned)

1967 - 1970 Jack Cerone (acting under Ricca and Accardo) (imprisoned)

1971 - 1972 Ross Prio (died in 72) or Joey Aiuppa (acting under Ricca (died in 72 ) and Accardo)

1973/74 - 1985 Joey Aiuppa (acting under Accardo) (imprisoned)

1986 - 1992 Sam Carlisi (acting under Accardo (died in 92)) (imprisoned)



In addition to my previous post regarding Chicago bosses which starts from 1898 until 1992, heres my opinion regarding the rest of the alleged official bosses starting from 1993 up until 2010...

1993 - 1997 John DiFronzo (with Joey Lombardo as senior advisor) (elevated to top boss in 97/98)

1997 - 2001 John Monteleone (acting under DiFronzo) (died in 2001)

2001 - 2002 Al Tornabene (acting under Difronzo) (stepped down or was elevated next to DiFronzo in 2003)

2003 - 2006 Jimmy Marcello (acting under DiFronzo) (taken to custody in 2006)

2006 - 2010 Mike Sarno (possibly official or still acting under DiFronzo) (imprisoned in 2010)


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Originally Posted by Mafia101
A teacher? lol you're a fraud who gets upset when called out for your made up inaccurate info lol whenever you've been questioned by someone who can prove you're wrong you go on the attack to discredit them and your little fanclub jumps in to do the same. Most of your posts are you and toodoped jerking eachother for posts that would be called out anywhere else.

Sullycantwell is right this is the second best forum out of two. There's a reason certain users are here and not else where and why certain users are else where and not here. Certain people have turned this into their own little promo page where they won't get questioned and that's why they don't like people like me and Sullycantwell.


TD is a good researcher and perhaps the best researcher on Chicago LCN history. Fanclub? Really? Where at? This site is not just about RLOC which makes it a great site, and far better than the other one. But that is comparing apples to organs, as BH is strictly about the OC and gangs, while Gangster bb is Mario Puzo Godfather, his other works, and so much more than that. Did Sol shut it down again? Sol doesn't return my calls so I wouldn't know. Is that why you are over here? If not, then why are you here and not over there if that site is so much better?

Scullycantwell, proud of you, that was fast, but there is still more information out. Might I suggest you look into the JFK files, I am sure you will dive deeper to get your answers. Not all of them but most of them.


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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari

Scullycantwell, proud of you, that was fast, but there is still more information out. Might I suggest you look into the JFK files, I am sure you will dive deeper to get your answers. Not all of them but most of them.

Then link it. Is this how this forum operates? You and NYMafia say a claim, then once questioned say I have other info that disproves you, but I won’t show it so as not to give you attention? I know normally you don’t get called out for anything, rather people give you a standing ovation for merely speaking. Also you mention BHF like they just banned you because they were jealous.

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Chicago Mafia Official & Acting Bosses 1898 - 1992

1898 - 1901 Salvatore DiGiovanni (not confirmed) (killed in 1901)

1902 - 1909 Mariano Zagone (allegedly confirmed by other researchers) (killed in 1909)

1910 - 1914 Rosario Dispenza (killed in 1914)

1914/15 - 1921 Anthony D'Andrea (killed in 1921)

1921 - 1924 Mike Merlo (died of natural causes in 1924)

1925 - 1928 Anthony Lombardo (killed in 1928)

1928 - 1929 Pasquale Lolordo (killed in 1929)

1929 - 1930 Salvatore Loverde (killed in 1930)

1931 - 1932 Al Capone (imprisoned in 1932)

1932 - 1943 Paul Ricca (imprisoned in 1943)

1944 - 1946 Charles Fischetti (acting under Ricca) (stepped down)

1947 - 1955/56 Tony Accardo (acting under Ricca (released in 47)) (elevated next to Ricca)

1956 - 1964 Sam Giancana (acting under Ricca and Accardo) (imprisoned and later fled the country)

1965/66 - 1967 Sam Battaglia (acting under Ricca and Accardo) (imprisoned)

1967 - 1970 Jack Cerone (acting under Ricca and Accardo) (imprisoned)

1971 - 1972 Ross Prio (died in 72) or Joey Aiuppa (acting under Ricca (died in 72 ) and Accardo)

1973/74 - 1985 Joey Aiuppa (acting under Accardo) (imprisoned)

1986 - 1992 Sam Carlisi (acting under Accardo (died in 92)) (imprisoned)



In addition to my previous post regarding Chicago bosses which starts from 1898 until 1992, heres my opinion regarding the rest of the alleged official bosses starting from 1993 up until 2010...

1993 - 1997 John DiFronzo (with Joey Lombardo as senior advisor) (elevated to top boss in 97/98)

1997 - 2001 John Monteleone (acting under DiFronzo) (died in 2001)

2001 - 2002 Al Tornabene (acting under Difronzo) (stepped down or was elevated next to DiFronzo in 2003)

2003 - 2006 Jimmy Marcello (acting under DiFronzo) (taken to custody in 2006)

2006 - 2010 Mike Sarno (possibly official or still acting under DiFronzo) (imprisoned in 2010)


....later ill post my opinion regarding 2011 - 2021. Cheers and remember death to all junkies and provocateurs lol


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New Orleans. This family is the best researched family that can actually be traced.
Raffaele Agnello Early 1860s-1869 killed
Giuseppe Agnello 1869-1872 killed
Giuseppe Macheca 1872-1881
1881-1891 contested, but Macheca always appears to be on top until he was lynched in 1891
Charles Matranga 1891-1922 retired. Semi active as he met with both sides during the Castellammare war. Lived till 1943.
Corrado GIacona 1922-1944 died
Frank Todaro 1944 died
Silvestro Carollo 1944-1947 deported
Carlo Marcello 1947-1983 dies in 1994
Joe Marcello Jr 1983-1990 stepped down do to poor leadership
Anthony Carollo 1990-2007


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No. That is not how this forum operates, just how I operate. Standing novation? More like a golf clap. BH jealous? No more fearful, as there are more frauds, junkies, sick people, thieves and creeps on that site then you know, god the sick people and bullies who have no life just filled with hate cause of shattered dreams. I think I'll take a vocation and have some fun. You all take care now you hear.


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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
No. That is not how this forum operates, just how I operate. Standing novation? More like a golf clap. BH jealous? No more fearful, as there are more frauds, junkies, sick people, thieves and creeps on that site then you know, god the sick people and bullies who have no life just filled with hate cause of shattered dreams. I think I'll take a vocation and have some fun. You all take care now you hear.


Flush em down the toilet GV and have one round on me. Cheers


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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
New Orleans. This family is the best researched family that can actually be traced.
Raffaele Agnello Early 1860s-1869 killed
Giuseppe Agnello 1869-1872 killed
Giuseppe Macheca 1872-1881
1881-1891 contested, but Macheca always appears to be on top until he was lynched in 1891
Charles Matranga 1891-1922 retired. Semi active as he met with both sides during the Castellammare war. Lived till 1943.
Corrado GIacona 1922-1944 died
Frank Todaro 1944 died
Silvestro Carollo 1944-1947 deported
Carlo Marcello 1947-1983 dies in 1994
Joe Marcello Jr 1983-1990 stepped down do to poor leadership
Anthony Carollo 1990-2007





Good post GV

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A teacher? lol you're a fraud who gets upset when called out for your made up inaccurate info lol whenever you've been questioned by someone who can prove you're wrong you go on the attack to discredit them and your little fanclub jumps in to do the same. Most of your posts are you and toodoped jerking eachother for posts that would be called out anywhere else.

Sullycantwell is right this is the second best forum out of two. There's a reason certain users are here and not else where and why certain users are else where and not here. Certain people have turned this into their own little promo page where they won't get questioned and that's why they don't like people like me and Sullycantwell.


TD is a good researcher and perhaps the best researcher on Chicago LCN history. Fanclub? Really? Where at? This site is not just about RLOC which makes it a great site, and far better than the other one. But that is comparing apples to organs, as BH is strictly about the OC and gangs, while Gangster bb is Mario Puzo Godfather, his other works, and so much more than that. Did Sol shut it down again? Sol doesn't return my calls so I wouldn't know. Is that why you are over here? If not, then why are you here and not over there if that site is so much better?

Scullycantwell, proud of you, that was fast, but there is still more information out. Might I suggest you look into the JFK files, I am sure you will dive deeper to get your answers. Not all of them but most of them.


Lol bh is more than OC and gangs. Toodoped knows a lot about Chicago but he has a narrative he tries pushing and that has been very evident and you can't reason with him without him getting rude and defensive. That's the reason he was kicked off the other site and you can see how much that bothers him by how often he brings up little jabs about users on bh who pushed back on his fantasy. The only people who have a problem with bh are the ones who have been kicked off of it after getting called out on their bullshit and its funny since that is the same problem you guys are having with me and Sullycantwell.

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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
New Orleans. This family is the best researched family that can actually be traced.
Raffaele Agnello Early 1860s-1869 killed
Giuseppe Agnello 1869-1872 killed
Giuseppe Macheca 1872-1881
1881-1891 contested, but Macheca always appears to be on top until he was lynched in 1891
Charles Matranga 1891-1922 retired. Semi active as he met with both sides during the Castellammare war. Lived till 1943.
Corrado GIacona 1922-1944 died
Frank Todaro 1944 died
Silvestro Carollo 1944-1947 deported
Carlo Marcello 1947-1983 dies in 1994
Joe Marcello Jr 1983-1990 stepped down do to poor leadership
Anthony Carollo 1990-2007





Good post GV


I agree 100%


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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
New Orleans. This family is the best researched family that can actually be traced.
Raffaele Agnello Early 1860s-1869 killed
Giuseppe Agnello 1869-1872 killed
Giuseppe Macheca 1872-1881
1881-1891 contested, but Macheca always appears to be on top until he was lynched in 1891
Charles Matranga 1891-1922 retired. Semi active as he met with both sides during the Castellammare war. Lived till 1943.
Corrado GIacona 1922-1944 died
Frank Todaro 1944 died
Silvestro Carollo 1944-1947 deported
Carlo Marcello 1947-1983 dies in 1994
Joe Marcello Jr 1983-1990 stepped down do to poor leadership
Anthony Carollo 1990-2007




Just saw this and tnx for the list. Cheers


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Dallas, Texas
Pre 1916- Angelo Genaro, stepped down due to health reasons.
1916- 1925 Carl LaBarba died
1925- 1930 Carlo Piranio died
1930- 1956 Joe Piranio died
1956- 1970 Joe Civello died
1970- 1973 Joe Ianni died
1973- 1990 Joe Campisi died.


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Where are you getting the LaBarba and Genaro being boss?

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Where they both Corleonesi?

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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Dallas, Texas
Pre 1916- Angelo Genaro, stepped down due to health reasons.
1916- 1925 Carl LaBarba died
1925- 1930 Carlo Piranio died
1930- 1956 Joe Piranio died
1956- 1970 Joe Civello died
1970- 1973 Joe Ianni died
1973- 1990 Joe Campisi died.


Thanks for posting Giacomo. Texas is a good addition.

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