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Who's currently running Cosa Nostra? #1048635
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So who is it now that Matteo has been arrested after 30 years on the run? Who will be the next Godfather?

Your thoughts? I do not know much about the Mafia in Italy but I'm sure there is someone next in line for the position.

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For Trapani IDK elections take some time, in Palermo it took several months.

After the death of Riina on 17 November 2017, Settimo Mineo was elected the new head on 29 May 2018 until his arrest on 4 December 2018.

MMD will be the boss till his death.


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There is a lot of debate whether he was the so called boss of bosses in Sicily

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Originally Posted by Mafia101
There is a lot of debate whether he was the so called boss of bosses in Sicily


He was the boss of Trapani, never the sole leader of the Sicillian Mafia.


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I know that's why there's debate about him ruling the Sicilian mafia. He was Capoprovincia of trapani after Vincenzo virga was arrested in 2002. Some reports say he had influence in Palermo and Agrigento but the boss of bosses thing is more of a myth of the media

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Originally Posted by Mafia101
Some reports say he had influence in Palermo and Agrigento but the boss of bosses thing is more of a myth of the media


Only boss of bosses was Riina. MMD was definitely huge influence in Palermo.


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Re: Who's currently running Cosa Nostra? [Re: RushStreet] #1048644
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The capo di tutti capi is a designation for the chairman of a mafia commission. Usually this is also the head of the most powerful mafia family that falls under the committee.


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Originally Posted by Mafia101
I know that's why there's debate about him ruling the Sicilian mafia. He was Capoprovincia of trapani after Vincenzo virga was arrested in 2002. Some reports say he had influence in Palermo and Agrigento but the boss of bosses thing is more of a myth of the media

yes, he was the boss of trapani province, he replaced his father in 1998, the boss of bosses was Totò Riina unti his death, and after him was named the Pagliarelli boss Settimo Mineo

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If there is an overall boss it's Settimo Mineo.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
If there is an overall boss it's Settimo Mineo.


i wonder the role of Giovanni Motisi, in the wiretaps the acting boss Calvaruso said he had the last word

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Originally Posted by m2w
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If there is an overall boss it's Settimo Mineo.


i wonder the role of Giovanni Motisi, in the wiretaps the acting boss Calvaruso said he had the last word


Interesting, maybe he uses Mineo as front boss.


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Originally Posted by Strax
MMD was definitely huge influence in Palermo.


Yes don't forget he is also the brother-in-law of Filippo Guttadauro.


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Originally Posted by Hollander

Yes don't forget he is also the brother-in-law of Filippo Guttadauro.


Guttadauro's are one of the most powerful families within Sicilian mafia. I think Giuseppe "The Doctor" Guttadauro is member of freemasonry.


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Originally Posted by m2w

i wonder the role of Giovanni Motisi, in the wiretaps the acting boss Calvaruso said he had the last word


Wait, Motisi is alive? I am like 90% sure he is dead , there is literally no info on him , with MMD there were a lot of information , while Motisi literally leaves no trace anywhere.


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Settimio Mineo tried to form a new Commission but was arrested before can do it.

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Originally Posted by Strax
Originally Posted by m2w

i wonder the role of Giovanni Motisi, in the wiretaps the acting boss Calvaruso said he had the last word


Wait, Motisi is alive? I am like 90% sure he is dead , there is literally no info on him , with MMD there were a lot of information , while Motisi literally leaves no trace anywhere.

I would assume he is alive

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Originally Posted by Strax
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Yes don't forget he is also the brother-in-law of Filippo Guttadauro.


Guttadauro's are one of the most powerful families within Sicilian mafia. I think Giuseppe "The Doctor" Guttadauro is member of freemasonry.


Messina Denaro appoints his niece as a lawyer: it is Lorenza Guttadauro. Also the niece of the Palermo mafia boss Giuseppe Guttadauro.

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She is daughter of Filippo Guttadauro and Rosalia Messina Denaro.


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Originally Posted by m2w
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i wonder the role of Giovanni Motisi, in the wiretaps the acting boss Calvaruso said he had the last word


Wait, Motisi is alive? I am like 90% sure he is dead , there is literally no info on him , with MMD there were a lot of information , while Motisi literally leaves no trace anywhere.

I would assume he is alive


He def is a ghost. I think a pentito recently linked him to Giuseppe Auteri, also a fugitive for a year or so.
One of his most trusted men was Giuseppe Calvaruso , Pagliarelli's current regent and internationally connected for example Brazil and Singapore. The came very close in 2007, the carabinieri raided a villa in Casteldaccia and discovered that Motisi had celebrated his daughter's birthday there. They also found photographs.
It was one of the fugitive's hideouts, together with an apartment in via Enrico Toti, not far from the University of Palermo. Motisi stayed there without attracting attention. The shutters have never been raised even a millimeter. Here too the military arrived too late.
The investigations for the arrest always remain open and if he indeed died we would heard about it.


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The Inzerillo's have become a force again in recent years. Could they return to their glory days idk.



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Matteo Messina Denaro was allegedly also working on an action plan. Sicilian and Calabrian pentiti have begun to reveal the secrets of the pancriminal system desired by the leaders of the two mafias, on which the Prosecutors of Caltanissetta, Palermo and Reggio Calabria have been investigating for years.
It even had/has a name "Cosa Unica".


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We will probably learn a lot more this year!


Matteo Messina's arrest 'earthquake' for mafia, but Cosa Nostra still strong, according to Italian prosecutors

https://www.voxnews.al/english/koso...per-mafian-por-cosa-nostra-ende-e-i30257


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Re: Who's currently running Cosa Nostra? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1049776
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Settimio Mineo tried to form a new Commission but was arrested before can do it.


They’ve tried to constitute the Cupola four times, and each time the carabinieri finds out. The last known one was in 2018, but authorities intercepted the provincial bosses’ telecommunications, and suspected a gathering when their phones simultaneously went offline for several hours. Breaking up the Cupola, the carabinieri arrested 46 attendees, including the newly elected would-be overboss, the 80-year-old Settimo Mineo.


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I think all of that talk about the police preventing another Cupola is just for headlines. It sounds good for crime-fighting purposes, but in reality there's really not much they can do to prevent them from having some sort of Commission to oversee important matters.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
The Inzerillo's have become a force again in recent years. Could they return to their glory days idk.




the son of Stefano Bontade (Francesco Paolo) was filmed by the police in various meetings with mafia figures, he was sentenced to 11 years for international drug trafficking and released in 2015

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Interesting the aristocratic mafia class in Palermo could make a comeback.

Relatives of Rosario Riccobono have also popped up recently.

Riccobono and eight of his men vanished without trace at the end of November 1982. The men were separated off from each other at a dinner at Michele Greco’s estate and strangled one by one by their table companions.[5] Riccobono was just taking his after-dinner nap. Three of his associates were gunned down a few days later and his brother, Vito Riccobono, was found decapitated in his car. Within a few days Riccobono’s entourage was eliminated.[4] One of the few who survived was Riccobono’s erstwhile driver Salvatore Lo Piccolo, who rose to power twenty years later.[6]


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Very interesting news in court today, but it does make sense.

“Immediately after the death of Totò Riina – said Giuseppe Lombardo – the command of Cosa nostra was taken by Leoluca Bagarella, who continued in the same direction imposed at the time by his brother-in-law.”


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Very interesting news in court today, but it does make sense.

“Immediately after the death of Totò Riina – said Giuseppe Lombardo – the command of Cosa nostra was taken by Leoluca Bagarella, who continued in the same direction imposed at the time by his brother-in-law.”



So Cosa Nostra is still led by Corleone.



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Originally Posted by Hollander
Very interesting news in court today, but it does make sense.

“Immediately after the death of Totò Riina – said Giuseppe Lombardo – the command of Cosa nostra was taken by Leoluca Bagarella, who continued in the same direction imposed at the time by his brother-in-law.”

i think Lombardo meant "immediately after the arrest of Totò Riina" Bagarella took over the command in the 1993-1995 period

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would settimo mineo not still be considered head of cupola? i think he was just released also.

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