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Re: Lucchese crime family Working with Chicago Outfit
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01/16/23 10:14 AM
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Re: Lucchese crime family Working with Chicago Outfit
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01/16/23 09:42 PM
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indictments being a part of my argument. "IF" any activity existed between the outfit and the ny families would it not have come to light by now? since 1931 until now there would have been something come up no? with all the cooperating members out of ny in just the past 20 years nothing. even just since the cooperation of a made member of the lucchese family john pennisi. a guy who was on the street when the lucchese family shook up its admin in 2017 and dellorusso is alleged to have become underboss...nothing.
outside of indictments the main thesis of his article was that this alliance was made while dellorusso and sarno or dellorusso and delaurentis never specifies who, were imprisoned together. but gives absolutely no proof that any combination of these 3 men were ever incarcerated together in the same prison. when dellorusso,sarno and delaurentis went away they all held the rank of soldier in there respective families. dellorusso still held rank of soldier in 2004. i have no idea when or if he became a capo. sarno i dont believe ever attained a rank in chicago higher than soldier despite all claims to the otherwise. sarno ran and was indicted,convicted and sentenced as being the leader of a street crew in chicago. he was not indicted as the BOSS of the outfit,street boss,underboss,capo whatever. law enforcement would have been singing from the rooftops if they had taken down THE BOSS of the outfit. no mention in sarnos indictment about a alliance with the lucchese or dellorusso. so there is a possibility that this alliance was not in place between 2004-2008. i would think if it was and there was even tacit proof it would have been mentioned and become internet mafia gossip along time ago.
so i suppose then this pact was made between dellorusso and delaurentis? is there a picture of the 2 of them in the can? -is there any evidence at all of the cicero crew of the outfit ever having dealings with the lucchese vario crew? -delaurentis has been described as a respected member of the outfit. he was imprisoned in 1993 sentenced to 18.5 years. he served 13 years never saying a word. i cant believe that delaurentis would have risked his freedom by even being seen with at the time a member from a crime family that in the time period 1999-2004 was riddled with indictments and rats. of all the times in the outfits history it would pick that period to make an alliance with the 4th ranked family out of new york just makes no sense. -and for what? what is to gain by the outfit for such an alliance currently with the lucchese? again this is not mentioned in the article. the outfit needs help from the lucchese to collect debts and run its sportsbook? -and what is this mention of a couple of irish guys???
finally delaurentis did not replace sarno as boss/acting boss because sarno was not the BOSS or acting boss. i finish on this...does this sentence make sense at all with how the chicago outfit operates..."OUTFIT BOSS ARRESTED WITH MEMBER OF OUTLAWS MC"??? when has this ever happened to another BOSS. accardo,aiuppa,cerone,carlisi,difronzo take yer pick. NO BOSS/#1 OF THE OUTFIT would be regularly meeting and committing crimes with a full patch member of the outlaws mc. a chapter president well maybe but not just a full patch.
and where is the logic in just believing any of these articles recently published and not questioning some of it? burnstein has put out alot in last couple days and we r just supposed to nod and say oh yeah right again man. no sources,no pics,no documents,no indictments,no cooperating witness,no confirmation from other reliable sources. un named sources is all we get. so pardon my questioning of all that i've posted on but for many reasons they have no basis in reality and some sound made up to get subscribers.
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Re: Lucchese crime family Working with Chicago Outfit
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01/17/23 01:17 AM
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and where is the logic in just believing any of these articles recently published and not questioning some of it? burnstein has put out alot in last couple days and we r just supposed to nod and say oh yeah right again man. no sources,no pics,no documents,no indictments,no cooperating witness,no confirmation from other reliable sources. un named sources is all we get. so pardon my questioning of all that i've posted on but for many reasons they have no basis in reality and some sound made up to get subscribers.
That's what I've been saying. He loves sprinkling in a few details here and there to give his articles some meat. As I said the other day there's a reason he's the only one writing these things anywhere. - Sure there's a little something left in Kansas but do I believe Philly is there working hand in hand? No - Is it possible the outift has made some guys in the last 20 years of course but did they double or triple in size from the 28 members? No way It's a miracle gangstereport has all of a sudden received all these juice exclusive stories just as they added a paywall. I know Scott Burnstein is Jewish but he must have some Irish guys behind him to get this lucky
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Re: Lucchese crime family Working with Chicago Outfit
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01/17/23 10:29 PM
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The Tie That Binds Goes Through Cicero: Business Between Chicago and NY’s Lucchese Mob Run By Jimmy I, Sally Cards
January 18, 2023 — The Chicago Outfit-Lucchese crime family connection is centered out of Cicero, per sources. Outfit underboss James (Jimmy I) Inendino is Lucchese underboss Patrick (Patty Red) Dellorusso’s point of contact in the Windy City for the Lucchese’s Midwest sports book and myriad of white-collar rackets Dellorusso shares with mob bosses in Chi-Town, these sources say.
Dellorusso recently met with Salvatore (Sally Cards) Cataudella, Jimmy I’s acting underboss when he is indisposed, in Florida to talk shop, one of these sources claims. A small crew of mob associates from Chicago look after Patty Red’s interests in the Midwest, but Patty Red himself doesn’t come to town much and if he needs to get word to Jimmy I or Sally Cards, he uses his people in Illinois or meets them in Florida, sources allege.
In the 1990s and 2000s, Dellorusso did prison time with Inendino, reputed Chicago mafia don Salvatore (Solly D) DeLaurentis and jailed former Outfit acting boss Michael (Fat Mike) Sarno and developed deep ties to the mobbed-up Chicago labor unions in the 1980s when he oversaw air-freight shakedowns and hijackings at New York airports on behalf of the Luccheses. The 61-year old New York underboss is barred from membership or affiliation with the Teamsters union after his 1993 bust for labor racketeering.
According to sources, DeLaurentis green-lit the business relationship between the Outfit and Dellorusso, who is alleged to have been upped to the Lucchese’s No. 2 slot in 2017 in a bloodless coup, upon his grabbing the reins of the Chicago mob more than a decade ago. DeLaurentis, 83, does very little heavy lifting leadership wise, instead deferring day-to-day duties to Jimmy I and his street boss and Grane Avenue skipper Albie (The Falcon) Vena, according to sources on both sides of the law.
Patty Red’s main men in Chicago, reportedly an Irish guy named “Patrick” and an Italian guy named “Joe,” touch base with Inendino once a month at a string of currency exchanges he can be seen visiting throughout an average day, per sources. Dellorusso visited Chicago in the Christmas 2021 season and huddled with Inendino and other Outfit heavies in the backroom of a swanky Rush Street restaurant. Cataudella’s crew of younger Cicero goodfellas’ liaise with Patty Red’s guys if any day-to-day troubleshooting is needed on the Outfit’s side of the relationship.
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