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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: BensonHURST] #1047842
01/10/23 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by Lenox
Its because LCN is much more structured and they are the only group that can infiltrate unions and entire industries. Imagine a blood or crip trying to control a pension fund???? Lol



I agree with your point Lenox, the point I am trying to make is a little different.

You have posters on here that think it’s not happening.

I am not talking about street gangs:

Gambling in China, by Chinese OC brings hundreds of millions of dollarsp
If you look at some of the crack downs in China by the Govt

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-1...-of-cross-border-gambling-101617760.html

$150 Billion

Chinese don’t gamble
Not in America



I agree. There is an obvious bias against Italians. As far as I remember, the Italians never rioted and destroyed communities. Only one group does that.

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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: Lenox] #1047843
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Originally Posted by Lenox
Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by Lenox
Its because LCN is much more structured and they are the only group that can infiltrate unions and entire industries. Imagine a blood or crip trying to control a pension fund???? Lol



I agree with your point Lenox, the point I am trying to make is a little different.

You have posters on here that think it’s not happening.

I am not talking about street gangs:

Gambling in China, by Chinese OC brings hundreds of millions of dollarsp
If you look at some of the crack downs in China by the Govt

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-1...-of-cross-border-gambling-101617760.html

$150 Billion

Chinese don’t gamble
Not in America



I agree. There is an obvious bias against Italians. As far as I remember, the Italians never rioted and destroyed communities. Only one group does that.


It’s because the Italians were always smart enough to make a profit and not allow the government to steal it.

Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: BensonHURST] #1047845
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by Mafia101
Busts against other ethnicities happen all the time. Why don't you show the evidence Italians are targeted more often by L.E than others.


It is always difficult to prove a negative.

The only to prove it is to look and see what if any indictments have been brought against these other ethnic groups, that have known O.C. groups I.E. Chinese, Greeks and Russian.

So if you google the term Chinese gambling busts you will see you get some really big hits in China and in other countries.

Then google Chinese gambling busts in America, and you get NOTHING REALLY.

So as I said gambling exists across almost all nationalities however, in America it is really only illegal for Italians.

Most people on here know this already.



The only people who believe what you're saying are people who sympathize with the mafia. I don't think you sharing a couple links proves anything at all. Here's a 2022 Asian gambling bust in the US. I guess I just proved that other ethnicities are targeted by law enforcement.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/p...dictments-alleging-gambling-dens-bribery

Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: Mafia101] #1047847
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Originally Posted by Mafia101
Busts against other ethnicities happen all the time. Why don't you show the evidence Italians are targeted more often by L.E than others.



Can you show us thee busts against other ethnicities, such as Egyptians or other Arabs who run gambling places in New York and elsewhere? Same for Asians, Greeks, or others. There are dice games called Barbiuit or a similar spelling, Arabs and Greeks are big into them. Counterfeit goods and smuggling are big, show us the busts of other groups in these.

Do you live in the United States? If you are in a major city and unaware of this, that makes you clueless.

Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: Mafia101] #1047848
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One Asian bust for every 15 ones of Italians.
Originally Posted by Mafia101
Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Originally Posted by Mafia101
Busts against other ethnicities happen all the time. Why don't you show the evidence Italians are targeted more often by L.E than others.


It is always difficult to prove a negative.

The only to prove it is to look and see what if any indictments have been brought against these other ethnic groups, that have known O.C. groups I.E. Chinese, Greeks and Russian.

So if you google the term Chinese gambling busts you will see you get some really big hits in China and in other countries.

Then google Chinese gambling busts in America, and you get NOTHING REALLY.

So as I said gambling exists across almost all nationalities however, in America it is really only illegal for Italians.

Most people on here know this already.



The only people who believe what you're saying are people who sympathize with the mafia. I don't think you sharing a couple links proves anything at all. Here's a 2022 Asian gambling bust in the US. I guess I just proved that other ethnicities are targeted by law enforcement.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/p...dictments-alleging-gambling-dens-bribery



About one Asian bust for every 15 ones of Italians. Took you a while to find that one. Admit when you are wrong.

Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: Hollander] #1047851
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You were only able to find one?

Across the whole USA?

Your post actually proves my point.

I did not have a chance to read the whole article I glanced at it.

I did NOT see any R.I.C.O. Charges.

Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: Hollander] #1047857
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How does my post prove your point? How do you know how long it took me to find it? How am I wrong?

You said other ethnicities don't get busted for gambling in the US and I go and search gambling busts and the first result that came up is a mid 2022 Asian bust. I'm not scouring the entire internet for these indictments. They do happen, you just want to bitch and moan about mobsters being arrested because you're fanboys.

You didn't see a RICO charge? When did that become a requirement? You said gambling busts. Its hilarious when people try moving the goal posts when they get proven wrong. Don't be one of those people.

I'll go a put together a list of non Italian gambling busts like you guys asked after you guys prove law enforcement specifically target Italians more than other ethnicities as you claim like I asked the other day.

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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: Mafia101] #1047858
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Originally Posted by Mafia101
How does my post prove your point? How do you know how long it took me to find it? How am I wrong?

You said other ethnicities don't get busted for gambling in the US and I go and search gambling busts and the first result that came up is a mid 2022 Asian bust. I'm not scouring the entire internet for these indictments. They do happen, you just want to bitch and moan about mobsters being arrested because you're fanboys.

You didn't see a RICO charge? When did that become a requirement? You said gambling busts. Its hilarious when people try moving the goal posts when they get proven wrong. Don't be one of those people.

I'll go a put together a list of non Italian gambling busts like you guys asked after you guys prove law enforcement specifically target Italians more than other ethnicities as you claim like I asked the other day.



So you can't do it, that's why you say "Prove a bias." The bias is that overwhelmingly it is Italians busted. Now you are clearly here to play games.

Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: Hollander] #1047859
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I'm here simply asking you to prove what you're so certain is happening.

I can go and put together a list but why do I have to when you or the other guy won't even try to prove what you're claiming.

I asked first and the reply I got was no you prove it and since I won't that makes me wrong and you right apparently. You guys are something else lol

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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: Hollander] #1048292
01/15/23 03:37 AM
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The proof is all the indictments vs. Italians; I could not possibly post them all, there are just too many over the past 5 years. Furthermore there is no need to as almost all on here know this to be a FACT.

The proof is what I posted that there was an outdoor casino in China town and the operators received tickets.

The first thing that I said was that if you added up all indictments against Italians Vs. other nationalities named below combined, in the past 5 years what you will see is that the FBI is PREJUDICED against Italians.

Meaning they charge them more often and the charges are more serious.

1) Chinese
2) Russian
3) Greek

BREAKDOWN ----> (SO IF I AM ASKING YOU TO ADD UP INDICTMENTS AGAINST OTHER NATIONALITIES I AM SAYING THEY DO GET INDICTED)

I also, said that gambling is only illegal for Italians.

BREAKDOWN ------> (THAT IS AN EXAGGERATION; I AM FULLY AWARE THAT ON THE LAW BOOKS IT DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT GAMBLING IS ONLY ILLEGAL FOR ITALIANS).


BREAKDOWN ------> (PREJUDICED AGAINST ITALIANS= MEANING THE FBI/L.E. WILL INDICT ITALIANS MORE OFTEN THAN OTHER NATIONALITIES AND WHEN THEY ARE CHARGED THEY WILL BE CHARGED WITH MORE SERIOUS CHARGES).

I than posted two articles the first was to prove the point that when other nationalities are charged they are given a slap on the wrist. That article was about the outdoor casino'a and it stated that the operators received TICKETS.

The second article I posted was to show that gambling in China is HUGE, I posted about $150 Billion dollar gambling bust.
You do not see rings that big in America.

I posted that to show everyone that the Chinese gamble as much as Italians.

YOU than posted an article about Chinese being indicted in C.A. the crimes they committed were VERY SERIOUS, however, according to that article no R.I.C.O. charges were brought.

The indictment describes violence tied to the gambling dens, including a November 2020 shooting at one of the casinos that left an employee with a bullet wound to the neck.
“Illegal gambling locations create an increase in violent crime, adversely impact the quality of life of our communities, and cause disruption to our neighborhoods and our law-abiding business partners,” Santa Ana Police Chief David Valentin said in a statement.
A second indictment tied to the same multi-agency operation alleges that two men – Vincent Randal Pimental, 30, of Santa Ana and Steven Gallegos Saenz, 39, of Whittier – ran an extortion scheme targeting other small businesses that were also operating as illegal gambling operations. Claiming to be “mafia,” the two men demanded protection money from the business, prosecutors allege. When one business – a Santa Ana video rental shop – refused to pay, prosecutors allege that Pimental, Saenz and other men robbed it at gunpoint, stealing gambling machines, computer equipment and thousands of dollars in cash.
“The defendants flouted the law and used enforcers with rival gangs to get victims to comply through the use of intimidation and violence in order to further their illicit network and generate profits,” Kristi Johnson, the Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI’s Los Angeles Field Office, said in a statement.
A third indictment alleges that two men and a woman – Ricardo Nunez, 44, of Anaheim, Marcus Loomis, 37, of Barstow and Vanessa Galloway, 37, of Barstow – took part in a drug deal involving methamphetamine at different illegal casino in Anaheim.

BREAKDOWN—-) CLEARLY THESE GUYS WERE INDICTED, AS I SAID THEY DO GET INDICTED, HOWEVER, IN THAT ARTICLE I DO NOT SEE ANY R.I.C.O. CHARGES BEING BROUGHT AGAINST THEM. R.I.C.O. CASES INVOLVE MORE JAIL-TIME AND ARE EASIER TO PROVE.

The article that you posted helps prove my point that even when they do get “KNOCKED” they do not get ‘KNOCKED AS HARD AS ITALIANS DO”

I believe and most on here agree if these crimes were committed in BENSONHURST BROOKLYN, by Italians that they would most likely almost definitely been hit with R.I.C.O. charges.

So your article helps prove the point that I have made that the FBI is PREJUDICED AGAINST ITALIANS.

BREAKDOWN ------> (FBI INDICTS ITALIANS MORE OFTEN AND WHEN THEY ARE INDICTED THE CHARGES ARE MORE SERIOUS THAN, CHINESE, RUSSIANS and GREEKS).
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The goal post seems pretty cemented.




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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: Hollander] #1048293
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Lmao... this whole thread is the Sopranos "Colombus Day" episode... with you guys fighting to be America's favorite victims.

Re: Lorenzo Mannino Targeted By FBI [Re: Hollander] #1048294
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Lol that "Colombus Day" episode is legendary.

Anyway, it's a given fact there's a ton of non-Italian gambling going on in NY/NJ but still the amount of LCN illegal gambling busts are disproportionate. You just have to look at the stats to see that. Chinese, Russians, Vietnamese, Albanians, Greeks, Koreans and Israelis - whether they're Jewish or Arab - all have plenty of illegal gambling going on in the area and they do get busted for this much less often.

There's lots of illegal gambling rings active in the Deep South, but the last Mississippi or Arkansas illegal gambling bust I can find is from 2021. Doesn't mean they're inactive, they're just not under a magnifying glass the way LCN is.

You think Armenians, Mexicans, Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Salvadorans, Koreans and Samoans don't have a truckload of illegal gambling going on in California? Or the Hmong in Minnesota? They all got lots going on. And they DO get busted - there were quite a lot of recent Asian and Hispanic illegal gambling busts in California - but the main difference here is that they all just take a quick plea deal, get a slap on the wrist and off they go.

A slap on the wrist is not what Mannino's going to get.

The only community that gets busted more frequently than Italian-Americans for operating an illegal gambling ring seem to be Native Hawaiians on the island - every year there are like more than 30 gambling raids over there. And that's largely because gambling as a whole is illegal in Hawaii.

And it's a guarantee that in the past few years in any of these communities there's someone who's gotten his kneecap smashed or someone that lost a finger because he couldn't get out of some debt. They all get into loansharking...not just the Italians.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that - at least in a first world country - no other criminal organization has ever been as infiltrative or as economically powerful as the American Mafia was in their prime. The feds are gonna do everything in their power to make sure it will never again be the way it was. So every time an Italian surname is brought into connection with something illegal going on, they're gonna have Nam flashbacks.

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Serbian-American Gangster & Ex-Union Leader Tied Together Forever By A Wired-Up 'Plumbing Contractor' From Long Island

Mileta (Michael Michael) Miljanic, the leader of a Serbian-American gang who allegedly partnered on construction schemes with the Gambino crime family has pleaded guilty to fraud and tax evasion charges that could cost him $800,000 and three years behind bars, Gang Land has learned.

The guilty plea by Miljanic, the chieftain of an organized crime outfit known as Grupo Amerika, comes almost two and half years after federal prosecutors publicly named Michael Michael as a partner of the Gambino crime family in a New York construction industry racket.

The plea deal does not prevent the feds from charging Miljanic with additional crimes linked to allegations that his business was a "shell company" used by the Gambinos to wash millions of dollars. But Michael Michael seems to be betting that those allegations — and words in a 2020 taped talk in which ex-union leader James Cahill called him a partner-in-crime of Gambino capo Louis (Bo) Filippelli — are just empty words without any hard evidence to back them up.

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