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Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 [Re: CleanBandit] #1037242
07/15/22 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CleanBandit
I may be wrong, but the difference is that Mafia had done a LOT more than sports books and lending out money. Mafia infiltrated hundreds of businesses across the US and had a stronghold in unions, casinos, etc, which gave the Federal Government a hard-on for them. I mean, the RICO was created for the mafia specifically.

That being said, when you look at other races (African American specifically), while I agree things are getting a bit out of hand with criminals asking for a free pass based on race alone, you can't deny they've had to endure some hardships. I've never heard of an Italian, Irish, or Greek teenager being shot for walking in a certain neighborhood or being choked to death on the street, beaten to death on the street, or having the cops bust into their apartment and shoot at them for basically no reason. So it's not like other races are just walking around doing whatever they want, and nothing is being done about it.

Stanley "Tookie" Williams got a lethal injection for killing 4 people during 2 robberies; as Furio had mentioned, Larry Hoover has been in jail since 1973. Mexican Mafia member Rene Enriquez gave the DOC and FBI a TON of information on the way MM operates. He had been a crucial part for years in fighting against MM, and he's being denied parole every time he goes in front of a parole board. On the other hand, Sammy Gravano got to move to Arizona and involve his family in a drug ring after being directly involved in 19 murders.

Again, I think because of the Mafia's influence in the USA's history (which is unlike any other organization in the history of the US), the FBI is always going to treat them differently than other criminals, to an extent. It also depends on the crime they get busted for.


In response to your second paragraph: the USA is currently at a level of propaganda not seen since Hitler. You have to live here to even be able to see the truth. It's sickening. I'm not into politics, but the simple truth is that about 85% of the mainstream media is the propaganda arm of the Democrat party. Fascism and radicalism control the media and the narrative in this country.

I basically agree with the rest of your post.

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Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 [Re: NYMafia] #1037245
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Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 [Re: jace] #1037249
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Yup. This shit happens everyday, all across the country. Amazing how the story is from a foreign paper, huh?

Highly unlike it will be publicized by US main stream (left wing) media. And even if they're caught the charge will be reduced or dropped.

Safe to say we're way off topic now.

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 [Re: NYMafia] #1037250
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Luan, I'm pretty sure that you were raised better than to take jabs at someone for stating an opinion (not a fact, but an opinion which started with "I may be wrong").

That being said, other respectful posters have pointed out cases that proved my opinion is not fully correct. Not entirely sure why we have to stoop down to being disrespectful immediately; I didn't personally attack anyone on the board nor did I say anything extraordinarily disrespectful in general.

But yeah, alicecooper I agree, way, way off topic which is why I'll pull back from this thread entirely.

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 [Re: NYMafia] #1037266
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Guys, why don't you both just take a big step back and chill out. WTF? Who cares about this baby bullshit argument.

Why don't you stay on the subject matter of this thread. Be more respectful of your fellow posters on this forum.

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 [Re: alicecooper] #1037304
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Originally Posted by alicecooper
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I'd bet the house that it will be just as hard for the victims families to get that money from the feds....Guaranteed


Even worse, they'll probably go into their own pockets trying to get it and end up racking up expenses and still get nothing.


You're right !!!

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 [Re: Big_Tuna93] #1037305
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Originally Posted by Big_Tuna93
Hell, Vic Orena has alzheimers so badly, he allegedly thought at one point he was the POTUS. And the feds still won't let him out. At some point, these guys pose no threat, and should be allowed to at least be cared for by their families in their final days.


And that's not a Junior Soprano move....A friend of mine's m.i.l. years back had alzheimers and she thought the governor was delivering her mail to her

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 [Re: NYMafia] #1037390
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I wonder if the only reason they can do this to him is because he is still in prison?
When you are in prison you don’t have rights under the constitution of the USA, you are a ward of the state/fed govt.

I know plenty of people that had to pay restitution and out of all of them just ONE ever paid all of it back.
When he got out was making big money and because of the restitution order he took his income under his wife’s name and the feds came in and said either you the $3MM you owe or we are going to indict your wife and within a few years he paid in full.

Everyone else would send ina few dollars here and there and that’s it.


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Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 [Re: BensonHURST] #1037471
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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
I wonder if the only reason they can do this to him is because he is still in prison?
When you are in prison you don’t have rights under the constitution of the USA, you are a ward of the state/fed govt.

I know plenty of people that had to pay restitution and out of all of them just ONE ever paid all of it back.
When he got out was making big money and because of the restitution order he took his income under his wife’s name and the feds came in and said either you the $3MM you owe or we are going to indict your wife and within a few years he paid in full.

Everyone else would send ina few dollars here and there and that’s it.



That's a very good question. Maybe there are special rules because it's a lawsuit judgement that makes it easier for the owed party to attach the judgment to the money?

I've always heard that suing for small money was pointless because it was basically a full time job trying to legally collect the money. Between him being in prison and that it's attached to a criminal case, I bet that's a part of it somehow.

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