Michael and Tom at the Desert Inn - Extracts:
Why would Michael think, expect Tom to know the whereabouts of Fredo and how to contact Fredo

Wasn't Tom in charge of the family at that time? It was international news what happened in Cuba, so Tom probably had everyone trying to figure out what happened to Mike and Fredo. That's all I have for you.

I started a thread that touches on this subject a long while ago:


http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=472494&Searchpage=1&Main=16944&Words=%2BFredo+%2BRoth+%2Bconspiracy&Search=true#Post472494

Short answer: Fredo told Tom everything and Michael guessed it. Don Cardi, one of our esteemed members, even created a plausible dialog between Tom and Fredo.

Fredo/Roth conspiracy
Thanks Turnbull I remember this thread from the old days!

Michael & Roth's casinos
As we discussed, we are none the wiser as to how Fredo, last sighted walking in a daze amongst the rebel uprising chaos, got out of Havana let alone how Fredo would know that Roth had a stroke, was brought out of Havana on a private boat and is in a Miami hospital

Thanks blueracing347 Oops! missed it....

Tom either panic mode or elation - Don Hagen!

Let's go through this step by step:
1. Fredo's fatal gaffe at the Superman show told Michael that Fredo was the traitor, in cahoots with Roth and Ola.
2. Michael, from his car, shouted at Fredo, stumbling through the street, "It's [his plane] the only way out of here tonight." But, we see a bunch of gringos running for their boats at the marina.
3. When Tom meets with Michael in Vegas, he tells Michael that Roth had a stroke, recovered, got out in a boat, bodyguard's dead. Michael asks about Fredo, Tom says he's in NY.
4. How did Tom know that Fredo was in NY? Fredo called him--and told him about Roth and the bodyguard. How did Fredo know about Roth and the bodyguard--and how did he get out of Havana and then to NY? Because he was on the boat with Roth.
5. Michael figures that out right away. That's why he tells Tom, "Get word to Fredo, tell him I know Roth misled him..."

No doubt Tom's wealth of information came from Fredo

How would Fredo, last sighted walking in a daze amongst the rebel uprising chaos even connect with Roth's people
1. If he did come with them how did they find him in all that chaos?
2. Who would know their relationship Roth in a coma was in no position to tell anyone anything
3. Why would they even bother looking for him, needle in a haystack scenario, their priority would have been sick Roth and getting out

Gotta give the director some license, Evita.

Maybe so We all know Coppola's fanatical attention to details that he would leave out and not even give an indication of how he was on the boat with Roth is not in accordance

What does that tell you? We can win!

Nobody bothered because everyone know he was with Michael and expect the brothers to get out together

I think Geary is a candidate for getting Fredo out. We see him entering the embassy. Americans without their own passage would head to the embassy. At that point, Geary would think that he was doing Michael a favor by helping Fredo.

Don't know Pete Fredo had already left before Batista's resignation and Geary would not have known Michael had figured out he was the traitor So why would he think that he was doing Michael a favor by helping Fredo even if he found him amongst the rebel uprising chaos

Geary and the other big shots were rushing to the US Embassy, trying to pass through the gate, everyone for himself

Perhaps as Vito said! “Every man has but one destiny"

The below were before the above Yet....Michael identified himself thus cementing his bullseye target
Women are indeed more dangerous than shotguns!