You sound crazy, and very wrong.

Back on topic there are so many....


12 year old Giuseppe Di Matteo is always one of the first I think of

also I advise everyone to ignore Jace "The CNN of mafia bullshitters"

he might be correct 2% of the time which is less than a broken clock

Some of Sicilian Mafia kill anyone, kids, politicians, anyone. The American Mafia, with a rare exception, does not.

Since Jace requested proof here it is in his own sick words

there are levels to ratting imo but I agree a rat is a rat

but by your logic youd be OK with the two rats on this forum being whacked?

I dont agree there

so odd you arent raging this exact statement in another current thread tho

You're are nothing but a sad little clown and a born rodent...Period! And now I gotta put you on my "pay no mind list" where you rightfully belong.

Look at you calling people a rodent when you and your partner are nothing but fucking rats....go back to your sewer you fucking rat, you and your partner have been exposed for the rats you are,
I think and others think your secretly Jeff Lowman, so on that note go write another letter to a judge....

After repeatedly watching the infantile and insulting and "way off base" accusations you and your girlfriend post up daily toward so many forum members here I now understand all I need to about you and that other imbecile. I also have a real good idea of who and what you are, and where you emanate from. No more need be said. You two, and your other little clown buddies "reek" of desperation!

PS: I will NOT respond to any more of your babyish scribblings. I strongly suggest that other "sane" forum members subscribe to the same tactic regarding you two clowns.

I see that my words really "struck an angry cord" with you "my little would-be tough guy?" Or should I say "our little kumquat?" Lol, I thought it would.

You and your little girlfriend (in fact, both handles are really only you) is the last person in this world that anyone on this forum needs to "prove" anything to.

You are a constant insulting thorn in the side of many members here; Friend of Henry, Jace, Mamaluke, Dilly Dolly, Mafia Student, and at least a dozen others who are forced to tolerate your daily unsolicited insults and abuse. I think that it's high time that you stop it.

It may not mean much to a heathen like you, but as I posted days ago it is the "Christmas Season" and clearly unlike you and your girlfriend most of us here have productive and fulfilling lives. We don't need to hear the constant garbage you spew.

So Stop It Now! If not, I suspect that you will eventually meet your permanent Waterloo here on this forum.

I love how you always say that, but never follow through. You have so many tells little man. To be honest with you, I'm amazed you're still allowed to post here

I really dont understand the vitriol on this site. I see a few posters like NYMafia that post alot of good, interesting content here. I assume we are all here because we share an interest in gangster/mafia history and current events. Yet there seem to be a small group of very angry, insulting posters who attack people, they particularly attack NYMafia, with alot of really uncalled for hatred.

Its bizarre. Most times I dont know exactly what I am witnessing here. If you hate the guy that much, ignore him. Why should it bother YOU if he has opinions and outlooks that you dont agree with? And why would you put that much energy into verbally attacking an anonymous guy on a small website like this?

Sometimes you have to take an honest look at what the hell youre doing and admit there is something wrong with the behavior.

Lou, you made your point, now stop. NYmafia, if I was a judge and you were in my courtroom, I would order you to psychiatric treatment. For now all parties stop. This is spilling in every thread which is ridiculous. At this point, if Geoff wants to shut OCRL down, I'll go along with it and that will be that.

I agree with this also. Good post.

There is no civility with you,

Louiebynochi quotes:
"Jace does your husband or man speak to you that way?"
"Your a bi polar whore, who should only be allowed to open its mouth when cock is being placed in it or your asking “whites or colors first daddy”


You are a disgrace to this site, and you want me banned?? You talking civility is a joke.

i dont know if its been posted it before but but Anthony Casso besides ordeing wrong niky guido,, he also send Lastotino to kill the young man that help him with his masnsion Favara,,,, coincdend that also this person carries same last name as john favara who ran over frnaki gotti

. Yup these have been posted and are very sad cases

Oh boy, everyone is in such a tear-jerking snowflakey mindstate, mob life isn't all unicorns and rainbows you know. I'm sure lots of innocents die in wars that are based on lies propagated to us by a controlled mainstream media as well.

Not me. They are hard men that play hard games. Some are there for the money. Some are there for the violence. A small few will do what it takes to live outside the law.
None of them admirable, but most of them very interesting even if you wouldn’t want your daughter near one

So true.

I came across this channel not too long ago. He goes around infamous mob locations and discusses the history behind it. Besides mispronouncing some names he dies a fairly good job. This particular video he takes the route of the infamous chase between Roy and Dominic Ragucci during the Cuban Crisis of 79. I knew it was a long chase but seeing the whole route is crazy. I can’t even imagine the fear going through Ragucci’s mind. Just a sad a terrifying incident

Thought I’d revitalize this topic to see if anyone had newer perspectives or other examples they would like to share. Interested to hear your thoughts!!

The small kid that was accidentally killed by Mad Dog Coll and his crew during a shootout and also the neighborhood doctor from the St Valentine's Day massacre.

. Very good examples

Thanks. Also we must define the term "civilian" because I see some people still believe that Chicago's Daniel Seifert was allegedly an honest businessman. The reality is that he wasnt but instead, he was an official Outfit associate of the Grand Avenue crew, meaning he was connected and paid the price for it.

We also have another type of so-called "civilians" like Estelle Carey. She was the girlfriend of a made member and so she possibly hung around most of the dangerous fellas, meaning she was also "playing with fire" and in the end she also paid the ultimate price. The same thing happened to the doctor from the St. Valentine's Day massacre, meaning he was hanging around with gangsters who at the same time were involved in the most brutal conflict, meaning he was also asking for it.

There are also another type of "civilians" who worked legally but were naïve and didnt understand that their coworkers were in fact associated with the Outfit. Such example was the 1976 murder of Rita Payonk. Sources say that she began realizing that some of her colleagues were making shady deals and so she had to be eliminated. In the end, the investigators connected Payonk’s murder to the narcotics business since some of the employees were involved in the scheme. You can read about that particular case in the Mobile Catering Business article which can be found at the Button Guys site.

. Sure absolutely there are definitely those who are kind of associated with them although we’ve also seen from examples people in this thread that there are also a good amount who has nothing to do with the life who got killed.

Yes, I completely agree.