One of the biggest myths about the mafia is that they only kill their own which obviously isn’t true. There have been many cases where civilians became mob victims. Obviously popular ones like Nicky Guido, John Favara, and Dominick Ragucci. Also there are many others that not as well known but were sad and brutal. They’re all sad stories. Personally I always felt the Ragucci killing was the craziest and saddest story. A Young kid trying to pay himself through college just happened to stop at the wrong house at the wrong time. Then is chased through Long Island by two guys with guns. I can’t imagine the fear going through him while the chase was going on and especially when his car crashed. Just a sad story. Interested in hearing your thoughts/examples!

Giuseppe Di Matteo son Santino was kidnapped in 1993 for send a messagge to his father to stop cooperating on the Capaci massacre. Santino tried to find thevson but end continue to cooperate and the boy was killed after 25 month strangled by Brusca and the body dissolved in the acid.

Silvia Ruotolo was murdered on 11 June 1997 in Naples, while returning to her house after going to pick up her 5-year-old son Francesco from school. Watching her from the balcony was Alessandra, her 10-year-old daughter.

The Camorra commando who shot had Salvatore Raimondi as its target, affiliated with the Cimmino clan, an opponent of the Alfano clan. Forty bullets were fired which, in addition to killing Salvatore Raimondi and wounding Luigi Filippini, reached Silvia Ruotolo - who was in the street with her son - to the temple, killing her instantly.

Also that one when Camorra killed innocent kid , someone was stealing from construction sites in Naples , contractor knew who was doing it and the deal was he had to stand in front of building and wait for him to shake his hand , thats how killers would know who is it , idiot shook hand of innocent kid and they started shooting killing the kid on the spot. I can't remember his name.

1986 - Claudio Domino 10 years old - shot with single bullet in the head.

2014 - Nicola "Coco" Campolongo 3 year old killed by 'Ndrangheta

Yeah the Camorra is very brutal

1952 - Arnold Schuster was killed on orders by Albert Anastasia (allegedly)

Veronica Zuraw, a Nun that was shotgunned to death by the Colombo Family in 1982......

Alan Kaiser a 16 year old kid who was shotgunned to death by Sammy the Bull in 1977....

William Aranowld Father of a Judge who was also going to be innocently murdered was mistaken for the son and murdered in 1987 by the Colombo Family


Ralph Dols NYC Housing Cop who was murdered for marrying the ex-wife of Colombo Consigliere Joe Waverly in 1997.....

Matteo Speranza - killed in the bagel store during Colombo war. Absolutely awful.

Albert Gelb - court officer killed after he stepped in to help a woman being harassed by Charles Carneglia and guys in Gotti crew at a diner. They ended up tracking him down and killing him down the road.

Norman DuPont went away for killing a totally innocent person after getting drunk off his ass celebrating a Gotti trial win.

There was that jeweler in Staten Island killed a decade ago or so.

The two carting guys in Long Island. Wouldn’t back down, got murdered.

William Luyrie - garment district related killing, again, encroaching into legitimate industry by any means necessary.

That’s 15 killings from the late 70s into the early 90s....looks like they regularly killed innocent people including women and children......oh and cops....they’re they go again upholding that oath...good thing they’re all “honorable” guys who will “never” rat....

Has that son ofa bitch ever spoke on that situation on his YouTube channel or podcast? He sure skipped that part in his book….🤨

1972 Sheldon Epstein and Max Tekelch killed by the Colombo Family

Guisippe Turano killed by the Bonnano Family in 1979.His 16 year old kid was critically injured in the shooting but survived......

No of course not, I even commented and asked if he would speak on it and included a link an article on the killing and my comment was deleted, the piece of shit doesn’t want that getting to the masses...

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...-sister-killed-brother-article-1.1025244

Neapolitan noodle shooting - accidentally shooting 4 people, killing 2, who were mistaken for members of Persico crew.


Carpenters Union member Danny evangelista killed for protesting the mob’s control over NYC carpenters unions.

Peter Panto, Brooklyn ila leader who stood up to the mob.

In 1982 in Italy, there was a camorra attack on the judge Alfonso Lamberti, but the triggermen missed and killed his 11-year-old daughter Simonetta who was with him in the car.

Arnold Schuster's murder wasn't sad, I feel no pity for a rat civilian or not, mind your own damn business unless you're reporting animal or child abuse.

Some other examples:

In 1919, in Kansas City, Paul Catanzaro shot and killed 11-year-old Frank Carramusa.
In 1948 in Corleone, Italy, mafia boss Michele Navarra poisoned 13-year-old Giuseppe Letizia who witnessed a murder committed on Navarra's orders, and was later brought to a hospital where Navarra worked as the chief doctor.
In 1961, in Palermo, 13-year-old Paolino Riccobono was shot and killed because of being related to some mafiosi involved in a local feud (his father and brother were already killed several year earlier).
In 1973, in Crotone (Calabria, Italy), Maria Giovanna Elia was killed by a stray bullet in a shootout between members of the Vrenna and Feudale 'ndrangheta families.
In 1986, Porto Empedocle (Sicily), Antonio Monreale and Filippo Gebbia were killed by stray bullets in an attack against members of the Grassonelli stidda clan (several stiddari were also killed in the attack).

Accidental killings of civilians are tragic, but you are all trying to run up the numbers by coming Italian and Americn Mafia killings, and including suspect ones, like Schuster, who may have been killed by others besides Albert A. The nun and the 2 innocents killed in Brooklyn were awful, the cop killing was wrong, but was that a mob killing or one wiseguy doing it on the sneak without approval? Favara was an asshole and may have deserved it.

"Alan Kaiser a 16 year old kid who was shotgunned to death by Sammy the Bull in 1977...."


Excuse me, but not a mob killing, he beat up Gravano and Gravano went after him on his own after, Gravano was not even made at the time.

Didn’t a Lucchess guys sister get shot while with him? Can’t remember if she died or not. It was when Vic n Gas were on the warpath

Pete Chiodo’s sister.

I believe his uncle got murdered too.

. Yes it was Pete Chiodo’s sister and thankfully she survived. Ironically Pete Chiodo was very loyal yet they tried to kill him anyway. Then they tried to murder his sister. Cant really blame him for turning. It really shows how cruel, treacherous, and dishonorable the mob life truly can be

“ Sammy Cards Cataudella was convicted in a RICO case in 1988 and might have been the target of a revenge slaying ordered by Zizzo loyalists that went awry less than three months after Zizzo went missing.

A “civilian” named Gerry Dhamer was slain in a professional hit, shot-gunned to death, in front of his home in November 2006 on the same street in suburban Park Ridge, Illinois Cataudella had once lived. Dhamer, 48, resided at 623 North Broadway, down the block from the Cataudella-owned property at 632 North Broadway, which was being lived in by his son and daughter-in-law at the time Dhamer was killed. Investigators strongly suspect Dhamer’s homicide was a result of mistaken identity and the assailant mixing up the addresses.”

I don't think Chiodo was so loyal, although it was way out of line going after his sister. Traditionally that is not done. But you are not here for a discussion, you're here to rant and preach.

. What I find hilarious is that nobody else thinks I’m “ranting and preaching” or that “I like rats”. It’s just your own insane posts that claim those things. I’ve been here for over 11 years and have a good reputation on this site and Never had an issue with anyone except yourself. Another funny thing is that I never seek you out you seek out my posts which continues to get creepier and creepier 😂 . We all have different opinions on here but you can’t accept that for some reason. That’s probably why you constantly have issues with so many posters in here

Yup. I totally forgot about the uncle

The police have killed about a 1000x more innocent civilians than all the mobsters that ever existed since the beginning of time. Give me a break.

Same for other crime groups. On this topic they are going back close to 40 years and spanning the globe to come up with about a dozen killings, while one year in some sites or countries sees that many innocents killed, occasionally on purpose.

The Nicky Guido thing was also heartbreaking. Just because he happened to have the same name and bad information. I think a similar thing happened with the Bath Ave crew. They were going to rob a safe from a house and it ended up being the wrong house which resulted in them killing a mother in front of her daughter

Cherie Golden age 19, who was killed by Anthony Senter and Joey Testa because of her relationship with John Quinn.

Honorable mentiom Mary Bari just because she was so pretty. Sure she was a Mob moll and might have been informing on Little Allie Boy, though there's no evidence, she didn't deserve to get her brains blown out.