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The Jersey Crew! #1007423
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Sam the Plumber, Big Frank, and Joe Buff, ran the show for decades overseeing their men and regimes in NJ, NYC, and CT.

Lets take a look...

https://thenewyorkmafia.com/2020/07/18/decavalcante-family-new-jersey/

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Sam the Plumber lived in Lawrenceville NJ and was also close with the Gambino and Philly guys in the area including Angelo Bruno’s cousins. Carlo Gambino had a real talent at making sure HIS people got into powerful positions in the smaller brugads.

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In Bensonhurst in the 90's Rudy Farone had a well known presence.

He was respected and feared.

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Meant to say this earlier to. He was also dealing with the Profacis who owned a ton of land in nearby Hightstown NJ. So was Angelo Bruno’s cousins.

https://www.newspapers.com/image/?c...6hfRdjuffj-YbTVPyDjpM_fghob2rdFiX_NYQsIY

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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
In Bensonhurst in the 90's Rudy Farone had a well known presence.

He was respected and feared.


Yes. Rudy was actually a 'Colombo associate' early in his career. he later swung to the Jersey crew, but also kept close relations with his former running buddies.

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Originally Posted by southshorekid
Meant to say this earlier to. He was also dealing with the Profacis who owned a ton of land in nearby Hightstown NJ. So was Angelo Bruno’s cousins.

https://www.newspapers.com/image/?c...6hfRdjuffj-YbTVPyDjpM_fghob2rdFiX_NYQsIY


Very interesting article. Thanks for that SSK

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Interesting article it looks like Profaci, arraigned marriages for his daughters and nieces etc.

Seems that Profaci, was trying to make sure the family survived for future generations.

I think his plans were KIE-BOSHED when essentially Magliocco and Bonnano were shelved.

His named successor and whole Borgata were stripped away and handed to Colombo.

Anyone know anything about the size of Salvatore's crew in N.J. was it big one with any sort of power in the family?

The other son John, I believe he was legit I know he did a lot of building in Staten Island in the 90's and 2000's his wife owns a large and successful real estate company in Staten island as well.

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Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Interesting article it looks like Profaci, arraigned marriages for his daughters and nieces etc.

Seems that Profaci, was trying to make sure the family survived for future generations.

I think his plans were KIE-BOSHED when essentially Magliocco and Bonnano were shelved.

His named successor and whole Borgata were stripped away and handed to Colombo.

Anyone know anything about the size of Salvatore's crew in N.J. was it big one with any sort of power in the family?

The other son John, I believe he was legit I know he did a lot of building in Staten Island in the 90's and 2000's his wife owns a large and successful real estate company in Staten island as well.




Connie right? Yeah as far as I know they are legit. I think they still live out in Monroe but do a lot in SI. If I remember correctly I think the only real controversy was when they were involved in selling the White House on Todt Hill. But that was it.

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I don’t know much about the Profacis. But between Colavita olive oil, Roma foods, and the SI/Central Jersey real estate it seems like they knew how to print money. I was thinking about something my grandfather once told me about Sam the Plumber and googled and found that article. Not for nothing though, that was the sixties and they were a few steps ahead with the real estate. South Brooklyn Italians moved to SI in the 80s and 90s. SI Italians have been moving to Central Jersey from the 90s through today. If you live in Bensonhurst you obviously know all that. But it’s a trip reading some people posting on here thinking Bay Ridge still looks like Saturday Night Fever haha. The mob tourists better learn Mandarin if they ever plan on visiting South Brooklyn.

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Originally Posted by southshorekid
I don’t know much about the Profacis. But between Colavita olive oil, Roma foods, and the SI/Central Jersey real estate it seems like they knew how to print money. I was thinking about something my grandfather once told me about Sam the Plumber and googled and found that article. Not for nothing though, that was the sixties and they were a few steps ahead with the real estate. South Brooklyn Italians moved to SI in the 80s and 90s. SI Italians have been moving to Central Jersey from the 90s through today. If you live in Bensonhurst you obviously know all that. But it’s a trip reading some people posting on here thinking Bay Ridge still looks like Saturday Night Fever haha. The mob tourists better learn Mandarin if they ever plan on visiting South Brooklyn.


Correct. Those neighborhoods held out a lot longer than others in NYC, but today they're shot. Another reason why the last holdouts left for S.I., NJ, etc.

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Joe Profaci was one of the wealthiest mob guys around. Bar none. Magliocco also.

Joe's Sal became a capo in NJ, with a crew of about 5-6 guys who resides there (good fellas). he had some others as associates as well. But he was a powerhouse of $$ and influence. Very respected guy because of who his dad was

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Originally Posted by southshorekid
I don’t know much about the Profacis. But between Colavita olive oil, Roma foods, and the SI/Central Jersey real estate it seems like they knew how to print money. I was thinking about something my grandfather once told me about Sam the Plumber and googled and found that article. Not for nothing though, that was the sixties and they were a few steps ahead with the real estate. South Brooklyn Italians moved to SI in the 80s and 90s. SI Italians have been moving to Central Jersey from the 90s through today. If you live in Bensonhurst you obviously know all that. But it’s a trip reading some people posting on here thinking Bay Ridge still looks like Saturday Night Fever haha. The mob tourists better learn Mandarin if they ever plan on visiting South Brooklyn.



The smart ones were able to invest in businesses back then without government interference, so Profaci fits in with those types. The same goes for Joe Bonanno and a few others.

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Sal was not Heavy. Nepotism, the "glory" of the mafia through words and his father's reputation. All of the gangster $ and "work" was done without his permission. In fact, no permission sought to kill Randazzo, as the crew knew the answer no. Suburban relic of a long time ago. Sucking the kneecaps of the West Side is not impressive. Sal Avena was screwed due to no one respecting - in my opinion - Sal Profaci.

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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Joe Profaci was one of the wealthiest mob guys around. Bar none. Magliocco also.

Joe's Sal became a capo in NJ, with a crew of about 5-6 guys who resides there (good fellas). he had some others as associates as well. But he was a powerhouse of $$ and influence. Very respected guy because of who his dad was


I read somewhere that Profaci had his own airport. Maybe that's not true, but it wouldn't surprise me

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Originally Posted by DetroitPartnership
Sal was not Heavy. Nepotism, the "glory" of the mafia through words and his father's reputation. All of the gangster $ and "work" was done without his permission. In fact, no permission sought to kill Randazzo, as the crew knew the answer no. Suburban relic of a long time ago. Sucking the kneecaps of the West Side is not impressive. Sal Avena was screwed due to no one respecting - in my opinion - Sal Profaci.


With all due respect, that very far off the mark as far as Sal J. Profaci goes.

He was a VERY respected guy. Not only in the NY/NJ region, but throughout the entire country because of the Profaci name (and his own capabilities as well)

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Respected his father. Sal Avena told to take a contractual deal buyout with SP as his deacon; he received one payment; West Side said Fuck You to him thereafter. SP did nothing! That's not respect. Do you think Ray Cagno respected SP? RC was doing heavy work for decades with the Campisis and winds up having to kick up to a guy living in a mansion that never did wet work. Come On!

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Joe Profaci had an airstrip for private planes. His hangar allowed two. There is a rare photo of Joe Profaci New Jersey home, that shows what looks to be a Jetstar outside his hangar. On the respect of Salvatore Profaci, he was still respected, but in most cases it came down between old and young upcoming members. Remember the 3rd Colombo war, many of the younger generation were gravitating towards Persico, and although Profaci was neutral, once it became known that he was in in favor of selecting a different boss for the family, Persico and his loyalists smeared Profaci name, and even demoted him. Even the West coast members were thinking of kidnapping Teddy Persico Jr awhile, until Carmine Persico reinstalled Salvatore Profaci as Capo.


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Brass Ring; really no street pull. Capo of what? 4 guys. Honestly, no one was consulting with Sal P on the streets of N.Y. - nor Newark for that matter. They talked to Tootie Lombardozzi and the Cagnos.

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Originally Posted by DetroitPartnership
Respected his father. Sal Avena told to take a contractual deal buyout with SP as his deacon; he received one payment; West Side said Fuck You to him thereafter. SP did nothing! That's not respect. Do you think Ray Cagno respected SP? RC was doing heavy work for decades with the Campisis and winds up having to kick up to a guy living in a mansion that never did wet work. Come On!


I dunno about “never” doing wet work. He’s the only person I can think of off the top of my head who ever got caught digging a grave.

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In the 1950s, yes. Don't know that story, frankly.

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Originally Posted by DetroitPartnership
In the 1950s, yes. Don't know that story, frankly.


It’s in the article I posted above. I never heard the story before either. I know what I know and try to stay away from stuff I don’t. And I don’t know much about the Colombos. But reading stuff on this forum is always interesting. I found it randomly and reading gossip about people I know is fun (usually).

On second thought I do know someone else who got caught digging a grave lol! I said to myself I wouldn’t really comment on anybody who’s alive... but this one is too good not to share. I knew a connected guy in the early 2000s who was more than a little wacky. He got caught digging a grave in Wolfe’s Pond Park. It was for his fucking dog! I don’t remember exactly how he got out of it but the bulls didn’t buy it at first. If I remember correctly I think he even had to have somebody bring the dead dog in or something. And I think it was in his freezer. Guy had some screws loose but his family was very connected.

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Originally Posted by DetroitPartnership
Brass Ring; really no street pull. Capo of what? 4 guys. Honestly, no one was consulting with Sal P on the streets of N.Y. - nor Newark for that matter. They talked to Tootie Lombardozzi and the Cagnos.


Not true! ... at all.

Sal was a VERY respected member. So much so, that he was selected to serve as the 'capo di decina' for the NJ based membership. The only reason why he didn't have more goodfellas under him was because there aren't that many Colombo guys in Jersey to begin with. But he actually also had a dew SI/Bklyn guys in his crew as well. Besides associates.

But you gotta remember one thing. He was 'unbelievably' wealthy. He really didn't need any of this baloney. His father must have left him $30-million dollars. And that besides what Sal himself generated with Roma Foods which was a huge (A HUGE), Italian foods wholesaler that supplied over 500-700 pizzerias and restaurants along the entire eastern seaboard. And thats besides so many parcels or land, tracts of hundreds of acres, buildings, income rental properties, etc, etc, etc, etc.

He was known and in constant touch with his in-laws in the Detroit mob. Had close contacts with the California crews, and was still in contact with Joe Bonanno and Grande Cheese Corp., of Wisonsin, Saputo Cheese of Canada, etc, etc.

When Little Vic Orena made the move against Carmine Persico to seize the borgata, Vic had actually reached out to Sal to garner his support, and for Sal to throw his considerable weight behind the Orena faction to try and win support from other families.

THAT is NOT the sign of a 'weak sister' so to speak!..... to the contrary. It shows Sal Profaci to be an influential mafioso.

But you also gotta remember that Sal was getting older, he had already served a 4-year bid. And was trying his best to be careful not to get pinched and wind up with life in prison like so many did in that late 1980s-1990s era.

Tutti Lombardino, Jimmy Randazzo, Gus Spatafora, and the Cagno brothers couldn't shine Sal's shoes.

Get real my friend!

Salvatore 'Sally Pro' Profaci got to ride off into the sunset (with his many millions). Died in bed with his shoes off. And set his blood family up tight for the next 10 generations!

In my book, thats powerful!


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R. Cagno doing heavy work with the Campisi's is a stretch. The Campisi's pretty much did anything they wanted and pretty much on their own. So much so the NY families wanted little to do with them, plus they were too violent wreckless for the NY families. Petey Black, Petey White were no joke.

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Originally Posted by majicrat
R. Cagno doing heavy work with the Campisi's is a stretch. The Campisi's pretty much did anything they wanted and pretty much on their own. So much so the NY families wanted little to do with them, plus they were too violent wreckless for the NY families. Petey Black, Petey White were no joke.


The cagno's were originally affiliated with Nana Campisi before they hooked up with the Colombo crew. I think Petey Black even later on tied up with the Colombo NJ crew.

And yes, the Campisi's were a dangerous, and unruly, bunch. You had to watch your back with them. Even goodfellas.

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Originally Posted by DetroitPartnership
Brass Ring; really no street pull. Capo of what? 4 guys. Honestly, no one was consulting with Sal P on the streets of N.Y. - nor Newark for that matter. They talked to Tootie Lombardozzi and the Cagnos.



Lombardino, Randazzo, AND Profaci, were all the sons of original members of the Family under Joe Profaci. VERY respected guys because of it. But they were not in the money league (or the intelligence league), of Jersey Sal Profaci. He was next level. His dad had taught him VERY well.

And I know (from personal knowledge), that most goodfellas respected him very much

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Cagno was part of that crew. He was tried for murder with them. Sorry, your history is off.

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Originally Posted by DetroitPartnership
Cagno was part of that crew. He was tried for murder with them. Sorry, your history is off.



LOL...My history is off?... With all due respect to YOU, listen up and learn!

As I stated the first time around. Sal Lombardino, Jimmy Randazzo, Sal J. Profaci, and Sal Profaci Jr., the SONS and nephews of Salvatore Lombardino Sr., Rosario Lombardino, Vincenzo Randazzo, and Joe Profaci and his brother Sal (original members of the borgata from the 1920s), were the first wave of sons of members based in NJ.

The Cagno brothers (Rocco and Ray), were part of the next, younger wave, brought in later. They were born in the early 1940s. And NOT part of the original crew. Also part of that later wave was Peter (Petey Black) Campisi.

Also part of the 'original' crew, as well as earlier NJ based members, included; John Misuraca, Artie Misuraca, Emanuele Cammarata, Paolo Lombardino, Salvatore Cerrito, Angelo Speciale, and a few other old timers.

THIS is the history of the NJ based Profaci/Colombo regime.... Period!

Write all the names down and remember them so you don't get confused again down the road ok? And so you can fact check me and see that what I say is 100% correct, not 99%

In fact, Johnny Misuraca was the capo there at one time, until he was later elevated by Joe Magliocco to serve in the hierarchy. At a later point in time Joe Yacovelli became a NJ based skipper as well. Although he mostly hung out Downtown NYC

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Originally Posted by southshorekid
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Interesting article it looks like Profaci, arraigned marriages for his daughters and nieces etc.

Seems that Profaci, was trying to make sure the family survived for future generations.

I think his plans were KIE-BOSHED when essentially Magliocco and Bonnano were shelved.

His named successor and whole Borgata were stripped away and handed to Colombo.

Anyone know anything about the size of Salvatore's crew in N.J. was it big one with any sort of power in the family?

The other son John, I believe he was legit I know he did a lot of building in Staten Island in the 90's and 2000's his wife owns a large and successful real estate company in Staten island as well.




Connie right? Yeah as far as I know they are legit. I think they still live out in Monroe but do a lot in SI. If I remember correctly I think the only real controversy was when they were involved in selling the White House on Todt Hill. But that was it.





Yes Connie Profaci Real Estate was one of the biggest in Staten Island not anymore
Very well respected in the business community

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Originally Posted by southshorekid
I don’t know much about the Profacis. But between Colavita olive oil, Roma foods, and the SI/Central Jersey real estate it seems like they knew how to print money. I was thinking about something my grandfather once told me about Sam the Plumber and googled and found that article. Not for nothing though, that was the sixties and they were a few steps ahead with the real estate. South Brooklyn Italians moved to SI in the 80s and 90s. SI Italians have been moving to Central Jersey from the 90s through today. If you live in Bensonhurst you obviously know all that. But it’s a trip reading some people posting on here thinking Bay Ridge still looks like Saturday Night Fever haha. The mob tourists better learn Mandarin if they ever plan on visiting South Brooklyn.



So true
So SAD

Bensonhurst like many of the borough's were like towns implanted from southern Italy.

We didn't know what we had
We let it go..

If the neighborhood still existed today as it did back then
The very last place on the earth that ANTIFA would try their shit would in our neighborhood.

Not because we were prejudice, because we cared, and we stuck together, and protected our own.

Watched out and over each other

Not like that today

Its all like Manhattan you could be on fire and no one would even piss on you to put it out.
Every one for themselves

So COLD

We don't even have pockets of resistance anymore just us hold outs

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Jimmy Randazzo had a connected father? Jimmy was from Newark I believe but lived in Atlantic Highlands. Can you tell me what you know about Jimmy Randazzo and how he and his father hooked up with the Colombo’s since they were from Newark?

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