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Re: Mob rat gene borello beaten badly in jail [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #1007224
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I think Persico was trying to bait them somehow or make some kind of point trying to be philosophical. It's hard not to call out a hypocritical government when they're putting you on the spot for your way of life. Anyway, like I always say and I'll say it again: someone rats = front pages someone doesn't rat = not publicized that's why he thinks 99% are rats. It's actually understandable, when someone rats they talk about it over and over until you can't even get it out of your mind.

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Im hoping its a gang member so he can get abused raped forced to suck underwear clean and popped face down

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Re: Mob rat gene borello beaten badly in jail [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #1007244
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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
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Pahahahh if this news is true then I couldn't be happier. If you listen to his podcast then you're a rat too



Come on bro every single person on here listens to the podcast. We have people on here that follow them on social media and are now reporting his supposed beating and rape like they’re a news channel. And the rat thing is complete bullshit. 99% of these guys are rats. If they don’t rat in court then they’re dry snitches who rat on the competition and that’s been proven over and over with people like Joe Watts ,Jr Gotti ,Carmine Lombardozzi, Sporting Goods,Romano,Harry Riccobene. The list goes on and on. Like anyone with a brain in theyre head actually believes the non sense of you can murder,maim and rob your enemy’s blind but telling on them to remove the competion is outta bounds or telling on them to make sure you don’t waste your own life in prison. Anyone that actually believes that is either a brainwashed old timer or is a child that hasn’t actually been involved. And just to clarify I’m not talking about ratting on friends and family that’s a diff story Even Gravano wouldn’t rat out his true friends which is why guys Like Louie Vallario and Fappiano etc got another 11 or 12 year run on the street after he flipped....


You sound like you're okay with ratting. That is frightening Lou. Let me tell you something my friend, there is nothing lower than a rat. NOTHING.

And how you can say '99% of these guys are rats'? The overwhelming majority of made guys are not rats. You are just saying things to cause a stir. Would you consider John Gotti Sr. to be a rat? How about Carmine Persico? He basically admitted to the existence of the mafia in open court.


So if someone were to hypothetically rape your hypothetical wife and daughter you would consider that person above a criminal who is telling on another criminal? Seriously now?

John Gotti and Carmine Persico are the exception and does anyone wonder if Carmine Persico knew Scarpa was a rat the entire time and ignored it cause of the money and work he did??

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Mob rat gene borello beaten badly in jail [Re: tonytheant] #1007246
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Originally Posted by tonytheant
Im hoping its a gang member so he can get abused raped forced to suck underwear clean and popped face down



Your 100% a fa***t. You literally hope that men rape other men. Get off the fa***t shit


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Mob rat gene borello beaten badly in jail [Re: Louiebynochi] #1007247
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
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Pahahahh if this news is true then I couldn't be happier. If you listen to his podcast then you're a rat too



Come on bro every single person on here listens to the podcast. We have people on here that follow them on social media and are now reporting his supposed beating and rape like they’re a news channel. And the rat thing is complete bullshit. 99% of these guys are rats. If they don’t rat in court then they’re dry snitches who rat on the competition and that’s been proven over and over with people like Joe Watts ,Jr Gotti ,Carmine Lombardozzi, Sporting Goods,Romano,Harry Riccobene. The list goes on and on. Like anyone with a brain in theyre head actually believes the non sense of you can murder,maim and rob your enemy’s blind but telling on them to remove the competion is outta bounds or telling on them to make sure you don’t waste your own life in prison. Anyone that actually believes that is either a brainwashed old timer or is a child that hasn’t actually been involved. And just to clarify I’m not talking about ratting on friends and family that’s a diff story Even Gravano wouldn’t rat out his true friends which is why guys Like Louie Vallario and Fappiano etc got another 11 or 12 year run on the street after he flipped....


You sound like you're okay with ratting. That is frightening Lou. Let me tell you something my friend, there is nothing lower than a rat. NOTHING.

And how you can say '99% of these guys are rats'? The overwhelming majority of made guys are not rats. You are just saying things to cause a stir. Would you consider John Gotti Sr. to be a rat? How about Carmine Persico? He basically admitted to the existence of the mafia in open court.


So if someone were to hypothetically rape your hypothetical wife and daughter you would consider that person above a criminal who is telling on another criminal? Seriously now?

John Gotti and Carmine Persico are the exception and does anyone wonder if Carmine Persico knew Scarpa was a rat the entire time and ignored it cause of the money and work he did??


Yes, I would consider a rat way worse than somebody who raped my wife and daughter. Hell, I would rather be a child molester than be a rat. And trust me, I hate pedophiles with a passion!

As far as Persico goes, he had zero idea about Greg. That bullshit story came from Larry Mazza, a lying rat!

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Originally Posted by DillyDolly
I think Persico was trying to bait them somehow or make some kind of point trying to be philosophical. It's hard not to call out a hypocritical government when they're putting you on the spot for your way of life. Anyway, like I always say and I'll say it again: someone rats = front pages someone doesn't rat = not publicized that's why he thinks 99% are rats. It's actually understandable, when someone rats they talk about it over and over until you can't even get it out of your mind.



Your misunderstanding...I’m not talk about cooperating in court, I’m talking about CI’s. There all over and in jailhouses. And all these guys tell on they’re enemy’s and competition....shit lucky Luciano was ratting out drug dealers....Joe Watts was ratting people out to avoid prison..Carmine Lombardozzi was ratting people out..sporting goods and Romano were ratting people out...Carmine Persico ratted out the exsistence of the mob in court because do uphold is oath and deny it would have guaranteed life in prison...You guys are 100% not street guys and 100% not around the life because if you were really were you would know the FBI in the secret files know EVERYTHING and know when guys are made immediately which tells me that the guys running these ceremonies and attending are ratting,kind of like people in Philly who haven’t done a day while everyone around them at a minimum has done years...


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Mob rat gene borello beaten badly in jail [Re: Louiebynochi] #1007250
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Carmine Persico ratted to avoid life when he got 100 years yeah fucking right. It hasn't been confirmed that Carmine Lombardozzi or Joe Watts ratted.

Re: Mob rat gene borello beaten badly in jail [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #1007251
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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
[quote=Louiebynochi][quote=ralphie_cifaretto

Yes, I would consider a rat way worse than somebody who raped my wife and daughter. Hell, I would rather be a child molester than be a rat. And trust me, I hate pedophiles with a passion!

As far as Persico goes, he had zero idea about Greg. That bullshit story came from Larry Mazza, a lying rat!



So who else here would like to be a pedophile like this guy and thinks that someone that tells on other criminals is lower than someone who would rape theyre wife and molest they’re daughter???

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Mob rat gene borello beaten badly in jail [Re: Louiebynochi] #1007252
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You're grasping at straws here, how did we get to raping and child molesting?

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Originally Posted by DillyDolly
Carmine Persico ratted to avoid life when he got 100 years yeah fucking right. It hasn't been confirmed that Carmine Lombardozzi or Joe Watts ratted.


Articles that were never retracted and Joe Watts never sued, that quoted the fbi,other law enforcement sources and sources in the Gambino family aren’t enough for you? Especially when it contained singular information that only Watts would know and then he got a sweet plea deal for the murder...

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Mob rat gene borello beaten badly in jail [Re: DillyDolly] #1007254
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Originally Posted by DillyDolly
Carmine Persico ratted to avoid life when he got 100 years yeah fucking right. It hasn't been confirmed that Carmine Lombardozzi or Joe Watts ratted.



So it’s not a violation of the oath that Carmine Persico took to admit the existence of this thing in a court of law..when Carmine Persico got his button in 1953 ,was he told it was ok to admit the existence of “our thing” in court if it would give you a better chance to win the trial??


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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Well, Joe Watts is still active and wasn't put on the shelf, whacked, or anything. If he's inactive now it's due to his old age.

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To be honest one of the rules was also to never plead guilty, to always take them to trial. So I guess everyone who does so that they can get back on the streets and in business is a rat? Perhaps they see the writing on the wall and are doing what's necessary to stay in existence. The Mafia at the end of the day will do anything to keep existing.

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[quote=DillyDolly]To be honest one of the rules was also to never plead guilty, to always take them to trial. So I guess everyone who does so that they can get back on the streets and in business is a rat? Perhaps they see the writing on the wall and are doing what's necessary to stay in existence. The Mafia at the end of the day will do anything to keep existing. [/quote

100% your absolutely right, individual members will do anything to keep existing out of prison including admitting the existence of the mob and ratting on other members;they’re enemy’s and the competition

And there’s a big difference between pleading guilty to a crime and admitting in court that the mob exists. Those 2 are not the same thing...

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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Oh well, the mob must've not considered Persico a rat, because the Colombos allowed him to direct a war and essentially destroy them from a prison cell. Since it's their life, I think their opinions top e11veryone else's.

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What you say Louie is COMPLETE hogwash! Period!

There have been many racket guys who have turned rat in recent decades (primarily since the late 1970s with the advent of the Rico laws). Its disgusting. And admittedly, there have ALWAYS been certain guys who ratted undercover (Lombardozzi, Scarpa, etc), dating back many decades to the 50s, 40s, and earlier. But they were a distinct rarity compared to the huge volume of wiseguys out there operating.

But today, (and ESPECIALLY back then, 1920s-thru 1970s era), the VAST majority of Italian hoodlums (and those associated with them), stood up. Fact!!

As far as the lowest form of slug?? Well, thats intricate. I'd say that a degenerate child molester is the lowest form of vile 'sub-human' on this planet. And 'RATS'?? Well, they are ranking damn near those child molesters.

Especially stool pigeons who gave up family members, dear friends, and others who entrusted them with their very lives. For me personally? Few others rank as low as a scumbag informant.

They are lower than the shit I scape off my shoes.

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I think the fact that:

1) Sr. Put a contract on Watts.
2) Jr. Tried to get him Jammed up
3) Jr. Was going to take him out
4) Sammy fingered him.
5) Gangland printed it.

What more do you need to conclude that Watts went bad.

Maybe he didnt fully rat however, gave them info on Sr. As a bargaining tool to get out from under the jail time.

He obviously didnt testify against anyone.

Thought he could throw the feds a bone.

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If it is a Rico Case and you plead guilty, you are admitting to the existence of the enterprise which is the crime family.

In some borgata's that was considered breaking a rule.

If you look at the West Side they killed that guy Lawrence Ricci, in the 90's because he wouldn't take a plea deal.

Which was a SIN, because he was later found not guilty at trial

Gotti Sr. on the other hand insisted that his guys fight every case like he did.

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Can you also imagine theoretically whacking a guy because he refused to go along with the feds and admitting the existence of the Mafia? I sure can. At the end of the day might is right, the bosses set the rules and change them to their liking. Just like they whacked a guy for not pleading guilty while Gotti would've whacked his guys for pleading guilty.

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Joe Watts might've been a rat, but they didn't need him for Gotti they had the tapes and Gravano and his own big mouth. I figure at the very least they would've shelved him.

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Hell, for all we know the Mafia turned Riina in so that they could repair their relationship with the State.

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Originally Posted by DillyDolly
Oh well, the mob must've not considered Persico a rat, because the Colombos allowed him to direct a war and essentially destroy them from a prison cell. Since it's their life, I think their opinions top e11veryone else's.



That’s not true most of the family considered him a rat, they just couldn’t win the war so they didn’t have a choice and had to follow Persico and his army of extended relatives....Vic Orena,Wild Bill and Joe Scopo all considered Persico a rat


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
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Okay, half his family, his ENEMIES, considered him a rat

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Family inter-fighting is so stupid, the Colombos still haven't recovered from that bullshit.

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That Persico incident and him admitting the existence of the mafia reminds me of a somehow similar episode during the maxi-trial in Italy in the 80s, when Giovanni Bontate indirectly admitted the existence of the mafia by saying that “they” had nothing to do with the murder of the boy Claudio Domino in 1986, and was whacked together with his wife after being moved to house arrest. Riina must have thought that by saying “WE had nothing to do with it”, Bontate indirectly acknowledged the fact that the defendants in that trial constituted a singular group/organization…

Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto

Yes, I would consider a rat way worse than somebody who raped my wife and daughter. Hell, I would rather be a child molester than be a rat.

You need psychological help. Seriously.

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Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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do crime for as long as you can avoid being caught be violent rape and pillage and when the chickens come home to roost rat everyone out and come home to a big bag like tekashi did.

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Its was inevitable that some sort of admission had to take place once Rico or before with some long sentences..... the Westside was taking them for years and they were getting there guys back on street and not snitching .... after the first recording of them talking about the family or making guys it was over .

It was different before they knew for sure ..... but that shit was out of the bag with Valachi or Riccobene .....law enforcement just wanted them to say it for headlines in order to justify all the overtime and some of those feds were getting 40 pensions in 8 years of mob work ..... they robbed the American people just like the mob did .


Biden is robbing us right now with this clean air bullshit ....you do know who makes 99.9 of lithium batteries solar panels and the gear that goes with it .... wait till you find out who the silent partners are .....just like all the new GREEN jobs !!!! Poof never even one job .....all the fucken same just new gangsters.

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Cackling like a banty Rooster.

I love this," "I just love this."
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borello is a wannabe smoke too he gets punked by blacks you can bet your last dollar

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Well I imagine so, blacks outnumber everyone there. You don't stand a chance unless they like you, and you're not a snitch.

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He will probably be on johnny and gene before you know it talking about how he beat the biggest one down and how they all respected him anyway and he ran the joint and that the cowards on the internet dont bother him but he mentions them frequently.

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