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Re: Whatya say we take a peek at the Shylock business? [Re: Louiebynochi] #1004242
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
To follow up on this are you gonna touch on more about Sally Burns who was a convicted child molester and big loan shark or Paul Castellano who was a huge loan shark, who sex trafficked children. Or Robert Dibenardo who was a big loan shark and sex trafficked and pimped out children for grown men to fuck?? What about Allie Boy Persico, he had his mistress murdered and chopped up because she might have known his location and told the feds, after he demanded all the money and jewelry back he had given her..An innocent young 30 year old girl, this man of honor who was over 40 when he started dating her and she was 16.....notice a pattern here? I think we all have a certain fascination for the power and mystique of the mob but once you really get into the research and go beyond the media hype, you realize these people especially the made members and higher ups were uneducated, completely ruthless and completely evil people who perpetuated an evil lifestyle.. and that they’re power wasn’t rooted in business smarts but was rooted in organization and most of all being completely devoid of any morals and committing violence including murder without a second thought.. the power was rooted in the ability to snap an arm without a second thought, the ability to baseball bat a 110 pound woman and not bat an eye, and most of all the ability to murder theyre sons, brothers and brother in laws without a second thought and then follow that up by lying to they’re own family about it without losing a wink of sleep or having remorse even for a second....

No question that everything you're mentioning is indicative of some of the more demented,twisted examples of Mob scumbags.
However, the original point of this thread is what some guys did to collect shylock loans.
None of what you mentioned had anything to do with that.

Re: Whatya say we take a peek at the Shylock business? [Re: NYMafia] #1004243
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No question that everything you're mentioning is indicative of some of the more demented,twisted examples of Mob scumbags.
However, the original point of this thread is what some guys did to collect shylock loans.
None of what you mentioned had anything to do with that.

Once again, Lou and I totally agree. Let's say I was familiar with a couple of fellows that were employed by the collection division of the Pittsburgh Mothers and Fathers Italian Association. I know for a fact that physical harm to either the person in default, let alone any family member, was hardly ever a card in the deck. If and when it needed to be played then it was on the bottom. Almost all in default had fear of violence and that was enough for them to pay up. Besides, they knew that sooner or later they'd be back for another loan mostly to pay off their gambling debts. A vicious cycle for sure :-(


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Re: Whatya say we take a peek at the Shylock business? [Re: Lou_Para] #1004245
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Originally Posted by Lou_Para
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
To follow up on this are you gonna touch on more about Sally Burns who was a convicted child molester and big loan shark or Paul Castellano who was a huge loan shark, who sex trafficked children. Or Robert Dibenardo who was a big loan shark and sex trafficked and pimped out children for grown men to fuck?? What about Allie Boy Persico, he had his mistress murdered and chopped up because she might have known his location and told the feds, after he demanded all the money and jewelry back he had given her..An innocent young 30 year old girl, this man of honor who was over 40 when he started dating her and she was 16.....notice a pattern here? I think we all have a certain fascination for the power and mystique of the mob but once you really get into the research and go beyond the media hype, you realize these people especially the made members and higher ups were uneducated, completely ruthless and completely evil people who perpetuated an evil lifestyle.. and that they’re power wasn’t rooted in business smarts but was rooted in organization and most of all being completely devoid of any morals and committing violence including murder without a second thought.. the power was rooted in the ability to snap an arm without a second thought, the ability to baseball bat a 110 pound woman and not bat an eye, and most of all the ability to murder theyre sons, brothers and brother in laws without a second thought and then follow that up by lying to they’re own family about it without losing a wink of sleep or having remorse even for a second....

No question that everything you're mentioning is indicative of some of the more demented,twisted examples of Mob scumbags.
However, the original point of this thread is what some guys did to collect shylock loans.
None of what you mentioned had anything to do with that.

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Correct LouPara. Without a doubt there are scumbags and low lives in the underworld. Lots of them. But there are also many individuals who are very far from that type of behavior, and cannot be described in the same breath. These are the many "general" racketeers and mob guys.

But by the same token, are there not scumbags and low lives in every field of endeavor of life? Of course there are! So to try and paint "all" those who break the law (organized crime related defendants) with the same wide brush is a far reach at the least and very self-serving. And not at all truly indicative of most fellas who fool around in the streets, whether they be shylocks, bookmakers, guys who run card and dice games, slot machines, or most other type activities.

Are there some degenerate wanton killers out there in gangland? Or guys who have broken every base "moral" and God laws with little compunction? Abso-fucking-lutely! Lol

But so have others. So called "pillars" of legitimate society. Be they policemen, FBI agents, prosecutors, politicians, doctors, lawyers, stock brokers, captains of major industries, etc, etc?..... and just plain regular folks like little ole you and me!

You bet your sweet asses there are!!
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I checked through various U.S. Attorney's offices for recent cases of such degeneracy. And I gotta tell ya that without even trying, in just the last 2 months alone searching 4-5 press release offices, I've clearly documented over a dozen cases of law enforcement, government officials, and doctors being arrested or indicted for child porn, rape, and various frauds.

If THAT doesn't drive the point home once and for all, to Louiebynochi and others, nothing ever will!

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Re: Whatya say we take a peek at the Shylock business? [Re: NYMafia] #1004246
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F.O.H, Pittsburgh Mothers and Fathers Italian Association ?. Gotta love it !!!

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