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OUTA-Full Version #191286
05/11/05 07:32 PM
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Hello all. I have heard a lot about the "full version" of Once Upon a Time in America, which I believe is 6 hours long. I love this movie, and I currently own the 2 disk special edition (about 4 hours long). I was wondering if anyone knew where/if I could find any longer version? Thanks.


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Re: OUTA-Full Version #191287
05/11/05 07:38 PM
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Sergio Leone shot around 10 hours of footage. He edited it down to about six hours he liked, and thought of releasing it in two parts. He changed his mind and shortened it to four hours. The asshole producers made him cut it even more into a linear mess. The phone rang once, characters weren't introduced the right way. Critics hated it. However Leone's four hour version is loved by most, although the version we have today is still not fully what Leone wanted.

Even at four hours long, the full cut of this film leaves about 45 minutes that Leone considered "essential" on the cutting room floor, including further explanation of the mob/labor relationship, DeNiro meeting Tuesday Weld's character in the 1968 sequences, and a good deal of footage featuring Darlanne Fluegel, who played DeNiro's girlfriend, "Eve".

The DVD four hour version out now is IMO, one of the ten best films ever.


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Re: OUTA-Full Version #191288
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Indeed, it is one of my favorites and one of the best movies ever made.

But all of the remenents of OUTA other then that of the currently released version are gone forever?


"The toe you stepped on yesterday may be attached to the ass you have to kiss today."
-Former Mayor of Providence, RI, Vincent "Buddy" Cianci
Re: OUTA-Full Version #191289
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After you finish watching OUATIA, you feel so full of emotion that you think you know those guys personally. What a movie. 10/10 for me. And I've only seen it once.


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Re: OUTA-Full Version #191290
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I've heard of Leone's intending six hour cut, and personally, I'd love for the studio to release it to the public one day, perhaps on one of the many anniversaries the film is sure to have.

In all honesty, I'd love to watch the entire 10 hours worth of footage, cut into the correct chronology that Sergio would have used if he decided to release a 10 hour version... Granted that 10 hours doesn't include several takes of the same scene. Some people complain of this film being too long... I'm the complete opposite. It's just one of those few films I can get lost in, and just wish it never ended -- a rare feeling, that I can't even say to be true about my absolute favorite films, like Fight Club or Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.


"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
Re: OUTA-Full Version #191291
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I didn't want the movie to end...I just wanted to see more!


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Re: OUTA-Full Version #191292
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I've seen Once Upon...America one time, and, in all honesty, it was the best four hours I ever spent watching a film. I can't fathom how someone could consider it too long, that it "drags" in certain parts. It was over too soon for me! I was transported into their world, and once the credits rolled, I was sad. I'm gonna have to sit down and watch it again, soon. The only problem I have with its length is I never have enough time to watch it. However, the length itself is no flaw.


"Growing up my dad was like 'You have a great last name, Galifianakis. Galifianakis...begins with a gal...and ends with a kiss...' I'm like that's great dad, can we get it changed to 'Galifianafuck' please?" -- Zach Galifianakis



Re: OUTA-Full Version #191293
05/12/05 02:53 PM
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It's an amazing film. The childhood actors were also well chosen. The final moments of the film from the flashback to the mack truck to the opium den is truly haunting.


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Re: OUTA-Full Version #191294
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Yes, its a wounderful movie. I hope they do put the hole thing out.


If you had any fucking heart at all you'd be out stealin'! Joe Pecsi
Turn that thing off! You should be out stealing! Lefty
You put up and shut up, you hear nothing you say nothing! Just like you did for Bugsy! -Noodles
Re: OUTA-Full Version #191295
05/12/05 03:03 PM
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I'm pretty sure that what we have now is the largest version out there. Some deleted scenes weren't finished or whatever. I might be wrong though. Several scenes were filmed but have no sound, like one where the kids rob a black trumpet player.


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Re: OUTA-Full Version #191296
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Definately one of my favorite gangster movies! Funny thing though is that most of the time when gangster movies come up in conversation or on TV talk shows, for some strange reason OUTA does not get mentioned!


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Re: OUTA-Full Version #191297
06/25/05 01:43 AM
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It's just because of the over-all under-rating of the film. I suspect the theatrical, two hour cut has something to do with this.


"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
Re: OUTA-Full Version #191298
06/26/05 02:54 PM
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Because Once... is more about the man, rather then the crime.

I don't think the intended six hours exists anymore, only a few fragments of video or stills without any audio.


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Re: OUTA-Full Version #191299
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Vercetti:
I don't think the intended six hours exists anymore, only a few fragments of video or stills without any audio.
That's what I've heard from several people. But hey, I'm content with the current four hour version. A six hour version sure would be nice, but it would also be a luxurious privilege. I can live without it, so long as I have the four hour version to remember the film by.


"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
Re: OUTA-Full Version #191300
06/27/05 06:05 PM
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There's 40-45 more minutes of the film NOT in today's cut that Leone considered "essential."

I would've loved to see it. Like his past films, this was butchered in theaters. It was cut in chronological order and no one understood it. I suggest any of the fans of this movie read this review.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19840101/REVIEWS/401010365/1023


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